I thought it was a Mumsnet myth until today!

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Baby having its nappy changed in the middle of a cafe. 🤮 I didn't think it actually happened! This is the same cafe that also has signs in the toilets, to remind people that toilet roll goes in the toilet, not the bin. This is on a University campus of a well respected university!

I mean that's absolutely not true sadly. The litter strewn state of our streets and poor standards of public behaviour demonstrate that on a daily basis.
To the specific situation, I think it's largely as a PP said that when in the trenches of parenting small children people forget that other people aren't living the same life. I don't have kids. Nor am I a carer. So I don't come into contact with anyone else's poo and wee. Ever. So yes, I'm going to notice those suddenly appearing around me. Regardless of the age of the producer. And find it pretty gross. Although tbh a wet nappy changed in a pram etc wouldn't really bother me. I'd still rather not though in a place people are eating.

Not everyone is. Some of these people changing babies on tables will be doing it out of sheer laziness.

Yep. I assume they either get lots of families of international students visiting, or just lots of tourists, and some of them do what is normal for them which is to put the toilet paper in the bin.

A wet nappy in a bassinet I couldn’t get too worked up again. A wet nappy on the table or any soiled nappy not in the loo and I would politely point out the toilets to them.

I really hope you don't work in hospitality. Or Waitrose.

I think it's completely disgusting and not acceptable.
I don't want waste from a person (or animal) of any age around where I am eating.
But was told on a previous thread years ago that I'm totally unreasonable (having been near a table where a child of around 2 years old was having a very messy nappy changed, used wipes placed on chair) so obviously people have different standards.

Absolutely not a myth, I’ve seen it done. First time I saw it was in 80’s and a woman laid the baby on the table in a restaurant to change the nappy. I was walking past and nearly puked 🤮

Expecting Waitrose hygiene standards on a farm is a bit naive.

I wouldn't do it, but I don't think it's a hygiene issue.

Remnants of untreated human waste next to fruit which might be eaten on the go is absolutely a hygiene issue!

@HolyPeaches yes. She was. It was a pushchair not a bassinet.

It's outside. Any remnants from a nappy being changed near (not on) the fruit will be negligible next to the excrement for all the insects/birds/rodents etc.

They think that using the word "wet" (often combined with "only" or "just") will make it seem as innocuous as water. But just because people use "dirty" as a euphemism for "shit-filled" when talking about nappies doesn't mean that pissy nappies aren't dirty too. It's not a pool-soaked t-shirt. It's not just wet, it's full of urine. I prefer not to see, smell, or eat a meal somewhere with avoidable traces of anybody's urine, whether that's from a baby being changed in an eating area that doesn't have hand-washing facilities, or some grotty scrote who doesn't wash their hands after going to the loo.

Obviously, changing a baby in public somewhere other than a public toilet is sometimes unavoidable, emergencies happen, facilities are inadequate, etc., but that's not a free pass to choose to deal with bodily waste wherever you want all the time, regardless of social conventions and hygiene practices. It's piss. Go to the toilet.

No it won't. Nature breaks down the outside waste which shouldn't be on the fruit itself by then.

Someone putting their dirty hands on the fruit after changing a nappy and someone behind picks the fruit and eats a few can pick up stuff like helicobacter pylori or something else.

I don't get the defence of it personally.

What a stupid comment

How is a baby in a buggy having its nappy changed like an adult in a wheelchair having the incontinence pad changed 😂😬🫣😂

It's "rancid" and "gross" because it's where we go to deal with human waste, to keep it contained to one area, with facilities for cleaning yourself afterwards. What makes you exempt?

(Obvious disclaimer that if the facilities are actually so dirty as to be literally unusable, that's a different matter.)

Like I said, I wouldn't do it. I also wouldn't eat fruit fresh from the bush when I have no idea what birds have shit on it, what insects been living in it, what fertilisers or insecticides etc have been used.

It's a strange (and very MN) assumption to think that a farm is a place of hygiene.

Some people's standards are in the gutter according to this thread. Their houses must be absolutely rank.

No I don't think a farm is hygienic. Neither is the tube. But I don't want to see a woman changing a shitty nappy on either.

I was recently in a cafe and when I asked the employee behind the counter if they had any baby changing facilities he replied with "no, but that table over there is not being used. I don't mind if you want to lay your baby out and change them on it." I most definitely will not be eating there again...

With regards to the toilets, I would guess it's a very international place, being a university, and there are many countries where toilet paper does go in the bin because it would block ancient sewerage systems. So that's not odd. The nappy in the cafe - depends on how old the baby, and was it in its pram, and did they have an alternative space to go.

Non issue have done this loads over the years and seen my friends also do it

I have zero issues with a wet baby being changed in their bassinet. Nowhere near your food. I would have big issues with a soiled nappy though.

Summer bubbles I am with you. Waste products from babies are actually worse than adults, because they carry c diff in their gut flora. Of course it's not different to an elderly infirm person having an incontinence pad changed. What about leg bag catheters, ileostomies and colostomy. Agree, people are not trying their best. Whats with all the talk about "bathrooms" are most posters in America! It's not a bathroom or a restroom,it's a toilet.

I remember being at bookbug and it was this smug dad that decided to change the baby in midst of all the singing in the middle of the rug. The toilets were about 2 steps away from the rug . He was a year who asked me why I traveled so far to bookbug 5 miles isn't that far when you live in the middle of no where .

• always asking me , not a year

Just a thought, I'm part of an international FB for travelling with babies and people have said that in most of the rest of Europe they don't have changing tables and most people change nappies wherever they are in public, often in the pram.

Just wondered particularly if it's a uni, whether they were from the mainland and so it just seemed normal to them?

I personally nearly always do it in the bathroom although I've done the occasional one on the train floor or in the park as the toilets were closed...