Annoyed at not being a lesbian

[Howdyboob]

Yea of course I'm generalising to an extent.

But honestly I'm sure we all know that women are more competent at life in 90% of areas.

Im straight and my DH is handsome and wonderful etc but good lord all of the men in my life husband family friends etc are absolutely useless without their female counterparts instructing them how to survive.

DH has had to sort his shit out in the last year because I've been on a rampage but FFS do men not understand that their value has enormously decreased since women too work?

I'm about ready to batter about 5 men I personally know.

In the last few years I've started to lose all respect for men. Since my wonderful dad died I feel like all adult men are 15yo boys.

OMG I couldn’t disagree more!! The worst thing about having to have tradespeople do stuff is that they’re all men, with alllll the associated stupid smug ‘well I’m obviously right’ bullshit alongside the slapdash, corner cutting whack it in mentality. Times that by 100 as they generally know the next Bloke With Van will be exactly the same. We once got a woman plasterer in and omg she was fantastic - truly excellent but also with that care for DETAIL that they never have. Corners perfect. No mess, unlike A.N.Bloke who presumably ‘just doesn’t SEE it’ at home too.

I do our tiling as no way on earth would I trust a bloody bloke to have the eye to get things as I’d want them - did once, never again. And just dip into any of the builders threads on here… the day women take over this area too is the day we can all be blissfully appreciative of projects completed on time by people who respect your space and don’t try and intimidate you or fuck things up because Men.

So many mners could do worse than read 'Men are from mars, women are from venus'. I first read it years ago and look at both sexes on a totally different way as a result.

Then she should report them

Yeah sadly I kind of agree. Lots of men just seem to be perfectly happy letting their partners/wives doing everything. They have zero drive and just seem to be passengers in their own lives.

Having said that I have also encountered some truly great men who are absolutely on the ball, so, I guess it’s swings and roundabouts isn’t it.

Then women need to step up and take over those trades. If all male labour stopped then construction/waste treatment etc would grind to a halt and the country wouldn't function.

These MNers and their ‘lovely sons’ 😂😂

These MNers and their “all men are lazy” 😂😂

My other half is pretty good and you can see the look of satisfaction when he cracks the code for the household chores i.e. Did you see the way I hung the washing out? I congratulate him and he is pleased as Punch. The other day he put some loose eggs in the top of the fridge and they fell on my head when I opened the door. Half and hour to clean me and the kitchen floor up. I had to calm down because I don't shout but advised him that it would be easier in future to put the eggs at eye level to avoid this occurrence again.

You just have to look at the Relationships board on here to see that FAR TOO NANY MEN are like this.

Or the news. There have been at least six horrific cases of male violence this week. FAR TOO MANY MEN.

@Howdyboob

maybe try being a woman OP, you may surprise yourself …

I do believe this is the truth of many men. Fortunately my husband isn't one of them.

Could you try sex with a trans man?

First of all - this is a site for women generally - most women are in relationships with men. Most women that post will be posting on the relationship boards because they're having problems with said men. It's not representational of all relationships with men

Secondly, ok if we're talking statistics. A crude ststistic (take note of my word crude) "black men commit more crime"

We rightly go to great length to argue that should not mean black men are treated less favourably or with suspicion. We argue that black men should not all suffer because of these statistics. We know to treat them as individuals and without prejudice and bias. We don't treat all black men as criminals until proven otherwise...

But we can generalise all men because of Mumsnet and the news ? And treat them all as dangerous until proven otherwise?.......

And treat them all as dangerous until proven otherwise?

The sad truth is that women do have to do this to a certain extent. Men can seem decent initially, maybe for years in extreme cases, then turn into something terrible.

@Halloumiheaven - 🙄🙄🙄🙄

Don't be so daft. Over 80% of violent crimes is committed by men. Something like 97% of sexual crime is committed by men. So yes, I'm happy to 'generalise'. Based on statistics.

Love the eye roll. Another "wrong" opinion I guess. That's me told.

As you rightly say, 80% of violent crime committed by men. Do you think that means 80% of men commit violent crime then?

Isn't it! "These huge societal things that vast numbers of women experience cannot be true because my darling Benjamin is an absolute wonder".

I bet all the mums of the men doing fuck all also say they're a prince as well 😂

MY DH has always been great at sharing childcare housework etc even with high stress shift work, now retired we share everything out pretty fairly. Raised by capable single mother to be able to cook, shop etc. Am very grateful and respectfulof her as has made the biggest difference to mylife. DF left and v sexist. I see all sorts around me and terrible stuff on MN of course but agree with Talulalahalula that it’s in the years of having children that equality/fairness can shift from previously being more equal in work/home.

I am hopeful things are changing though now that there are more rights around parental leave. DD just had baby and DSIL is now on paternity leave while she returns to work. Both on slightly reduced hours so can share childcare but DD working more hours, plus will use nursery. They share household tasks but DSIL main cook. So it is possible but they both have strong values around equality respect and fairness and have thought out how to make it work for them.

Other DD has also chosen great partner and many of my friends have lovely DHs, but do see some in very sterotypically 1950s roles. Some it works for others unhappy. Wish we could accelerate change for both our DDs and DSs so they all get time with children and not all the pressure to earn or do drudgy jobs.

So, using your logic. Let's put the crude statistics at play , if most violent crime Is commited by black men, are you happy to generalise there too?

You've said 80% of violent crime is by men. We know that doesn't mean that 80% of men commit violent crime.

If most of these men are black - we all know that does not equal 'most black men commit crime '

So you can eye roll all you like- but your 'happy to generalise ' is telling.

gosh I have, I'd say overall in my experience the women have been far worse, especially as managers.

Plumbers - 99% men
Engineers - 95% men
Road builders - 96% men
Electricians - 96% men
Construction workers - 94% men
Refuse collectors - 95% men
Iron workers - 94% men
Coal miners - 96% men
Firefighters - 88% men
Military - 84% men

But yeah, men are useless. 🙄

If God forbid UK was invaded by an international army I wonder who would be sent to risk life and limb. Would the women who claim to be better than men at everything be volunteering themselves? Why not?

I don’t understand your point - well yes of course things would ‘grind to a halt’ because at the moment men mostly do them. If we humanely eliminated all the men then the women would do them, much better in 95% of situations, instead. And that would be great. Unfortunately for the ‘stepping up’ project, a significant proportion of women have one hand tied behind their back economically speaking, as they’re the ones also raising every single generation with little or no input from the men. Gosh! Yes another reason for us to seal them all inside an iron ball and fire them at the sun 🌞

Nobody is disputing that men can go out to work and do a decent job. They seem quite good at that, particularly in jobs which pay well, and at least some of those on your list are better paid than the caring roles which have similar percentages of female workers.
The discussion, as it started at least, was around domestic stuff and childcare and the expectations that this should fall to women.
Probably also worth pointing out (again) that for many centuries and decades, women were legally barred from certain jobs. Not only because they were seen as physically weaker but because of the perceived impact on ‘the home’ and childcare.

Um, and who do you think would be doing the invading?! 🤣 Big hint - the three letter word would start with m and end with n…

That is indeed the one thing that women DO seem to be much, MUCH worse at - mindless war and deathmongering and all that goes along with it. Guilty as charged, and yes absolutely if ONCE AGAIN a big group of Fucking Aggressive Men decided to invade, damn right we should use it as an excuse to get rid of a few of our own Happy To Also Do Wars penis people.