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I’m already fed up of Starmer as PM

817 replies

Wasntmeanttobelikethis · 04/08/2024 17:11

Semi- lighthearted, I know it’s early days, but I’m not convinced of Starmer as an effective leader
He reads from his notes even when giving a short speech; if he really believed in what he is saying, why the need?
He doesn’t seem to have the leadership X factor and doesn’t seem to have a grip on the ongoing riots
Bright new start for UK? Doesn’t feel like it

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EasternStandard · 16/09/2024 21:50

Rummly · 16/09/2024 21:34

Oh FFS.

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Ikr ridiculous

pointythings · 18/09/2024 13:11

Buffer zones for abortion clinics to come into effect from October 31st.

Bloody excellent, well done, Labour. The Tories could have done this and failed.

BIossomtoes · 18/09/2024 13:14

pointythings · 18/09/2024 13:11

Buffer zones for abortion clinics to come into effect from October 31st.

Bloody excellent, well done, Labour. The Tories could have done this and failed.

Excellent news. Shame it took so long and a change of government to do it.

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greengreyblue · 18/09/2024 16:41

Pay disputes settled too! Of course junior doctors should get more than newly qualified teachers!

BadPennyReturns · 19/09/2024 16:35

Goodness gracious you are not alone. I think much of the country is in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. Those too young to remember the 1970s don’t have any direct experience of what a Labour government is actually like (I distinguish between Labour and New Labour). As a country, we buggered around by voting Labour and very quickly indeed we are discovering what it involves. Misery abound.

But the title of “the most unhappy individual in the whole of Britain” must surely go to Sir Keir Starmer. Just look at him, have you ever seen someone so miserable? He and his ministers entered government believing their own rhetoric, which itself was based on an electoral pitch boiling down to little more than one central tenet i.e. “we are not the Tories”.

But, as Sir Keir and his colleagues are rapidly discovering, the required qualifications for success in high office are slightly more exacting than not being Tory. One can just imagine the thoughts currently going through his head:
What do you mean I am expected to tell the truth? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to follow parliamentary procedure when declaring gifts and freebies? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to adopt a consistent approach to law and order regardless of whether I support the cause? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t cut pensioners’ income and get away with it? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t wag my finger at Grangemouth refinery for closing down after I just banned new oil licences? I’m not a Tory!

Starmer appears to have taken his personal unpopularity and the country’s displeasure with his government, very hard. There’s one silver lining in this deep, dark cloud: it will probably inoculate today’s young people — those too young to remember the 1970s — against voting Labour for a generation. But to get there, we have to endure five years of this. Can you imagine a more depressing thought?

pointythings · 19/09/2024 17:14

BadPennyReturns · 19/09/2024 16:35

Goodness gracious you are not alone. I think much of the country is in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. Those too young to remember the 1970s don’t have any direct experience of what a Labour government is actually like (I distinguish between Labour and New Labour). As a country, we buggered around by voting Labour and very quickly indeed we are discovering what it involves. Misery abound.

But the title of “the most unhappy individual in the whole of Britain” must surely go to Sir Keir Starmer. Just look at him, have you ever seen someone so miserable? He and his ministers entered government believing their own rhetoric, which itself was based on an electoral pitch boiling down to little more than one central tenet i.e. “we are not the Tories”.

But, as Sir Keir and his colleagues are rapidly discovering, the required qualifications for success in high office are slightly more exacting than not being Tory. One can just imagine the thoughts currently going through his head:
What do you mean I am expected to tell the truth? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to follow parliamentary procedure when declaring gifts and freebies? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to adopt a consistent approach to law and order regardless of whether I support the cause? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t cut pensioners’ income and get away with it? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t wag my finger at Grangemouth refinery for closing down after I just banned new oil licences? I’m not a Tory!

Starmer appears to have taken his personal unpopularity and the country’s displeasure with his government, very hard. There’s one silver lining in this deep, dark cloud: it will probably inoculate today’s young people — those too young to remember the 1970s — against voting Labour for a generation. But to get there, we have to endure five years of this. Can you imagine a more depressing thought?

That's very poetic, you write well.

But if you think the current Labour party in any way resembles Labour of the 1970s (And yes, I do remember both!) then you haven't been paying attention.

EasternStandard · 19/09/2024 18:25

BadPennyReturns · 19/09/2024 16:35

Goodness gracious you are not alone. I think much of the country is in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. Those too young to remember the 1970s don’t have any direct experience of what a Labour government is actually like (I distinguish between Labour and New Labour). As a country, we buggered around by voting Labour and very quickly indeed we are discovering what it involves. Misery abound.

But the title of “the most unhappy individual in the whole of Britain” must surely go to Sir Keir Starmer. Just look at him, have you ever seen someone so miserable? He and his ministers entered government believing their own rhetoric, which itself was based on an electoral pitch boiling down to little more than one central tenet i.e. “we are not the Tories”.

But, as Sir Keir and his colleagues are rapidly discovering, the required qualifications for success in high office are slightly more exacting than not being Tory. One can just imagine the thoughts currently going through his head:
What do you mean I am expected to tell the truth? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to follow parliamentary procedure when declaring gifts and freebies? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to adopt a consistent approach to law and order regardless of whether I support the cause? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t cut pensioners’ income and get away with it? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t wag my finger at Grangemouth refinery for closing down after I just banned new oil licences? I’m not a Tory!

Starmer appears to have taken his personal unpopularity and the country’s displeasure with his government, very hard. There’s one silver lining in this deep, dark cloud: it will probably inoculate today’s young people — those too young to remember the 1970s — against voting Labour for a generation. But to get there, we have to endure five years of this. Can you imagine a more depressing thought?

Yep agree with you there

senua · 19/09/2024 19:03

But if you think the current Labour party in any way resembles Labour of the 1970s (And yes, I do remember both!) then you haven't been paying attention.
Their capitulation to the Unions looks remarkably similar.

senua · 19/09/2024 19:03

But if you think the current Labour party in any way resembles Labour of the 1970s (And yes, I do remember both!) then you haven't been paying attention.
Their capitulation to the Unions looks remarkably similar.

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2024 19:21

senua · 19/09/2024 19:03

But if you think the current Labour party in any way resembles Labour of the 1970s (And yes, I do remember both!) then you haven't been paying attention.
Their capitulation to the Unions looks remarkably similar.

They paid what the Tories’ pay review boards recommended. That’s not capitulating to the unions, it’s following the previous government’s rules when they failed to.

dabbadoo · 19/09/2024 19:25

BadPennyReturns · 19/09/2024 16:35

Goodness gracious you are not alone. I think much of the country is in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. Those too young to remember the 1970s don’t have any direct experience of what a Labour government is actually like (I distinguish between Labour and New Labour). As a country, we buggered around by voting Labour and very quickly indeed we are discovering what it involves. Misery abound.

But the title of “the most unhappy individual in the whole of Britain” must surely go to Sir Keir Starmer. Just look at him, have you ever seen someone so miserable? He and his ministers entered government believing their own rhetoric, which itself was based on an electoral pitch boiling down to little more than one central tenet i.e. “we are not the Tories”.

But, as Sir Keir and his colleagues are rapidly discovering, the required qualifications for success in high office are slightly more exacting than not being Tory. One can just imagine the thoughts currently going through his head:
What do you mean I am expected to tell the truth? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to follow parliamentary procedure when declaring gifts and freebies? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to adopt a consistent approach to law and order regardless of whether I support the cause? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t cut pensioners’ income and get away with it? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t wag my finger at Grangemouth refinery for closing down after I just banned new oil licences? I’m not a Tory!

Starmer appears to have taken his personal unpopularity and the country’s displeasure with his government, very hard. There’s one silver lining in this deep, dark cloud: it will probably inoculate today’s young people — those too young to remember the 1970s — against voting Labour for a generation. But to get there, we have to endure five years of this. Can you imagine a more depressing thought?

agree with this 100%

LoobyDoop2 · 19/09/2024 19:32

Writing off a PM after a couple of months in the job is exactly the kind of idiotic knee jerk that produced Johnson and Truss.

MrsSkylerWhite · 19/09/2024 20:06

scalt: Ditto Blair: plenty of charisma and charm, but extremely selfish and dangerous.

Never, ever got that, either. Met him too. Just put me in mind of a trendy vicar who desperately wanted to be down wiv the kids.

Katypp · 20/09/2024 01:45

BIossomtoes · 19/09/2024 19:21

They paid what the Tories’ pay review boards recommended. That’s not capitulating to the unions, it’s following the previous government’s rules when they failed to.

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@Blossomtoes do you think Keir Starmer could do anything at all you would object to?
Or do you justify everything Labour do, regardless?

BIossomtoes · 20/09/2024 06:58

Katypp · 20/09/2024 01:45

@Blossomtoes do you think Keir Starmer could do anything at all you would object to?
Or do you justify everything Labour do, regardless?

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Nope. The WFA cut off is too low, the two child benefit cap should be scrapped and Starmer was beyond naive and stupid to accept money for a new wardrobe from a donor. And that’s just in the first 100 days. No political party is perfect and there’s plenty to criticise legitimately.

Araminta1003 · 20/09/2024 09:53

At least we now know that in reality Sue Gray doesn’t get paid more, because her salary does not include all sorts of freebies and benefits in kind to the tune of 100k plus.

Araminta1003 · 20/09/2024 09:54

I didn’t like Rachel Reeves initially but is she actually the only clean one in the Cabinet? Like the only one with full integrity?

Forestofwoodandsteel · 20/09/2024 21:03

Araminta1003 · 20/09/2024 09:54

I didn’t like Rachel Reeves initially but is she actually the only clean one in the Cabinet? Like the only one with full integrity?

😂

StandingSideBySide · 28/09/2024 17:47

BadPennyReturns · 19/09/2024 16:35

Goodness gracious you are not alone. I think much of the country is in a bit of a state of shock at the moment. Those too young to remember the 1970s don’t have any direct experience of what a Labour government is actually like (I distinguish between Labour and New Labour). As a country, we buggered around by voting Labour and very quickly indeed we are discovering what it involves. Misery abound.

But the title of “the most unhappy individual in the whole of Britain” must surely go to Sir Keir Starmer. Just look at him, have you ever seen someone so miserable? He and his ministers entered government believing their own rhetoric, which itself was based on an electoral pitch boiling down to little more than one central tenet i.e. “we are not the Tories”.

But, as Sir Keir and his colleagues are rapidly discovering, the required qualifications for success in high office are slightly more exacting than not being Tory. One can just imagine the thoughts currently going through his head:
What do you mean I am expected to tell the truth? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to follow parliamentary procedure when declaring gifts and freebies? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I have to adopt a consistent approach to law and order regardless of whether I support the cause? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t cut pensioners’ income and get away with it? I’m not a Tory! What do you mean I can’t wag my finger at Grangemouth refinery for closing down after I just banned new oil licences? I’m not a Tory!

Starmer appears to have taken his personal unpopularity and the country’s displeasure with his government, very hard. There’s one silver lining in this deep, dark cloud: it will probably inoculate today’s young people — those too young to remember the 1970s — against voting Labour for a generation. But to get there, we have to endure five years of this. Can you imagine a more depressing thought?

All going so horribly wrong so ….so….soon!
It’s going to be a long 5years.

Might look to become an MP though then I can get £3500 for my personal heating bills…. since when we retire we’ll be losing the £300.

I see the
non dom raid looks set for disaster….wish they’d do the maths first
Education tax, waiting for………the maths
Building wherever they want irrespective of plan/perm comments…..just waiting
Why did Starmer stay so long in that Covent Garden flat….waiting for the truth
Winter fuel payments………waiting for the figures on excess deaths

Its all so…same old same old

StandingSideBySide · 28/09/2024 17:57

BIossomtoes · 20/09/2024 06:58

Nope. The WFA cut off is too low, the two child benefit cap should be scrapped and Starmer was beyond naive and stupid to accept money for a new wardrobe from a donor. And that’s just in the first 100 days. No political party is perfect and there’s plenty to criticise legitimately.

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There’s so much more though
You forgot, for example
Staying in Lord Ali’s flat for his sons exams during the election campaign.
His sons exams finished and they stayed on for more than 4 weeks.

Then there’s the £3500 MPs get for heating whilst taking £300 away from the elderly ….hypocrites.
They also sited a loss of life of 3850 old people a year if the winter fuel payment was taken away under the Conservatives and are now doing exactly that. In the knowledge people will die because of their policy….hypocrites.

Yes there’s plenty to criticise,
It would be nice if that didn’t involve knowingly killing people

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 18:55

twistyizzy · 28/09/2024 18:42

There was a thread not long ago asking who would be first

Damning letter too

twistyizzy · 28/09/2024 18:56

EasternStandard · 28/09/2024 18:55

There was a thread not long ago asking who would be first

Damning letter too

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I predict she won't be the last

LeopardPrint12 · 28/09/2024 18:58

I got flamed on here a few months back when I said I would rather stick pins in my eyes then vote Labour. All these people saying how happy they were when they got in. All this 'The grown ups are back in charge' . Absolute joke.
They will run us into the ground make no mistake. I really cannot see Keir making it to the end of the year let alone a full term.

pointythings · 28/09/2024 19:01

Meh. Rosie Duffield was just biding her time so that she could do maximum damage, and you're falling for it. If she had had the courage of her convictions, she'd call a byelection - instead she wants to continue as an independent with all the lovely perks of being an MP. Hypocrite.

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