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Holiday & DD's friend is a no show

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unapprentice · 30/08/2024 16:53

I booked a little caravan holiday for me, DD9 & her bestie a couple of months ago. Her mum was very eager for her to come & the girls were really excited. Messaged a few days ago & she said how excited her DD was and thanked me profusely, and confirmed she'd drop her to our house before 4pm, and we'd leave about 4.

Haven't heard anything from the mum today - it says she's active on Facebook but my messages are unread. I've messaged & called her auntie too but no response.

My DD has autism/ adhd and she's going to be so heartbroken! Seems really mean if she is just blanking me. I don't know her well tbh - must admit I was a bit surprised she was up for me taking her (not sure I would be) but she was & it just seems so harsh to do this now. Not sure what to do, should I cut my losses and leave without her at 5pm? Its only an hour down the road so no big rush but seems unlikely she's coming now & my DDs just getting more and more stressed with the not knowing 😔😔

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5475878237NC · 31/08/2024 20:23

pizzaHeart · 31/08/2024 18:11

I would rather give her a benefit of doubt in these circumstances it’s better to be too kind than too cynical.

Edited

Same. There's nothing to lose by being polite and kind and assuming the best, but not making plans with her again unless she's the instigator.

Beautiful3 · 31/08/2024 20:34

Think I'd message back, sorry to hear that. Thinking of you all." I'd acknowledge her at school, but never invite her child to anything ever again.

Trumptonagain · 31/08/2024 20:43

Good to read you and your DD are having a nice time.

You'll just have to take the message at face value,

There's no real need to reply to her message as you've said you don't know her very well, just continue to behave as normal when school starts let your LO continue the friendship at school.

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Pupinskipops · 31/08/2024 21:07

unapprentice · 31/08/2024 17:36

Thanks everyone for your lovely comments!

I hear what people are saying & will learn from this for sure. I'm quite socially awkward (suspect I'm autistic as well) but in our old town, the school mums were super forthcoming & always suggesting playdates etc & as we'd known them since reception, the relationships just developed without me having to do much if that makes sense!

But where we've moved to, the parents aren't like that at all - nobody seems to have playdates or do much out of school, DD was the oldest at holiday club every day. But she really craves that interaction so I'm having to put myself out there which I find super uncomfortable.

So in my head I was just like well I wouldn't be so easygoing with DD but if the mum is then that's up to her, I know her DD will be safe with me & if she gets upset and wants to go home then I could get her home within the hour.

But I didn't anticipate this so have learnt a lesson for sure!!

DDs totally fine, she feels sorry for her friend because she's missing out on all the fun but that's it really - really proud of how she's dealt with it, she struggles with things not being how she'd imagined/ planned so I'm really surprised & impressed!!

I did brave the high ropes today and they were horrific lol!

Anyway, I got this reply from the mum... not sure tbh, she's usually an oversharer & unless somebody had been rushed to hospital or something I think I'd have taken the 30 seconds to message yesterday & say she couldn't come, even if I'd received bad news.

Butttt maybe it's sometning super awful, I guess I can't know for sure. Plus I was dreading the school run if she was still completely blanking me so at least it won't have to be super awkward - haven't replied yet but I think I'll just wish them well & be more wary in future.

You sound lovely... and so does your daughter. Both refreshingly level-headed! 😊

brightyellowflower · 31/08/2024 21:17

AntarcticOcean · 31/08/2024 18:42

Ugh, that reply made me even madder. She’s played it well because if you start questioning her now you’ll be the terrible, inconsiderate person when she’s going through SUCH TRAUMA. But she’s behaved like an absolute wanker and I would be fuming. You just have to let it go and think never again with this particular mum.

Yep. Definitely leave it. I had something similar once where a parent had left me in a terrible position - and it got totally twisted for me being the bad guy questioning her when she'd just had a death in the family! (not that the death actually happened it transpired) Anyway, within weeks I was frosted by the entire school mum clique on the playground. You will never win with these oddballs.

Glad you and your daughter went and are having a good time.

Marelli · 31/08/2024 21:21

I can see you've had lots of replies but I just felt compelled to reply...
My youngest DD, was diagnosed ASD age 3, she is now 18. She has much older siblings so she was like an only child, her siblings are diagnosed so it wasn't new to me, but my youngest had much higher needs & it had a far bigger impact on her day to day.
When I read your post I could feel it for you both because there has been so many times from such a young age that my DD had friends let her down, she put on such a brave face so many times, but I knew every time her heart was broken. It's still the same for her, there's never a week goes by where there's not at least one time, I'm holding her whilst she sobs & I lose count of the times she's tells me, that some "friend" has let her down, not turned up, ignoring messages, whilst she still puts on the brave face & says it's ok, I know they are just tired/working hard/feeling low.

It sounds like you've done brilliant & your DD is loving her holiday, I know the hard work that goes into trying to compensate for the let down, we so desperately don't want them to feel sad, but the whole time we are aware, we aren't that "friend" that they were so excited about.

I want to comment on "that message" from the Mum, the non descript "bad news" is an absolute classic bullcrap excuse. The added little sympathy line, to distract from her rudeness & she needs to make you feel guilty for feeling annoyed that she wasn't in touch -she doesn't know whether you was annoyed or not, but she she knows that most people would be, so she has to cover that angle. Then she needs you to feel sadness for them too, because then her ignoring you, is definitely excusable & it's so awful you aren't going to bring it up in front of her DD who could drop her in it.
That's not to say there hasn't been some bad news, because I expect there has been some kind of unpleasant news, at some period, because she will need to be able to answer any questions, if she is put on the spot, but it definitely wasn't just at that time & that definitely wasn't the reason for her not contacting you & why her daughter didn't go away with you. She has just chosen to make that her reason because she hasn't learnt the basic etiquette of saying to someone "I'm so sorry, I know I said x would go away with you, but, she doesn't feel like she can now/I don't feel it's the right thing" She made a conscious decision to ignore you, avoid you until it was to late & give herself time to think of the best way to lie about it.
A few reasons why I say it's bull..
*We have a natural tendancy, that when there is a genuine reason however sad/traumatic (unless it's something totally huge unexpected at that precise time, like, life ending/changing accident) our brains do this thing of "oh no, I'm going to let sheila down, I must let her know" we can be experiencing something tragic, out of our hands, yet we feel a guilt about letting someone else down, we feel we have to let them know.
*When a child is super excited about something, then we receive sad news & it might fill our head & we can forget things, you can guarantee our child won't forget what they were super excited about, they won't let us forget.
*Parental instinct, we never want to make our children feel sad. We shield them from certain things in life, we approach things in a way that will have the least negative emotional impact. When there is something we can't avoid telling our child that we know will make them sad, we will try to offer/find something positive at the same time, to soften/distract/ease the sadness. She ain't gonna give her DD no double whammy of sadness.

I could go on with a massive list of why I call bull, but I'm going to stop myself.

Well done Mum on being a wonderful Mum, you're daughter sounds amazing, she has her resilience, positivity & empathy from you & well done for being a decent human being...this other Mum, keep her at length, she's lost out!

GameOfJones · 31/08/2024 21:37

That message is absolute bollocks in my opinion, I'd eat my hat if it's genuine but there's really not a lot you can do other than reply "Sorry to hear that" and then quietly distance yourself.

mjf981 · 31/08/2024 21:38

The message is total BS. I wouldn’t bother replying. Just leave her hanging and try to avoid her in future.
It’s breathtakingly rude and inconsiderate.

Thursdaygirl · 31/08/2024 21:48

Even on the day my mum suddenly dropped dead I was able to get in touch with essential people (work / kids school and DC3 nursery as we were due in the next day for a settling in session)

Quite. Unless you’re in a coma or have been taken hostage, you can generally send a quick text message

Lovefromjuliaxo · 31/08/2024 21:49

Is there any way you could drive round to theirs and check everything is ok? I would be worried with no response.

GatherYePearls · 31/08/2024 21:55

Lovefromjuliaxo · 31/08/2024 21:49

Is there any way you could drive round to theirs and check everything is ok? I would be worried with no response.

No response to what?

angeldelite · 31/08/2024 22:04

Agapornis · 31/08/2024 18:13

Making memories 🙄🤢

Reply "Sorry to hear that" at most. I wouldn't even add 'hope you're all okay' because frankly I'd hope nothing positive for them after doing that to you.

Yes, I agree. ‘Sorry to hear that’ is just enough that she can’t say you didn’t commiserate but short enough to show that you’re on to her.

MrRobinsonsQuango · 31/08/2024 22:29

Thursdaygirl · 31/08/2024 21:48

Even on the day my mum suddenly dropped dead I was able to get in touch with essential people (work / kids school and DC3 nursery as we were due in the next day for a settling in session)

Quite. Unless you’re in a coma or have been taken hostage, you can generally send a quick text message

I know right. My dad dropped down dead when l was in my early 30’s. Magically l contacted work, family, friends etc.

I hate the whole making memories / be kind / family time time bullshit. Part of me dies inside when l hear them

I would be tempted to reply with a passive aggressive thumbs up 🤣

MrRobinsonsQuango · 31/08/2024 22:30

GatherYePearls · 31/08/2024 21:55

No response to what?

Being a rude twat l think

pictoosh · 31/08/2024 23:18

angeldelite · 31/08/2024 22:04

Yes, I agree. ‘Sorry to hear that’ is just enough that she can’t say you didn’t commiserate but short enough to show that you’re on to her.

Agreed.
"I'm sorry to hear that." is an acceptable response that offers nothing by way of investment.
Polite because you are. Short like the shrift she's getting.

Mumtobabyhavoc · 31/08/2024 23:32

I mean, OP hung around waiting for the child to be dropped off. Plans were made.
Send a mssg: Have to cancel. Family issue. Sorry.

EdithBond · 01/09/2024 02:16

I’d certainly reply. Something like: ‘Oh no, I’m so sorry to hear that. Let me know if you need anything’. I’d assume something awful’s happened with a message about bad news. You’d have to be v strange make it up as an excuse.

mjf981 · 01/09/2024 03:26

Oh I do like the suggestion of just sending a thumbs up emoji.
Do that!

ThePoshUns · 01/09/2024 04:17

What @pictoosh said above.
It's not her daughter's fault that she's flaky so I'd avoid saying anything more that would jeopardise that friendship.
I wouldn't offer any more trips/ sleepovers though.

Mermaidsarereal · 01/09/2024 04:25

Ah bless your daughter, this is isn't nice they could have told you if the little girl was feeling worried or scared about going, I'm sure you'd have understood! I've had to do this for my DD in the past but gave a week's notice.

Mummyoflittledragon · 01/09/2024 07:35

Dontbeme · 31/08/2024 19:47

With my cynical hat on:

You host all play dates
Your DD never gets invited to her best friends house to play
You take the DC on days out
The mother didn't bother to reply to any messages about a break you were taking (and paying in full presumably) her DC on

She's using you OP, and feels she can flake out on previously made (and paid for by you) plans with no explanation. You and your DC are convenient if nothing better comes up. I would be encouraging your DC to make more friends, keep this one friend for school hours only, and stop being the one doing all the running about. I hope you and DC enjoy your break.

Yes, I’ve been used by such people.

I’m really pleased your dd is having a good time.

TheFluffyTwo · 01/09/2024 08:05

EdithBond · 01/09/2024 02:16

I’d certainly reply. Something like: ‘Oh no, I’m so sorry to hear that. Let me know if you need anything’. I’d assume something awful’s happened with a message about bad news. You’d have to be v strange make it up as an excuse.

Bless your heart, my sweet summer child!

katepilar · 01/09/2024 08:34

I like the approach @Waterboatlass suggested I would acknowledge quite formally just to say 'sorry to hear you've had bad news'. And leave it there. Civil enough if she's genuine, plain enough to read as terse if she's not.

I too, OP, would have to keep it civil to be able to live with myself and at the school gate, so no message or a sarcastic one wouldnt do it for me. I would take some effort to stop thinking about the whole situation though.

Madamum18 · 01/09/2024 16:35

What reason was given? Sorry if I missed it in your posts

loropianalover · 01/09/2024 16:37

Madamum18 · 01/09/2024 16:35

What reason was given? Sorry if I missed it in your posts

Page 6 of the thread xx

They’re coping with bad news and making memories with family.