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Farage inciting division, thread #2

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LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 15:30

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Efacsen · 05/08/2024 18:40

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:39

It wasn't a MET police officer and his identity was withheld for that very reason.

Sounds even more dubious then

Eldrick47s · 05/08/2024 18:42

Legitimate and peaceful protesting is part of being a free society; there wasn't any legitimate and peaceful protesting. These riots were organised by the far right who were waiting for the exact moment a high profile incident like Stockport occurred (even if it had nothing to do with Islam), and in amongst the fascists were a pile of easily led scallies.

Racist, Islamophobic meatheads in Tommy Yaxley-Lennon and co. of the "English" Defence League don't know much about English history. Surely to be a member of such a group you have to have some knowledge of the English?

I suspect most of them cannot read, so perhaps a prison officer can read this to them in due course:

— Voltaire in Letters on the English in 1733:

"Take a view of the Royal Exchange in London, a place more venerable than many courts of justice, where the representatives of all nations meet for the benefit of mankind. There the Jew, the Mahometan [Muslim], and the Christian transact together, as though they all professed the same religion, and give the name of infidel to none but bankrupts. There the Presbyterian confides in the Anabaptist, and the Churchman depends on the Quaker’s word. At the breaking up of this pacific and free assembly, some withdraw to the synagogue, and others to take a glass. This man goes and is baptized in a great tub, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost: that man has his son’s foreskin cut off, whilst a set of Hebrew words (quite unintelligible to him) are mumbled over his child. Others retire to their churches, and there wait for the inspiration of heaven with their hats on, and all are satisfied.

If one religion only were allowed in England, the Government would very possibly become arbitrary; if there were but two, the people would cut one another’s throats; but as there are such a multitude, they all live happy and in peace."

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/hc/letters-on-the-english/letter-vion-the-presbyterians/

Letters on the English - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Letters_on_the_English

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:44

@Efacsen so a mainstream radio news channel is lying?

GoldThumb · 05/08/2024 18:44

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 18:29

That's nonsense. On the Sunderand riots a muslim man happenned to be walking past at the wrong time and got smacked in the face. On the Rotherham one posted at the top of this thread theres one and a half hours of footage and it's all white men.

These lads are off to do some whittling with their machetes?

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1820188007745421452?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

x.com

https://x.com/nicksortor/status/1820188007745421452?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

hushabybaby · 05/08/2024 18:44

@MistressoftheDarkSide exactly! We've all been in terrible dark times and faced homelessness, relied on the state to help. None given , but are we bigoted thugs! NO .

We understand tolerance and empathy.

Eldrick47s · 05/08/2024 18:46

Eldrick47s · 05/08/2024 18:42

Legitimate and peaceful protesting is part of being a free society; there wasn't any legitimate and peaceful protesting. These riots were organised by the far right who were waiting for the exact moment a high profile incident like Stockport occurred (even if it had nothing to do with Islam), and in amongst the fascists were a pile of easily led scallies.

Racist, Islamophobic meatheads in Tommy Yaxley-Lennon and co. of the "English" Defence League don't know much about English history. Surely to be a member of such a group you have to have some knowledge of the English?

I suspect most of them cannot read, so perhaps a prison officer can read this to them in due course:

— Voltaire in Letters on the English in 1733:

"Take a view of the Royal Exchange in London, a place more venerable than many courts of justice, where the representatives of all nations meet for the benefit of mankind. There the Jew, the Mahometan [Muslim], and the Christian transact together, as though they all professed the same religion, and give the name of infidel to none but bankrupts. There the Presbyterian confides in the Anabaptist, and the Churchman depends on the Quaker’s word. At the breaking up of this pacific and free assembly, some withdraw to the synagogue, and others to take a glass. This man goes and is baptized in a great tub, in the name of the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost: that man has his son’s foreskin cut off, whilst a set of Hebrew words (quite unintelligible to him) are mumbled over his child. Others retire to their churches, and there wait for the inspiration of heaven with their hats on, and all are satisfied.

If one religion only were allowed in England, the Government would very possibly become arbitrary; if there were but two, the people would cut one another’s throats; but as there are such a multitude, they all live happy and in peace."

https://www.bartleby.com/lit-hub/hc/letters-on-the-english/letter-vion-the-presbyterians/

*Southport

GoldThumb · 05/08/2024 18:51

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 18:32

Sit through the 1.5 hours of footage in the Rotherham one. I've also done the same with the Southport one posted by the same media outlet and there is not a single non white person in the crowd.

More peaceful protests do of course attract all faiths, but not these violent brick throwing mobs.

What about these lovely lads, attacking a random bloke, and calling him a ‘white cunt’

Didn’t happen?
Bias Twitter page, so unreliable?
Insert X reason here why this doesn’t count?

x.com/tpointuk/status/1820490998872731660?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 18:52

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:27

Ive just been listening to LBC and an actual POLICE OFFICER has just been on stating that its not all far right thugs! He also said that there are plenty of Muslim gangs there inciting the fighting and he criticised the media for not reporting on it equally!

Was this a spokesman for the police or a caller?

Two very different things.

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 18:54

GoldThumb · 05/08/2024 18:51

What about these lovely lads, attacking a random bloke, and calling him a ‘white cunt’

Didn’t happen?
Bias Twitter page, so unreliable?
Insert X reason here why this doesn’t count?

x.com/tpointuk/status/1820490998872731660?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

Unacceptable, but what happened before that?

Efacsen · 05/08/2024 18:55

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:44

@Efacsen so a mainstream radio news channel is lying?

LBC got the story wrong about Starmers holiday plans just yesterday

No media source is infallible

GoldThumb · 05/08/2024 18:55

Another one.

These masked men are swarming, making gun signs at the camera.

Called ‘thugs’?
No, it’s a ‘sense of the anger’

x.com/lozzafox/status/1820505751648886961?s=46&t=ALGAiHxwK3XXeRoDQylnWA

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 18:56

A few isolated incidents versus mass rioting by English thugs. There's always going to be one off incidents of people fighting in the street. Its nothing to do with rioting.

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 18:58

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:27

Ive just been listening to LBC and an actual POLICE OFFICER has just been on stating that its not all far right thugs! He also said that there are plenty of Muslim gangs there inciting the fighting and he criticised the media for not reporting on it equally!

Was he someone who called in or was he being interviewed?

TizerorFizz · 05/08/2024 19:00

This isn’t wholly a class issue. It’s what values you possess as a human being. I doubt upper class riot but it’s perfectly possible for MC to be right wing, they and they certainly did vote for Brexit, especially older MC. Stupidly these people rely on immigrants for many services but don’t recognise this fact. We all rely on immigrants and they are a bonus for us.

People don’t seem to be able to differentiate between Immigrants! Obviously some should not be here but I’m interested to see how the government stops the boats. This would be a definite policy win. However we truly have some despicable people who want a riot. Although it’s not even a minority. It’s way smaller than that. The police need to think about how they police these events but most people do seem to want strong policing.

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 19:03

@MistressoftheDarkSide I've read a lot of your posts and know you've had a very difficult time. (I have been widowed and am a carer and I get it) You've got a fully functioning sense of right and wrong and that means so much, even if we sometimes feel powerless. It's there.

Sending you thoughts for happy change soonest. Flowers

Sallyshome · 05/08/2024 19:05

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PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 19:07

@GoldThumb we get it. It is not just white people who can be violent.

But the fact is these riots are being incited and carried out by far right thugs and various idiots who may not be part of the far right but are getting caught up in looting and rioting.

Efacsen · 05/08/2024 19:09

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Is that the 'division' between law abiding citizens and violent criminals? - sounds good to me

He'll get a lot of support for that

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 19:09

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Yes it is hilarious that people are getting hurt, buildings are being burned and people are afraid. Tee hee.

GoldThumb · 05/08/2024 19:11

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 19:07

@GoldThumb we get it. It is not just white people who can be violent.

But the fact is these riots are being incited and carried out by far right thugs and various idiots who may not be part of the far right but are getting caught up in looting and rioting.

Do you get it?

Because this was in response to the poster who said that Muslim men were also ‘protesting’ was false.
This is more than looting and rioting.

I’ve seen two different groups of Muslim get carrying machetes live on TV.

Pretending it’s a one way street doesn’t help.

I’m against anyone rioting or inciting violence, but I’m doubly against rioting and inciting violence where people are literally trying to argue it’s not happening

oatleytap · 05/08/2024 19:14

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 16:56

I would also like to know why the left wing/ middle class on here think that basically calling the working class thick and racist is going to make them listen to you? Didn't work out well for you with Brexit did it ? You are simply fuelling their anger, with your snobbish, classist, superior attitudes. This has NOTHING to do with Farage being an MP or inciting anything. It didn't happen when the Tories were in power because they were seen as trying to do something about all the illegal immigration, whereas Labour will do nothing and everyone knows it! Did two tier kier actually think his stupid statement was going to do anything other than pour petrol on an already blazing fire?

“whereas Labour will do nothing and everyone knows it”

Because you’ve looked in your crystal ball? Consulted Mystic Meg? Seen it in your tea leaves?

Labour have been in charge for a month.

You’re trying to imply that anything we’ve seen is justified because people can see into the future?!

Fucking LOL 🤦‍♂️

By the way, I’m working class. My dad abandoned us when I was a kid, and my mum brought me and brother up on £10k a year.

Does that make me qualified to point out that you’re embarrassing yourself and talking complete shit?

PandoraSox · 05/08/2024 19:17

Is this what you mean @GoldThumb ? No violence yet, but I agree it is not helpful or wise.

https://www.birminghammail.co.uk/news/midlands-news/sky-news-reporter-birmingham-pulled-29682591