Friend very angry that I’m on Mounjaro

[Sawingwood]

My friend is tall and willowy, never has to watch what she eats. She prides herself on being slim and the ability wear whatever she likes (tight catsuits, very short skirts etc).
Im the opposite. Short and dumpy, size 18. Desperately needing to turn the hunger button off I’ve resorted to ordering Mounjaro after a lot of reading around the subject.
Friend has hit the roof! Says that it’s cheating and a quick fix and it won’t stay off. That I should eat healthier and exercise more and that’s why I’m fat. Yes, it probably is but I don’t have her genetics either. Says she thinks it’s disgusting that people are using this quick fix etc. On and on. I’m a bit shocked and sad to be honest.
I don’t want to think Ill of her but I wonder if she’s actually worried I’ll be slim myself one day so she won’t be the slim one of the two. Anyone else had this? Don’t know what to do going forward!

This.

Also it has been shown to be effective in reducing fatty liver too.

It's a wonder drug that has so many benefits it's crazy to be mad at someone taking control of their own health.

This also makes sense to me

She doesn’t sound like a nice friend. She wants you to stay fat so she looks better.

Being overweight is very complex and if eating less and moving more was an easy way to lose weight I suspect many would do so.
One school of thought is that ultra processed foods contribute to obesity by switching off the feeling full switch.
Genetics definitely seem to play a part although both my parents were obese and none of we children are.
I object to those with only a few pounds to lose buying up supplies but can see why it might help those with a lot of weight to lose.
Ultimately it’s your choice and your friend should respect that.

She isn't a good friend, she's at best ignorant and judgmental calling it cheating and spouting off uneducated opinions about how it works. At worst, she's spiteful and wants you to stay fat because it makes her feel better about herself.

And by the way, the argument that most people regain weight after coming off Mounjaro isn't a reason not to use it. Most people who lose weight in any manner regain most of it. Better to have lost it and maybe gain back some of it and need to lose it again, than stay at the high weight forever or keep gaining.

Shes not a friend.

I have a similar body to you OP and have lost count of the amount of times people have said to me “aw don’t lose weight, it wouldn’t suit you” and it’s absolutely not coming from a nice place.

These weight loss injections, as well as surgery, are not easy fixes as some people like to believe! You still need to work fucking hard at losing and then keeping the weight off. Some people are overweight because they eat too much and don’t move enough, lots of people are overweight because it’s a genetic or hormonal disorder! And that is when they “easy fixes” come in to help as a tool alongside a healthy lifestyle.

People just don’t understand obesity and it’s about time they did instead of judging us all (outwardly and inwardly).

I spent 35 years feeling Lesser than. I felt morraly bereft, greedy, a sloth, ugly and worthless because I could not control my hunger. I was vastly overweight and practically every waking moment was thinking of food what to eat now what tiwar next, could I maje a healthier choice, fuckit just want chocolate totally constantly mental torment about food.

Within a couple of hours of taking ozempic I literally did not care about food, couldn't eat more than a third of a sandwich.

I discovered that the self hate I'd experienced was totally misplaced. I've obviously got a different hormone setting regards hunger than the normal.

35 years of self hate because I just thought I was greedy, no willpower. 🥲

I'm now verging on a normal size and so happy in life, I swim, enjoy walking the dogs, currently just finished my second ever session at a gym.

Yes I know when I stop taking it it'll be hard to stop that hunger but habits have been formed and a fantastic new wardrobe to enjoy.

My long term health looks much better for this jab.

So I'm chucking 145 pounds of lost fat at your bitch of a friend who thinks it's cheating. Hope it hurts you sanctimonious madam.

There was a study recently regarding weight loss. Something like less than 5% of 1000 women with a BMI of over 35 were able to loose weight to a normal BMI using just a healthy lifestyle alone.

I suppose if you imagine what it is like for a slim person who actually doesnt listen to that voice saying fuck it eat the chocolate , who doesn't eat that toast before bed even though they really fucking want to, who has to try really hard every day to ignore the food noise you can kind of see why they might be jealous that someone else gets a shot to turn off that noise whereas because they have successfully resisted the noise themselves even though it's really hard to do that everyday they don't get to take it.

Do it for yourself OP and don't give her a second thought. From what I've heard people who lose a lot of weight or become slim for the first time are frequently disappointed by the reactions of people around them, both the congratulatory and those who'd wanted the status quo to remain.

But what matters is you putting your wellbeing first. Whatever happens with your weight loss, making a positive choice for yourself is personal growth so good on you.

Seems a strange reaction from a friend.

I would be a bit concerned and would want to make sure that a friend who was taking this was aware of all the risks, but successfully losing weight and being healthier is something you would want to encourage an overweight friend to do, isn't it?

You do realise
Slim = works really hard at not eating shit
and
Fat = eats shit

isn’t actually the be all and end all of weight.
I am obese, morbidly so, could I eat better? Yes.
Could I move more? Yes.

Do I eat significantly better and move significantly more than my normal weighted friend? Yes.

Dont be so bloody obtuse.

Why do you object to those with only a little to lose using it?

surely if it makes their weight battle easier and stops weight gain they have just as much right to use it as someone obese?

personally I think it needs closer supervision generally. It’s open to abuse- like I said if I could get hold of it I would, stop the constant daily battle of trying not to eat. I have seen people on here using fake photos to get these drugs to circumvent the guidelines.

never has to watch what she eats
How can you possibly know this? I’m not slim but I’m constantly watching what I eat. Most of my friends would probably say I eat what I want because I don’t drone on about it to them! Sounds like she’s more upset about people in general taking drugs to drop weight and the possible effects of this.

She generally eats what she likes but what she likes are small portions, mainly stir fries, salads etc. she is tall and long legged, naturally slim (what you’d call lanky) so genetics do play a part. She likes to wear 4 inch heels to make her nearly 6 feet so her size 10 body looks amazing. She knows she looks good. I don’t want to lose her as a friend but I’m so sad at her rage over it.

You may eat ‘better’. Better has no impact on weight. But if you move more than them, you are burning more calories. Because you are moving more and you will burn more calories when you do move.

You may eat better quality food but you are eating above the amount of calories you need and your friend is not.

Thats why I can lose 3lb a week eating 2500 calories and moving an average amount. Because I am fat.

Agree with this - it's like when people say well I had a baby without any pain relief as if you are lesser for not suffering or resent those who have family money etc. It's a thing a lot of us do. you see it all the time on here so it's a fault a lot of us have. The number of overweight people who assume that all slim people can eat what they want for example.

Obviously most people wouold just bitch behind your back, come on here to vent rather than tell you to your face.

Perhaps say to her - why did it make you so cross, it's never about you op it's always about them....

I doubt that what she likes is small portions, stir fries and salads. She likes chocolate and chips like the rest of us, but resists. I think it’s naive of you to think she just loves eating those small portions of healthy foods and I think you’re minimising the effort that she obviously puts in to stay slim

This is why you don’t tell anyone. If they ask, ‘diet and exercise’, which is true enough as you’re eating less and likely eating more healthily (on these jabs people end up focusing on protein/veg over junk food because you can’t eat much and eating crap makes you feel terrible). As for exercise, you definitely should be doing that, even if it’s just going for a walk. It’s good for your brain health as well as the rest of you.

Yes you are right but you have completely disregarded genetics and hormonal disorders.

I have PCOS. I eat on average around 1500 calories a day (this is my maintenance) and I workout 2-3 times a week, on top of this I do lots of walking. To lose weight I have to eat 800-1000 calories and then I lose about 1lb a fortnight. It’s not easy.

My friend has no idea how many calories she eats but when she estimated it she reckons about 1800 on a good day. She walks her dog every other day (alternating with her DH). That’s her only exercise.

So it’s not always a simple as calories in Vs calories out.

I’m so sad at her rage over it
Really? She’s raging over it? In that case I’d suggest telling her you’ve changed your mind and then take it anyway (if you want to continue the friendship).

But it actually is. Even with PCOS.

PCOS can make you more lethargic, increase cravings and so on.

But if you are morbidly obese you are burning more than 1500 calories by just existing. Add in the exercise and you are burning a lot more. To be morbidly obese, over the course of lost weeks you are eating more than 1500 cal per day.

I have PCOS and am obese. Which has made the PCOS worse. It’s doesn’t make you the exception to the rule of thermodynamics.

Well I’m glad you know what I’m eating. 🙄

I am very particular about my calories in and calories out, some may say obsessive. I know how many calories I consume and what macros I consume.

Losing weight is much more difficult for some people and gaining weight is much easier for some people. Surely you understand this?

I've had the same reaction from a friend the last 2 days, I hadn't said I had ordered MJ only I was thinking about it. Today it's arrived and I've since told her that I've decided to take longer to think about it and see how I feel in a month. I'm telling no one else, my Husband knows and is fine with it.
Depending on the details you have given I would tell her you've had a consultation and decided to think about it, and cancelled the order. Don't tell her anything else, this is your journey and no one knows but you how hard it is or how you feel. X

Ditch her. She’s negatively judging you