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Toddlerteaplease · 29/08/2024 15:01

Baby having its nappy changed in the middle of a cafe. 🤮 I didn't think it actually happened! This is the same cafe that also has signs in the toilets, to remind people that toilet roll goes in the toilet, not the bin. This is on a University campus of a well respected university!

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ElaineMBenes · 29/08/2024 15:58

Although the sign may be for overseas students and visitors. In a fair chunk of the world tissue is not flushed, with it being binned instead. If that's the norm in your home country you may need reminding if studying over here.

Exactly what I was going to say. The 'well respected' university will have a large number of international students.

JustEatTheOneInTheBallPit · 29/08/2024 16:01

I have changed wet nappies in the pram before. I have also changed a poo nappy on the tarmac at the airport before. (We had to disembark the plane and immediately board a 45min shuttle bus.)

Once, in Italy, I was invited to use the top of a freezer behind the bar.

My toddler has a carry potty and, with the best will in the world, we don't always make it to a public toilet to bust it out. She uses it in the boot of the car often. Like, almost as often as she uses the potty at home, I think!

I'm doing my best and I won't beat myself up about these minor infractions.

I would never ever change a poo nappy on the table of any cafe or restaurant, regardless of the state of the changing facilities.

Blueblell · 29/08/2024 16:02

A wet nappy in pushchair - no problem sorry. You saw a baby’s bum - also no problem.

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Herewegoagainandagainandagain · 29/08/2024 16:02

It is manky and the cafe owner should have dealt with it. I wouldn't be back if they didn't and I would make sure they knew why both verbally and via reviews.

Anyone who thinks otherwise have very low standards of hygiene if they think dealing with baby nappies in a commercial premises where people eat and where there is nowhere to wash hands after even close to acceptable.

Squeezetheday · 29/08/2024 16:02

If it’s not a poo or being done on the table/chairs I don’t necessarily mind but I think for the privacy of the child it should be done in the loo. I wouldn’t be doing it personally!!!

My husband works for an airline, people change babies shitty nappies on the tray table frequently which I find fucking disgusting. Equally I find it grim when people are potty training and they plonk their kid on the potty in the middle of a place. Was recently in the library with DD and there were toddlers sat doing wees/poos on potties in the middle of the kids areas!!

Theunamedcat · 29/08/2024 16:02

Walked across the car park the last week of term to hear a little voice shouting hello heloooo! Ds and I look around thinking it was a school friend only to see a school child on a potty in the boot of the car waving and saying hello mum seemed really unconcerned and proceeded to help her off flashing everyone in the carpark

The carpark was right by the supermarket which has clean toilets space for a potty in the toilets and privacy!

Singleaftermarriage · 29/08/2024 16:02

My mum has changed every one of her grandchildren on her knee where ever she was. Never thought anything of it!

whyNotaNice · 29/08/2024 16:04

so ok, change nappies in the disabled/larger size toilet. Surely if someone uses tons of toilet paper, the loo will just be blocked. Does not make any sense. It is the cleaners job to empty the bins and that is the end of conversation. Worked in hotels and have seen blocked toilets galore and bins with not much toilet paper in them and this is why it happened.

DoloresHargreeves · 29/08/2024 16:05

BirthdayRainbow · 29/08/2024 15:50

What's the relevance of it being in a "well respected university!" ?

That bit made me chuckle. Are you at Aston University? Fine then, crack on you rancid pleb. But heaven forbid the lofty halls of Oxford's cafe be polluted by the sight of a little babys bottom.

Tara336 · 29/08/2024 16:05

On a holiday flight once and was shocked to see a woman lower the tray table and proceed to change her baby's dirty nappy on it. So nothing surprises me after that experience

Delphiniumandlupins · 29/08/2024 16:09

Depends what the toilets are like/is there a nice, clean, safe, spacious babychange area/did the mum have other children with her?

Lots of countries have different plumbing systems to the UK and think we are utterly gross for flushing toilet paper. In a university with international students it makes sense to remind them it's OK here.

housethatbuiltme · 29/08/2024 16:10

Toddlerteaplease · 29/08/2024 15:01

Baby having its nappy changed in the middle of a cafe. 🤮 I didn't think it actually happened! This is the same cafe that also has signs in the toilets, to remind people that toilet roll goes in the toilet, not the bin. This is on a University campus of a well respected university!

I met a woman who loudly and proudly held court at a party telling everyone how she changed her child's shitty nappy on the table of a restaurant in protest because she thought lying a baby on a table in a bathroom was unhygienic.

'You wouldn't lie down in a public bathroom would you? so why should a baby'.

She also expected people to be aghast that others had told her 'she was disgusting' because they where trying to eat and wanted congratulating on how 'brave' she was for 'telling them all off' (basically calling them names).

She genuinely seemed to think she was in the right and everyone would automatically agree... it was a very awkward silence after that and really killed the party mood.

Commonsense22 · 29/08/2024 16:10

TuVuoiFaLamericano · 29/08/2024 15:15

A pee nappy in a pushchair?

Wouldn't bother me.

Shitty nappy on the table / chair?

Minging.

Yes, a wet one in the pushchair would not bother me at all.

thebrollachan · 29/08/2024 16:11

Frogglingalong · 29/08/2024 15:38

I've changed wet nappies in the pushchair. Lots of places have very limited baby changing facilities, some cafes near me have a mat you are supposed to just put down on the floor of the loo. Others are absolutely filthy and involve wiping other children's piss up before you can change. My local train station has them in the disabled loo, which is locked by Radar key.

I usually try to go outside if Im going to do it, but in the corner of a half empty cafe doesn't seem totally unreasonable to me. Take dirty nappy home, bit of hand sanitiser. Fine.

Lots of things other people do repulse me more, especially pet owners swinging bags of dog crap as they walk past you, or expecting you to eat while their dog licks its anus next to you. And statistically a pretty large proportion of people don't ever wash their hands, even after having a dump.

We were all in nappies at one point, and will no doubt return to them in time.

things other people do repulse me more, especially pet owners swinging bags of dog crap as they walk past you

I don't understand your objection to this. Would you prefer they leave the dog crap on the ground, or immediately hang the bag up on the nearest tree? They're taking it to a bin, or home, presumably.

Fridgetapas · 29/08/2024 16:13

Meh couldn’t get worked up about this.

Changing a pooy nappy in cafe is gross.
Changing on a table is gross.
Whipping a little baby’s wet nappy off in its bassinet buggy and putting on a fresh would not bother me a bit and I’ve done it many a time.

She should have put a bit of anti bac on her hands after though - I always keep a little one in my changing bag.

WheresMySupportCat · 29/08/2024 16:14

Why DO people hand dog poo bags on trees? Or chuck them into the undergrowth? It would be better to push the poo off the path and let it biodegrade, surely.

It's so weird to me.

tribalmango · 29/08/2024 16:14

This is the same cafe that also has signs in the toilets, to remind people that toilet roll goes in the toilet, not the bin. This is on a University campus of a well respected university!

Some countries have sewers that cannot cope with toilet roll, so I imagine the sign is for people who are from those places. Your attempt to make the patrons look ignorant or dirty has failed.

Lupina12 · 29/08/2024 16:15

afuckinggoat · 29/08/2024 15:50

I had a horrible experience at an arboretum cafe once.

Was with my 6 month old and 4 year old and had arrived there early for an event straight from the school run. I had several bags, coats, sling, changes of clothes etc. I needed to change the baby's wet nappy but could NOT persuade my 4 year old to come to the loos. 4yo was starving and starting to lose it so I bought them a snack and a hot chocolate.

The cafe was empty (not a single other person) and I was at the back so I got down on the floor with my changing mat (covered in mud - it's an arboretum) and set about changing the wet nappy.

During this, baby is trying to roll/crawl away, and my 4 year old put salt in the hot chocolate, and was then crying about the drink now being too salty (quelle surprise).

A man, the owner's son, came over and scolded me. He said what I was doing was "disgusting" and that I should have used the loos. He then stood there silently watching while I continued to try and dress a crying, slithery, wriggly baby and console an overtired, distraught child.

In my sleep deprived state, I just couldn't handle it. I felt so judged and intimidated that I took my crying children home and forfeited going to the event.

I look back and recognise I should have tried harder to get both kids into the loo with all of our many belongings, but these seemingly simple tasks can just feel like insurmountable challenges when you've got a baby.

Maybe this woman is having a tough time and she made a quick call on a wet nappy because it didn't impact anyone and she needed to take the path of least resistance.

Aren't we judged harshly enough already? Can't we be a bit more compassionate to each other? Parenting is really fucking tough and being a woman who is constantly under the highest scrutiny makes that even tougher.

Yep, similar has happened to me

Go easy on mothers of small babies, people. It's fucking tough

Toddlerteaplease · 29/08/2024 16:15

@DoloresHargreeves no, not there! Grin

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silverjackal · 29/08/2024 16:16

Awful. Some people have no standards or deceny

thebrollachan · 29/08/2024 16:17

tribalmango · 29/08/2024 16:14

This is the same cafe that also has signs in the toilets, to remind people that toilet roll goes in the toilet, not the bin. This is on a University campus of a well respected university!

Some countries have sewers that cannot cope with toilet roll, so I imagine the sign is for people who are from those places. Your attempt to make the patrons look ignorant or dirty has failed.

Even some uk homes have septic tanks and are careful about what they flush.

MillshakePickle · 29/08/2024 16:18

Shamefully, I had to change my baby in the stroller today. He freaked out in the baby change room at a restaurant over lunch, tbf it was grim and tiny. I left with sobbing baby and tried to find the bigger public change room but it was closed and the other was across town. Went to a coffee shop to find that u had ask a staff member to open the changing rooms and was told ibhad wait 10 mins with a screaming baby because the manager had the key and was on break.

Outside in a pedestrian shopping area I found the quietest corner I could and had to whip off the wet nappy and get a new one on. Annoyingly, the nappy was barely wet and the baby was just fussing because he wanted to.

I've done anything like that before and never want to again. I knew I was being judged and judged myself as well.

Alondra · 29/08/2024 16:18

Toddlerteaplease · 29/08/2024 15:28

@Noseybookworm I couldn't miss it! I wasn't deliberately looking!

I don't get it. What didn't you miss? A baby's genitals? I don't see what's icky about it.

It was a quick nappy wet change in a pushchair. I would have done the same instead of going to the toilet. It takes 2 minutes.

whyNotaNice · 29/08/2024 16:19

WheresMySupportCat · 29/08/2024 15:07

Okay- I have told this story before and i am willingly telling it again.

I'm in England. My older Ds is now 14. When he was a newborn and I was still on mat leave I went to all the baby groups because basically I was insecure and thought you had to to be a proper engaged mother. (Did not bother with Ds2).

Anyway - there was a Queen Bee mother at the baby groups who was very keen to point out smugly just how much she was better at everything parenting to all of us plebs. (For example, DS1 has severe autism and developmental delay and did not talk until he was around 5 years old and she would tut at me and say 'you should try talking to him- that will help') .

Once we were all at our local breakfast diner and she plonked her DS onto the table and changed his shit filled nappy right there, in amongst our eggs and beans.

I judged hard. Real hard. And that was when I realised she was like the rest of us- doing her best but fucking it up occasionally.

This is why I never engaged with any women or groups like that. It is complete waste of time and then from being aupair you know that each family is totally unique and each child is totally unique and groups do not really have the magic power to teach you anything or change your child from a child with a need to a completely healthy child.....

TheCosyRain · 29/08/2024 16:19

Really surprised by some of the responses here. I’ve changed my baby in her pram before but only wet nappies, out of everyone’s way and only when no facilities. I’ve also changed a pooey nappy in the corner of a corridor in sainsburys before when their disabled toilet with baby change was out of order. What alternative was there? I wasn’t going to let her sit in it

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