Women are banned from talking in public

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Women through new laws issued by Afghanistan’s Taliban rulers, are now banned on speaking in public as a woman's voice is considered "intimate" and should not be heard. I feel so sad and helpless for their situation. At least I am educated and in this situation would try to limit birth control without my husband being aware of my actions, if I could.
Does anyone know how they can be helped?

Western progressive liberal democracies aren't just a matter of luck, they came about through centuries of struggle and protest and strife. People suffered and fought to gain rights and a decent standard of living. It's not something to be complacent about, as countries such as Iran and Afghanistan show that regression is always possible.

There are brave people in Afghanistan taking on the Taliban. If change is going to happen it needs to come from within these countries. It's tricky because uprisings against a repressive regime run the risk of ushering in something worse (see Syria and ISIS). The problem now is, with the ease of mass migration, the men of fighting age can just leave and there's not enough strength to fight these regimes.

I find some of the posts and general thinking concerning as people seem to underestimate, or even denigrate what is to be valued.

It does make you admire more those Ukrainians who have stayed and fought for their freedom or the likes of the French who joined the Freedom French in WW2 or the Poles who joined brigades to fight to get their country back (and who we betrayed terribly). Those people didn't just escape to safety and look after themselves, they fought back.

No but Afghan men can fight from the safety of the west , raise awareness & pile the pressure on the Taliban.
Protests, petitions, blogs, meeting mps.. Use every interpretor & translator at their disposal to fight on behalf of every woman left behind in Afghanistan.

Of course, that should read 'Free French.'

Bloody autocorrect.

Yep & the Ukranian asylum seekers are so concerned & upset with what is happening at home. Look at all the demonstrations they have organised, the appeals, the sheer anguish & panic to reunite with their loved ones. They have done so much to raise awareness & do their bit to try & stop the terror being unleashed in their country..

https://x.com/lnmackenzie1/status/1828449361493156086

This is a very important tweet with accompanying info. The comments are also very hard hitting.

I would like it if all the men who left wanted to, and felt able to, advocate for the rights of Afghan women.

What concerns me is that in this thread, it is being suggested by some that Afghan men in this country must do this, and that if they don’t we should view them as villains of some sort.

Is this the solution?? The women in Afghanistan sit around waiting for the men who left the country to rescue them? Do you not see any holes in this idea!

Yes, be angry that many of these men most likely don’t care enough, like many men don’t care about women’s rights, but no, don’t expect them to protest about it, that is silly.

I’m sure the women of Afghanistan have better ideas for their uprising than this. That must be why they want them to shut up.

Not rescue them as that is impossible but advocate & raise awareness on their behalf seeing as Afghan women can no longer speak in public.. that is if they are lucky enough to get a male chaperone so they can leave their home in the first place.
Look at everything the Ukranian asylum seekers are doing accross Europe to raise awareness about the invasion of their country, men are just as vocal as women. Look at all the Ukranian flags, marches, protests organised by vocal Ukranian MEN & women.

Why can't we demand Afghan men in Europe step up & play their part now they are safe in the west?

I think it’s quite important to not judge anyone fleeing a war zone. Who knows what choices we would make. And as for the petitions and blogs and msps- that would literally make no difference. These would all be entirely irrelevant to any of the internal or external structures that support the Taliban. That’s the tragedy. The situation is appalling and we, and most other critical voices, are an irrelevance.

But surely it's better than doing nothing?
If Afghan men in Europe actually start making noise & create their own group demanding rights, education & emancipation for women it will give much more weight to current organisations who are advocating on Afghan women's behalf.
Yes they are fleeing a warzone but the vulnerable are left behind. Look at the about of awareness the Ukranians have created in comparison.

I’m sure the women of Afghanistan have better ideas for their uprising than this. That must be why they want them to shut up.

@PeasfullPerson you make a very good point here🙏

It's possible for the Ukrainians to go on marches as their families back home won't be targeted back home for them doing so.

It's much harder for the Afghans as they will be targeted and could come home to find their entire extended family victimised or executed.

Gosh the hate for muslims is quite apparent. This thread was about how afganistan is suppressing women. Afghanistan is not a proper muslim statr no matter how much theh claim to be. They are a tribal country which have a strong emphasis on their own culture. Their practices are non-islamic and they are a threat to the true islamic teachings. They do not represent us Muslims. They are using religion because most people in that region rely on clerics for islamic teachings and do not study islam properly themselves. It’s easy to control an ignorant population using the name of religion. I have met quite a few people from that region. Some don’t even know how to read quran let alone understand the meaning and context of revelation. So stop blaming the religion . Blame the oppressors who are twisting the religion