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Farage inciting division, thread #2

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LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 15:30

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CassieMaddox · 05/08/2024 17:43

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2024 17:38

The 100 people outside Downing Street?

I think she might mean TRs "2 tier policing" nonsense in June. Complete with anti Islam chants and Laurence Fox being a nob.

It's a bit hard to know what the police are meant to do. Come down hard, its 2 tier policing. Don't get the pepper spray out, it's incompetence.

I think they are doing a good job tbh, far rather them than Farages plan for militarised police that aren't subject to human rights law.

I wonder how many more will be crying in court this week.

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2024 17:44

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 17:41

G@BIossomtoes typical leftie bollocks

What is?

HowardTJMoon · 05/08/2024 17:45

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 17:40

Nobodys saying ALL working class people are like the rioters for goodness sake. Im sure you understand that already though.

So if someone describes the rioters as thick and racist then they're not calling working class people thick and racist. Just the rioters.

It's almost as if those trying to conflate the two are being disingenuous to try to muddy the waters the racists hide in.

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 17:48

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 17:41

G@BIossomtoes typical leftie bollocks

You do know that some of us don't consider Leftie (let's capitalise it) to be the insult you think it is and are not one bit bothered by it? I'm not bothered by anything up to and including an inaccurate "Commie bastard".

I do think "neoNazi" and "neoFascist" are something to be very ashamed of though. They're not, but they should be.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 17:48

CassieMaddox · 05/08/2024 17:47

https://news.sky.com/story/liverpool-riots-people-appear-in-court-the-youngest-just-14-and-the-oldest-a-69-year-old-who-turned-up-with-wooden-bat-13191287

They sound like a lovely bunch.

The only person in here I have wventhe tiniest bit of sympathy for is the 14 yo.

Racist and thick seems like an apt description for the others. As well as basic criminal.

Bloody hell. 14.

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CassieMaddox · 05/08/2024 17:49

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 17:48

You do know that some of us don't consider Leftie (let's capitalise it) to be the insult you think it is and are not one bit bothered by it? I'm not bothered by anything up to and including an inaccurate "Commie bastard".

I do think "neoNazi" and "neoFascist" are something to be very ashamed of though. They're not, but they should be.

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Well said
Actually that reminds me, I haven't noticed last week's "the far left are just as bad" for a few days

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 17:51

CassieMaddox · 05/08/2024 17:49

Well said
Actually that reminds me, I haven't noticed last week's "the far left are just as bad" for a few days

Give it time @CassieMaddox , they, like Arnie, will be back. Unfortunately.

LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 17:52

Actually the oldest on the article is a 69 year old found armed with a cosh who had no previous convictions.

I find that alarming in itself. No police record but takes up armed rioting in retirement. Is this saying something frightening about the fake news and the puppet masters?

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Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 17:54

LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 17:52

Actually the oldest on the article is a 69 year old found armed with a cosh who had no previous convictions.

I find that alarming in itself. No police record but takes up armed rioting in retirement. Is this saying something frightening about the fake news and the puppet masters?

Probably oblivious to the legality of walking round with a cosh!

LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 17:55

I had pictures this as entirely "usual suspects" hardened old lags and superannuated football hooligans. I hope it's not going to emerge as a pattern that a proportion of these people are freshly radicalised normies.

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LiterallyOnFire · 05/08/2024 17:56

Probably oblivious to the legality of walking round with a cosh!

You think?

I hadn't noticed that Swiss army knives were now illegal to carry but I think even I'd work out a cosh is an offensive weapon.

I'm finding each new detail more depressing.

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lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:00

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Efacsen · 05/08/2024 18:09

BIossomtoes · 05/08/2024 16:19

I saw the clip too, he just pushed it away. It was still in the reporter’s hand as he walked away. I imagine senior police are pretty stressed at the moment.

Watched it too

Just the latest petty manufactured grievance blown out of all proportion by the 2-tier policing folks

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 18:14

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:00

He was a Reform party candidate. His parents were immigrants to Britain in the 1980s. I place him with the likes of Suella and Kemi who would deprive others of the advantages they had because in their minds they are somehow different and better.

If this young man actually thinks the rioters with Nazi symbols tattooed on them sieg heiling and burning things approve of him any more than they like Muslims/people off the boats, he is very, very wrong. I want a country that will never make him really understand that.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:27

Ive just been listening to LBC and an actual POLICE OFFICER has just been on stating that its not all far right thugs! He also said that there are plenty of Muslim gangs there inciting the fighting and he criticised the media for not reporting on it equally!

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 18:29

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:27

Ive just been listening to LBC and an actual POLICE OFFICER has just been on stating that its not all far right thugs! He also said that there are plenty of Muslim gangs there inciting the fighting and he criticised the media for not reporting on it equally!

That's nonsense. On the Sunderand riots a muslim man happenned to be walking past at the wrong time and got smacked in the face. On the Rotherham one posted at the top of this thread theres one and a half hours of footage and it's all white men.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:30

@Radarkeigh so you are saying that a police officer who has himself been policing these riots is lying?

Radarkeigh · 05/08/2024 18:32

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:30

@Radarkeigh so you are saying that a police officer who has himself been policing these riots is lying?

Sit through the 1.5 hours of footage in the Rotherham one. I've also done the same with the Southport one posted by the same media outlet and there is not a single non white person in the crowd.

More peaceful protests do of course attract all faiths, but not these violent brick throwing mobs.

MistressoftheDarkSide · 05/08/2024 18:32

I'm going to say a few things now which may be considered contentious but please bear with me.

Over the last six months my entire life has imploded in every direction.

It started roughly 2.5 years ago when I was widowed after 11 years with the love of my life. It was sudden, brutal and devastating. I was left to try and make a living from the shop we built together -DP was employed in a niche business so the basics were covered. The shop was "mine" and had been going for 7 years when I had to concede defeat due to bloody Temu and COL crisis.

I concede poor financial planning on our part - and lack of enough resilience to keep my head in the game didn't help, but I've always weathered storms before and I've had a few.

So in the last 6 months I saw my business collapse, got evicted from my home as landlord needed to sell, my elderly parents both crashed physically and mentally and ended up separated with no little blame on the part of various health and social care services. My Dad needed housing so I ended up with him staying with me while we both navigated the council help available which was so bureaucratic I nearly ended up on the streets. Fortunately his age and poor health got him housed, and the kindness of a friend helped me out. My mentally unwell SM owns the house they shared for 30 years outright due to inheritance and it was ringfenced in case my Dad was a gold digger, so he has no claim on it and besides saint that he is, he's still invested in her well-being which he is managing remotely.....there's alot more but that's the gist.

I am currently in the too broken to work category in UC. As a 55 year old with limited tech skills I am trying to figure out my future and currently have 80.00 a month after bills on my new place to eat and anything else.

Why am I bleating about this? Well, I feel pretty damn marginalised hopeless defeated and at odds with the system / the establishment. But it wouldn't occur to me to blame the guy behind the counter in the local convenience shop for that and throw a brick through his window. Nor punch and abuse any of the many HCPs etc who have frankly completely ignored most of what my Dad and I have tried to explain about my SM who is to be fair "complicated".

My education was all arts, I keep up with current affairs. I have done alot of caring of both children and the elderly MIL - dementia). There have been no inheritances or well paid jobs.

But still my son is resolutely antifascist - as am I.

I haven't gone and lobbed a burning wheelie bin at police. I haven't attacked the council services I've engaged with through gritted teeth or punched a taxi driver from another country, because honestly I have some of the best conversation with them about the parlous state of the world in general and we're pretty much on the same page.

And no, I'm not looking for a pat on the head or virtue signalling for being a good person, because God knows I have my faults. And I recognise it could be worse, especially if I did go that route.

What I am doing is asking if stress and insecurity haven't "made me" do any if these things which would rightly lead to condemnation, why have the rioters? What is really motivating them if it isn't plain racism?

TLDR - my life is shit but I'm not going to take it out on other ordinary people whose lives are also shit.

Thank you if you've read this far 🤣

Uricon2 · 05/08/2024 18:35

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:27

Ive just been listening to LBC and an actual POLICE OFFICER has just been on stating that its not all far right thugs! He also said that there are plenty of Muslim gangs there inciting the fighting and he criticised the media for not reporting on it equally!

Could you share the link, because I have difficulty thinking that a serving police officer went on the radio to say that? Having said which, Muslims didn't start the events of the last few days, in any way shape or form, but I imagine they feel very much under threat at the moment. For obvious reasons.

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:36

@Radarkeigh you didn't answer my question? So you are basically saying you know better than a serving police officer who is actually dealing with these riots? Ok then!

Efacsen · 05/08/2024 18:38

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:30

@Radarkeigh so you are saying that a police officer who has himself been policing these riots is lying?

Can't imagine the Met being happy with random PO putting themselves forward in this way

lovelysunshine22 · 05/08/2024 18:39

It wasn't a MET police officer and his identity was withheld for that very reason.