Friend very angry that I’m on Mounjaro

[Sawingwood]

My friend is tall and willowy, never has to watch what she eats. She prides herself on being slim and the ability wear whatever she likes (tight catsuits, very short skirts etc).
Im the opposite. Short and dumpy, size 18. Desperately needing to turn the hunger button off I’ve resorted to ordering Mounjaro after a lot of reading around the subject.
Friend has hit the roof! Says that it’s cheating and a quick fix and it won’t stay off. That I should eat healthier and exercise more and that’s why I’m fat. Yes, it probably is but I don’t have her genetics either. Says she thinks it’s disgusting that people are using this quick fix etc. On and on. I’m a bit shocked and sad to be honest.
I don’t want to think Ill of her but I wonder if she’s actually worried I’ll be slim myself one day so she won’t be the slim one of the two. Anyone else had this? Don’t know what to do going forward!

I object to slim women who want to be skinny buying up supplies when there are people more deserving of the drug.
I am a slim T2 diabetic and my medical supplies of an injection have been halted. I have a tablet substitute but the manner in which it has to be taken is far less convenient.
I support the drug to be available on prescription for obese people. Probably safer than buying it too as there are apparently some me fake injections being touted now.

lol

Feel annoyed at what exactly?

That OP might be successful at losing weight?

My OH takes it. There has been such an odd vibe about it amongst our friends. Lots of quietly asked questions about how long it has been and how close he is to coming off. Feigned as concern, but clearly jealous / disapproving of the short cut. Almost not wanting him to keep the weight off. Bizarre really. Tough as it sounds, I’d either acknowledge your hurt with her and ask not to talk about it again, or knock that friendship on the head.

I went from a 20 to a size 8 (and at one point much thinner) about six years ago and several people got funny with me. One in particular was always the "thin one", at around a 10/12 and got really nasty. Never about my size, I suspect she didnt want to draw attention to the fact that I was now slimmer than her, but lots of other things. My car, my house, my hair style....anything.

I just ignored her and eventually she stopped speaking to me at all. At the time I couldnt understand what I had done wrong, but another friend said that she had been slagging me off for being too thin and that I had only lost weight to try and be better than her. It was ridiculous, even more so as actually I had developed an eating disorder as a reaction to severe trauma.

I suspect if ex friend found that out she would be furious that I didnt have to try to lose the weight! I can well imagine her having the same reaction as your friend to the jabs.

She's an idiot.
It's absolutely non of her business.
Does she go around fuming at people who had a private education because its 'the easy route' or people who used nicotine patches to stop smoking rather than going cold turkey? Or does she get cross at people who wear makeup? Wear bras? Its not their natural form after all.. maybe if they just worked harder their body would be perfect? Maybe if they were just better people they'd look fine without makeup?
She's nuts.
Probably has very low self esteem so all she hangs onto is her sense of superiority she gets from being naturally thin. Views it as a personal quality or something.

If you find weight loss drugs work for you and you are obese then just take them. Because the health benefits to you will be great if you move out of the obese bmi.
Screw this 'friend' and her nonsense. What she says isn't backed up by any evidence. It's extremely hard for people who've been obese for a long time, to lose significant weight and keep it off long term just from diet and exercise. The body has ways of clinging on to what it thinks is your base weight making it incredibly hard if you've been overweight all your life, to get to a normal bmi.

I'm not saying this to diminish the struggle of anyone who works hard to keep in shape. I myself am naturally big and have to work very hard not to become obese... but I still have empathy and can see how hard it is for people who have been overweight for a long time. And if weight loss drugs help people I think that's great!
It also involves some work, they aren't a magic fix.. but they just help curb the cravings caused by your body trying to keep you at what it recognises as your baseline weight.

It does not make life easier though, does it? You still have to diet and exercise. It just helps turn off hunger to make urges easier to manage.

I'm a T2 diabetic and my GP put me onto Trulicity injections (once a week) to help,he told me that aid weight loss.They seem to be very similar to what you take.

If anyone had a go at me for taking it to aid weight loss they'd be told to mind their own business;being overweight increases your chances of developing diabetes anyway amongst other health issues so surely your friend should be more supportive.

She isn't a very good friend and sounds as though she uses you to make herself look and feel good about herself which isn't kind.

This is true and the support you should receive to adjust your calories in/out are likely to mean that you won't regain too much.
Wegovy and Monjauro are designed to overcome metabolic resistance which is the main barrier to sustained weightloss (basically, our bodies haven't really adjusted to food not being scarce, so will always try to metabolise to maintain your maximum weight).
So that's the job of the drug. You should also be receiving (as part of the fee you pay) lifestyle and psychological support.

Is this really the first time she has shown you this side of her character? She sounds unsupportive, nasty and selfish.

I lost a lot of weight a few years ago - it was quite revealing how people reacted to it.

This is the reason I've not told a soul.

I will never tell as long as I can help it.

Fat people are judged especially by so called friends like yours.

I have a friend who I expect wouldn't like my weight loss. She is the thin one. The one that can run 10 kg
The one that boasts about her kid's achievements knowing my child is struggling

She does have good qualities and I know her competition is coming from a place of insecurity on her own part.

These drugs have been around for a long time for diabetes patients so the side effects are known. As for the cancer risk, there are now studies that show they reduce cancer risk.

I don’t take them, by the way, but respect and support the people who choose to.

I had this about WLS, the feigning concern bit is so true

About the psychology of it, what are you going to do about the skin, you'll never eat normally again, or WSL usually fails, people put it all back on again, you'll get gallstones, blah blah blah

People also really want to pathologise obesity and I was probably guilty of this when I was obese myself, but the reality is, give someone the tool to stop eating so much and they stop eating so much, particularly for volume foodies like me. Theres no 'psychological reason' I just like my food, but apparently according to those feigning concern it would all go tits up because reasons.

Doesn’t sound like much of a friend tbh.

You can only buy the drug from a registered pharmacy and you have to have a bmi of 30 to do so which is actually classed as obese. Most online pharmacies ask for some sort of ID as well as a short video/photo of scales with said starting weight.

I don’t know where the slim women are buying up supplies?

All these people so worried about these drugs. They're not worried about the hundreds of thousands of diabetics prescribed them though are they?

My OH is on these drugs (they're all much the same mechanism simply different brand names for different licences), no one would judge or be 'worried but coming across as angry' about him being prescribed them. No one would be citing a high cancer risk (not true) and little being known about side effects (not true).

No.

The reason for that is that obesity and being overweight is still seen as some sort of moral failing and people think they have the right to decide for you how you're doing it all wrong.

That is making it easier?

not having to constantly fight the hunger. That would make my life much easier and less stressful.

tonight, for examples I’ve gone to bed at 8pm because I can feel the urge to eat. If I had one of these diet drugs that turns off those urges my life would be much easier. Not planning every mouthful, then fighting it when I’m still hungry. Not having to change my lifestyle around eating.

Easy enough, stand on the scales with weights 🤷‍♀️

Your 'friend' is a massive twat

How are you going to fake the full body pic? Fat suit??

Maybe a small minority but literally everyone I’ve seen on a MJ journey has been overweight/obese. Also they won’t just take the numbers in to account, if your body doesn’t look the weight the scales say they will probably decline you.

I was surprised and quite upset by some friends responses from sending me links to how therapy can help (I am a fully trained and accredited therapist), the dangers, links to podcasts about the dangers, one friend very concerned I shall end up regretting it as I will most definitely look older along with snide remarks of if you only …. I argued back at first then I realised this is there issues not mine some are comfortable with me being the fat friend

three months on 12kg down and I feel absolutely great. I have another 15kg to go and the best thing is the food noise

yes a few side effects but positives far outweigh the negatives

I don’t care anymore and when I recently bumped into and old friend and they said I looked really well I was open with how I have done it

my friends have come round and I think feel a little foolish

there is plenty of great advice on here and best of luck

She doesn’t want you to be slim
like her and feels threatened because she probably looks down on you.

My weight has yo-you’d over the years and I e found both gaining and losing weight teaches you who your real friends are; those who don’t care what you eat or how you look, and just want the best for you.

I used to be obese and then lost weight and kept it off.
Life with a healthy BMI is so much easier and better, every day I'm thankful I was able to successfully lose weight. I would be so happy for my overweight friends if they could get their weight off, really genuinely pleased for them even my SIL who I don't like because I know what a difference it makes. How they get there isn't important, their health is.

Says that it’s cheating and a quick fix and it won’t stay off. That I should eat healthier and exercise more and that’s why I’m fat.

She sounds like an asshole but have you explained to her that you will still be doing both of the above, it’s just that the Mounjaro will Make it easier to stick to the healthy eating? Did she think that people can continue to eat huge portions/lots of crap and still lose weight just because they’ve had the injection?

Her reaction is odd.

I wouldn’t congratulate anyone on weight loss due to Mounjaro or anything similar though. It’s not an achievement like normal weight loss.