Women are banned from talking in public

[Washingupdone]

Women through new laws issued by Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers, are now banned on speaking in public as a woman's voice is considered "intimate" and should not be heard. I feel so sad and helpless for their situation. At least I am educated and in this situation would try to limit birth control without my husband being aware of my actions, if I could.
Does anyone know how they can be helped?

@Washingupdone

Surely no one is surprised?

I assume you're being sarcastic! Or do you honestly think that anyone over the age of 3 is set in their ways and unable to be taught? Do you really think any little boy age three or over should be left with "hate preachers and rapists" without their mother's protection, as suggested by a PP. Would you be willing to say that in public?

USA are also seeking to destroy Title ix sex provisions by including gender: that'll either exclude or intimidate women pretty well, as well

Grand resets/year zeros never work: humans learn through experience,and history should be there to see what works and what doesn't.

Thank you for sharing this.

For anyone wishing to support, aseelapp.com are excellent and properly grassroots and also https://www.sola-afghanistan.org is a girls' boarding school that is always looking for donations and online tutors

For anyone wishing to support, aseelapp.com are excellent and properly grassroots and also https://www.sola-afghanistan.org is a girls' boarding school that is always looking for donations and online tutors

Sorry posted twice by mistake

"I really wish every last woman and female child could be flown out of Afghanistan and just leave the men to f**ck and fight each other until they all die out"

Disgusting. You'd leave the male children for them to take this out on.

For those defending Islam as a peaceful religion, of course it's not. No religion is. All religious texts were written by men with the purposes of largely controlling the reproduction of women. And they do it through fear. Every religious text is sufficiently long, complex and contradictory in order to allow differing interpretations. So whilst some countries have bought their interpretations up to date and apply them more liberally, there is plenty of room for others to interpret them in a highly restrictive way. Usually the latter is linked to poverty too. But without the Koran, the Taliban wouldn't have that justification to rely upon. Just as without the bible, the crusades may well not have occurred. And it's still the men who decide upon the interpretations and whether, for example, women can use birth control, work, show flesh, be preachers etc.

As an aside, I recently was on holiday by the pool and there were a number of muslim men sat around in their swim shorts. Their wives (who appeared to be otherwise westernised) had their heads covered and couldn't use the pool. Their daughters were swimming in t shirts and sarongs (kept afloat by armbands).
My question is: do these men consider themselves to be less open to temptation than others? They were fine to be in the presence of other women wearing swimsuits and bikinis. Yet, their young daughters (I would guess 7-9) had to dress demurely as the other fathers around the pool couldn't be trusted not to succumb to the temptation of an 8 year old in a swimsuit (whilst their own daughters swam in the pool). That was the inference.

I believe that head coverings (at least in some parts of the world) were originally used to protect from the heat and that women and children were dressed in black to visually stand out against the sand in the deserts so that they would not be caught in the crossfire between fighting factions. Religion is always a peculiar and evolving beast that gets reinterpreted to suit the men in society at the time.

@Scentedjasmin those men were being hypocrites. I'm guessing they weren't covering their own awrah (bits of their body they 'should' cover), and that they were happily enjoying the mixed sex setting where they could ogle other women while preventing their wives from enjoying the pool.

Yes, it's exactly the same.

Some excellent charities have been shared here already - thank you everyone who is helping!

Lesbians are not allowed to have any lesbian events any more.

Women are no different from men who say they are women.

This is a juggernaut and it is coming everyone's way. The number of men fully behind it will spur it on. Unfortunately it has been signed into law by actual women.

It really is so fucking infuriating, but if you start marching about it you will be jailed in the UK for being racist against Islam.

That's where we are now. Every time you protest femicide you are 'against' the religion not the men who are killing all the women and girls.

I don't agree with this kind of scenario and it's fairly common. The men are hypocrites but I'm assuming these westernised women have some choice in how they live their lives.

I have family in Muslim countries and the women are highly educated, work, travel and choose who to marry. Some are not married but that's quite unusual. They're mostly happy with their set up.

Not everyone wants to live with the western standards of "freedom" whatever that is. Are women truly free anywhere?
The issue is that the Afghani women don't appear to have any freedom at all or any basic human rights now.
What about access to healthcare? If there are no female doctors, are male doctors expected to perform intimate examinations if required or are the women neglected?

@AlisonDonut It's not anti-Islam to say women deserve to have our rights respected. There may be cultural differences of understanding on some elements, but ultimately all women need to have the right of choice and the right to women-only spaces - with those rights defined by women, not by men!

They are applying Islam by the textbook just like Daesh did, the average liberal muslim may see them as extreme(because ppl pick and choose what suits them) but they are actually following Islam the correct way, the way the prophet lived and the way sharia law is applied in Islamic courts. Women's voice in Islam is sinful because it can seduce a man who can't control himslef. Women in Islam should not wear shoes that make any sound(like heels) because again men can't help themselves. And ofcourse they shouldn't wear anything outlining their seductive figure, hands and eyes can also be considered seductive.

A woman cannot lead a prayer or do the call to the prayer in a mosque because men won't focus on the prayer because her voice is seductive. Women in Islam need a male guardian to study/work/marry/leave the house and that can even be her 10 year old child. The Prophet Mohammed went to the heavens and told his people that majority of hell dwellers are women because too many women are disobedient to their men and they gossiped, a warning for women to be obedient if they want to get to heaven. Even in the afterlife women end up with the same husband they had on earth, no choice, but the men get 72 virgins who renew their virginity each night.

Comparing The plight of women in Afghanistan to women in Australia is definitely not the same.

Fuck me. Wtaf.

This is why everyone should be behind Israel....they cannot let Hamas be in control any longer, women's rights will improve greatly when they are defeated. Same with Hezbollah and the Islamic republic. Iran used to be a really modern country until 1979, women wore swimsuits and went to the beach, now they're being hanged for not wearing their hijab's " properly". These extreme Islamists must be stopped and equal rights given to all the women living in these countries.

That’s so sad. I’m currently watching the first series of Our Girl on iPlayer which is set in Afghanistan and was thinking about how awful these men are.

But no I don’t support what Israel are doing. Whether it’s the IDF, they’re extremist leader BN, or the illegal settlers. It’s all abysmal.

I don’t even know what the current death toll of children, women and men is now in Palestine but it’s far too high. Really horrific scenes, that will give birth to the kind of extremism we’ve never seen before.

It does

Of course they're not.

The point was that across the globe women's rights are being rolled back and it should make women, who still have the right to make their voices heard, sit up and take notice.

Why would anyone in their right mind get behind a state that's indiscriminately killing women and kids?