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Update on "riots" tonight from local news sites

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fernsandlilies · 07/08/2024 20:02

Brighton - Less than 10 anti-immigration 'protesters' and about 1,500 counter-protesters with more arriving all the time. Jazz band playing. No violence observed or reported. A couple of buses had to stop for a few minutes to get through the crowd.

Hastings likewise - a handful of anti-immigrationists, and hundreds of counter protesters, chanting "say it loud, say it clear, refugees are welcome here".

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Switcher · 07/08/2024 23:17

@Comedycook it's like everyone on this thread has forgotten the last six months. Or indeed the recent fucking weird "free Palestine" mob showing up at fiddler on the roof. Or the "antifa" people saying they want no Zionists in Finchley. Or indeed the many hundreds of people targeting Jews and Jewish businesses in this country and holding them responsible for Israeli policies.

AhBiscuits · 07/08/2024 23:17

No anti immigration protests to be seen in Bristol. A large peaceful gathering of people showed up to protect the immigration centre from an attack which never came.

StoneofDestiny · 07/08/2024 23:17

I just have no idea why there were free Palestine placards at some of them

maybe because the women, children and men of Palestine are being oppressed and killed by a right wing Israeli government?

VanGoghsDog · 07/08/2024 23:17

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 22:42

Oh hang on. British people entering another country presumably do so legally, so there’s a record they’ve entered the country they go to? Just a thought…

Of course British people commit crimes but if they’re born here they are usually registered . You know- they have a birth certificate, National insurance number, a record they exist?…

This is quite different from someone who enters the UK without any record of them entering here or the UK authorities knowing they are hear.

Im talking about unprocessed people who are hear that the authorities don’t know about.

"presumably enters legally" - like the criminals who change their names and emigrate to the Costa Del Sol. Or is that (white) immigration OK? I wonder how the Spanish feel about it?

pinkstripeycat · 07/08/2024 23:18

ssd · 07/08/2024 20:17

The slaughter happening right now in Gaza is still uppermost in people's minds, whether you like it or not.

No it’s really not. People are more concerned with what’s happening in our own country

Blibbleflibble · 07/08/2024 23:18

Comedycook · 07/08/2024 23:06

if the far right were targetting synagogues then the anti-fascist Left would be defending those

I very much doubt that

I think you'll find like with the battle for Cable Street the Left always have the back of the oppressed and continue to do so. Facism will never be tolerated. Right now it is Muslims who are under attack and being targetted, do you not agree, so people are targetting their defence of them. Defending Muslims surely cannot be interpretted as anti-semitism?

StoneofDestiny · 07/08/2024 23:19

Who would want these people in their country?

Update on "riots"  tonight from local news sites
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Update on "riots"  tonight from local news sites
HarrietPierce · 07/08/2024 23:19

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Inlaw · 07/08/2024 23:22

mommatoone · 07/08/2024 23:08

Pulled a blinder? What do you mean by that?.
I think if the government have created this list they are even more stupid than I thought... or were they just trying to prove a point.

Im confused. What do you mean? Tonight’s gone pretty well no?

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2024 23:23

But the list at the weekend which afaik was 'genuine' also contained places where 'protests' pretty clearly would be likely to be matched or outnumbered by counter protesters.
So I think it's more likely miscalculation by people trying to stir up trouble in Britain who don't understand the country.

Humdingerydoo · 07/08/2024 23:24

Blibbleflibble · 07/08/2024 23:18

I think you'll find like with the battle for Cable Street the Left always have the back of the oppressed and continue to do so. Facism will never be tolerated. Right now it is Muslims who are under attack and being targetted, do you not agree, so people are targetting their defence of them. Defending Muslims surely cannot be interpretted as anti-semitism?

You seem to be missing the fact that a lot of Jewish people on this thread are pointing out that we are also under attack, and have been for a very long time.

Literally no one is saying Muslims shouldn't be protected or that it constitutes antisemitism 🙄 We're just wondering why no one ever bothers standing up for us and protecting us as well.

Mmmmminteresting · 07/08/2024 23:25

Echobelly · 07/08/2024 21:45

We do complain about those things but we know the problem is not immigration. The NHS would be in an even worse state without all the immigrant healthcare professionals and the other problems are rampant capitalism and the underfunding of vital services. They're the fault of a tiny % of rich and generally white people hoarding all the wealth and getting away with it by using the media they own to tell everyone 'Look it's the immigrants!' and loads of people are still falling for it.

Immigrant healthcare professionals do not come over in dinghies, they apply for work permits and are welcomed in with open arms. Any western country would accept doctors or dentists. Also, if refugees are fleeing their homelands to save their lives, I think they are pretty safe in France. No need to risk their lives further by boarding a rubber boat and sailing across the channel.

Saschka · 07/08/2024 23:25

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2024 20:19

Does anyone else think that whoever came up with the idea for an 'anti immigration protest' (or whatever they're calling it) in Brighton must know sod all about Britain and its culture?

Well they certainly don’t know much about Brighton! Of all the places in the world where that would go down like a bucket of cold sick, Brighton has to be near the top.

PickAChew · 07/08/2024 23:25

Zebedee999 · 07/08/2024 21:39

No doubt these "pro immigration protesters" are the same ones that complain about expensive houses/rent, overstretched NHS/schools etc.

And no doubt some of the anti immigration protesters complain that they can't get a hospital appointment due to lack of NHS staff or that their bus doesn't turn up due to lack of drivers.

mumedu · 07/08/2024 23:30

StoneofDestiny · 07/08/2024 23:02

You've obviously got some issues Comedycook. We are all celebrating outnumbering and out shouting the Fascists that have polluted our streets, and defeating them at the ballot box. The Tories and Reform became indistinguishable at the last election. They were demolished legally.

Not sure what your beef is about - were you on the anti Fascist march?

I wouldn't be surprised.

Paul2023 · 07/08/2024 23:30

VanGoghsDog · 07/08/2024 23:17

"presumably enters legally" - like the criminals who change their names and emigrate to the Costa Del Sol. Or is that (white) immigration OK? I wonder how the Spanish feel about it?

That’s not easy to do anymore. It’s not the 1980s. We have digital passports and face recognition now. This is what you saw on Essex gangsters films set in days gone by

EasterIssland · 07/08/2024 23:30

Mmmmminteresting · 07/08/2024 23:25

Immigrant healthcare professionals do not come over in dinghies, they apply for work permits and are welcomed in with open arms. Any western country would accept doctors or dentists. Also, if refugees are fleeing their homelands to save their lives, I think they are pretty safe in France. No need to risk their lives further by boarding a rubber boat and sailing across the channel.

But don’t do they take spaces on the nhs ? And add to the housing problem because they all need a house ? I thought that’s what many are accusing immigrants off (I’m not saying yourself but far right) ; they steal our jobs , and create the housing crisis.

the truth is that probably those that are illegal won’t be going to the doctor much as they don’t want to be tracked so when they’re ill they stay at home that are sharing with many more in the same condition as them . Unlike myself who came to this country in a plane and when I’m ill I might go to the doctor (not always) and have a house for myself and my husband.

StoneofDestiny · 07/08/2024 23:31

Immigrant healthcare professionals do not come over in dinghies, they apply for work permits and are welcomed in with open arms. Any western country would accept doctors or dentists

Behave!
We actually left interpreters and professionals who risked their lives to help our forces in Afghanistan over there! They have no visas and are terrified in Afghanistan - they are still fighting for us to honour our promise to them and their families.
As for our immigrant healthcare professionals being welcomed with open arms - you need to read different newspapers. Besides these rioting thugs are not asking if the people they are attacking worked for the NHS before they brick them!

mommatoone · 07/08/2024 23:32

Inlaw · 07/08/2024 23:22

Im confused. What do you mean? Tonight’s gone pretty well no?

Pretty well in terms of 'far right' protesters not showing up?.
Or pretty well -
In terms of people frightened of leaving their homes, businesses shutting early. And premises being boarded up 'just in case'. The streets round here were empty.

mellowfell · 07/08/2024 23:33

Well done everyone. This all seems a bit hazy like a distraction from something. I have my tin foil hat on though...

HeddaGarbled · 07/08/2024 23:33

Bicker away, bickerers - I think it’s been bloody marvellous this evening.

hamstersarse · 07/08/2024 23:34

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You'd think they would be flying British flags, no?😬

PeppercornMill · 07/08/2024 23:35

ErrolTheDragon · 07/08/2024 23:23

But the list at the weekend which afaik was 'genuine' also contained places where 'protests' pretty clearly would be likely to be matched or outnumbered by counter protesters.
So I think it's more likely miscalculation by people trying to stir up trouble in Britain who don't understand the country.

Or it was done by an anti-racism group knowing full-well what areas would see a large counter-protest.

This feels a lot like when the BBC reported on a non-existent petrol shortage, and then the whole country went mental and actually caused a real shortage.

I didn't hear much scepticism over the validity of this list, and no verification of whether it was fake news or not.

I'm glad that we haven't had any more violence or destruction, but locally a lot of businesses have lost money from shutting early, boarding up their premises and having events cancelled.

Blibbleflibble · 07/08/2024 23:35

Humdingerydoo · 07/08/2024 23:24

You seem to be missing the fact that a lot of Jewish people on this thread are pointing out that we are also under attack, and have been for a very long time.

Literally no one is saying Muslims shouldn't be protected or that it constitutes antisemitism 🙄 We're just wondering why no one ever bothers standing up for us and protecting us as well.

Of course Jewish people should be defended if they are being attacked. But people waving Palestinian flags aren't attacking Jewish people and the neo Nazis saluting in the street are at present attacking Muslim people and targetting mosques so that's why Muslims are getting the visible support.

StoneofDestiny · 07/08/2024 23:35

Yes - indeed - good night. We will hopefully live (to not have to) fight another day