Farage inciting division, thread #2

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Can I ask you who in your opinion started the rioting and other disorder we've seen over the last week?

Because IMHO, it wasn't Muslims. Interested to know what you think.

My quality of life is fine thanks as I am a middle class professional. Other people not so much. And probably not my children
But I can't be arsed anymore with mumsnet politics. It is a total echo chamber and anything against the guardianista narrative is deleted. Totally futile and pointless. Don't worry I won't hit my arse on the way out.

It is a total echo chamber and anything against the guardianista narrative is deleted

That is bollocks. MNHQ under-delete if anything. You are just pissed off your earlier post was zapped.

https://news.sky.com/story/uk-riots-latest-far-right-southport-live-13186819

Looks like it's going to be a long week..... 🙄

There is a part of me that thinks I've wandered on to a slightly more articulate version of the Stormfront site the last few days. No offence to MNHQ itself because I think they're doing their best, but some of the utter crap.

Actually, this is more dangerous, because unlike far Right sites, it is a diverse collection of mainly women, from all sorts of backgrounds. Some posts (the numerous deletions demonstrate it) are not sharing an opinion but disseminating hate and (again unlike Stormfront) they are hiding behind a semblance of normality and "free speech".

Those of us who see things very differently aren't going to give in and go away, you know.

I read that a man was arrested holding a machete in Southport shortly before it all kicked off.
Although I’m sure some there would have kicked off anyway.

So, I don’t know what kicked it off, I wasn’t there.

But what I can see is that now two violent deranged groups of men causing chaos, stoking fear, both groups attacking randoms.

But one group is being vilified (rightly, I don’t believe in riots) and the other group has people lining up to make excuses and worst of all, pretending they’re not doing it.

What the far right groups are doing is terrible, but people seem to think gangs wielding machetes is not as bad because ‘they didn’t start it’

Its pathetic

No we are not, but fuck me it is draining and depressing.

@GoldThumb so how many non whites have been arrested in Sunderland, Hartlepool, Hull, Liverpool, Rotherham etc? Or are you saying the police just havent caught any cos of this 2 tier system?!

agreed. i cannot not call out.

You mean the white guy with a flick knife? I believe that his name was Jordan Davies. There was no machete wielding Muslim.

I read that a man was arrested holding a machete in Southport shortly before it all kicked off

It was a flick knife.

You have just totally given yourself away, by repeating the lie that was pushed by far right agitators about that incident.

I didn’t say it was a machete wielding Muslim?!?

I was giving that poster the benefit of the doubt up until now.

Where did the machete come from then and Muslim is not a reach in the context of your other posts. Apologies if you actually meant a machete wielding neo Nazi rioter.

Don't bother. I have your number now.

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Don't know if they are still there, but his tweets were inviting people outside Southport to come and join the rioters

He''s probably on remand somewhere for inciting riot

Given myself away? I said I’m sure it would have kicked off anyway.

It’s interesteing how many on here who will ‘always call it out’ are not at all interested in hoardes of armed men roaming the streets.
Nothing to see here

I'm really interested. Have always opposed the far Right in whatever form they've taken throughout my reasonable long life.

They started this, they are orchestrating this and don't think many -hopefully most- of us are daft enough not to see that clearly.

I really don’t care.
You won’t change your mind and I won’t either.

I won’t be told something is not happening, when it is. Both far right groups and Muslim groups are causing chaos.

But you want to dismiss one group, that’s your prerogative

Let me rephrase it. The far right started it.

Muslim groups have enthusiastically joined in.

There are now two groups of maniacs roaming the streets.

Which was my point.

After one poster said it was lies that Muslim men were there.

No one wants to sit and claim they’ve ’got the number’ of that person, no?

Honestly, I never thought I’d see mumsnet posters arguing the toss of who started it when men are brazen enough to wield weapons live on the news

And @GoldThumb I'll tell you what kicked it off in Southport. A concerted action by the far Right that has additionally attracted every random yob who doesn't have to go too far who fancies a bit of looting. An action designed to spread hatred and fear through our communities and create discord.

It is foul and as a white English woman, they are not doing this in my name.

I tried to engage honestly with you

I wish I hadn't bothered. Feel a bit sick, tbh.

They are not doing it in my name either.

I can assure you you will never find me at any of these rallies.

But I will also not let people sit at pretend it’s a one way street, because there are literally armed men roaming the streets.

After one poster said it was lies that Muslim men were there.

So some Muslim men were at one of the protests? As I say, watch back the hours of citizen journalism and its white men bullying the police. Thats not to say that Muslim gangs dont exist elsewhere.