Friend very angry that I’m on Mounjaro

[Sawingwood]

My friend is tall and willowy, never has to watch what she eats. She prides herself on being slim and the ability wear whatever she likes (tight catsuits, very short skirts etc).
Im the opposite. Short and dumpy, size 18. Desperately needing to turn the hunger button off I’ve resorted to ordering Mounjaro after a lot of reading around the subject.
Friend has hit the roof! Says that it’s cheating and a quick fix and it won’t stay off. That I should eat healthier and exercise more and that’s why I’m fat. Yes, it probably is but I don’t have her genetics either. Says she thinks it’s disgusting that people are using this quick fix etc. On and on. I’m a bit shocked and sad to be honest.
I don’t want to think Ill of her but I wonder if she’s actually worried I’ll be slim myself one day so she won’t be the slim one of the two. Anyone else had this? Don’t know what to do going forward!

I second this. I've been pretty open about my mounjaro journey and have had so much support; sometimes from surprising corners!
I would say she does sound jealous. And while it is ok to be envious of something others can do easily, it's not ok to put them down for it, or make your jealousy their problem.
Honestly I'd be questioning what you get from this friendship and if you want to continue it

@Coconutter24 but it is neither your time nor money, so again, why does it bother you? And FWIW they won't lose any weight if they put in no effort, if you don't exercise and maintain a healthy diet you won't lose any weight.
All it does is make that achievable for people who, due to genetics and other medical conditions, struggle significantly to do so.

I think she's been a dick to you OP, but I had to say this made me laugh. I really really doubt she just so happens to really like small portion of stir fries which coincidentally are good for maintaining her size. I suspect she eats them because they help keep her slim! If a small portion of stir fry and a massive bowl of pasta had the same calories, she'd be on the pasta I'm sure!

These medications have also been tested. They’ve been used for diabetes patients for a long time.

Metformin is not without side effects either.

Having used a similar medication to Mountjaro and metformin in the past, I would take the mountjaro every day (aside from cost!).
Both had side effects but the side effects of the metformin were far far worse.

Op said it is. I would think she knows better about her body than anyone else here.

Tall people have an advantage than short people when it comes to weight distribution and calories allowed. Plus, op says her friend eats what she likes, so I dont think she has any right to comment on Op's way of losing weight. TBH, even if friend was watching what she eats like a hawk and spend entire day in the gym, she cannot expect others to do the same, not everyone can afford that financially, mentally and physically.

How is your sister, who is unfortunately acting dangerously and an extreme outlier in terms of this discussion, an example of people who are overweight and obese benefiting from these medications? What relevance is it?

Its like a thread about support for people with arthritis or extreme pain and people talking about what painkillers or medication works for them and you coming along and giving an example of your aunty who is addicted to opiates.

How is it relevant.

All substances are misused. Alcohol, tobacco, food, legal and illegal drugs. Some people use them for the wrong thing.

Its irrelevant and no one elses business how someone decides to attend to their health.

Tell her she has a genetic advantage of height and natural tendency to stay slim, for you it is a real struggle, so she has no right to comment on your ways of losing weight. As a friend, you expect her to be understanding, not judgemental. And if she still continues with her judgement, tell her in this case she has to mind her own business.

Tell her to do one 😂😂😂 aaahaha what a pathetic, jealous bitch 😂😂😂 get slim and watch her implode!

You shouldn’t have to OP but I think it is way better to keep medications etc private. I’m not using any weight loss drugs but I do take the pill as contraception and you know what, it’s no one’s fucking business but my own. When that came out there was a similar reaction and scare mongering and pearl clutching but now no one blinks.
good luck with your journey

How old is your friend? I am just under 5ft and in my teens, 20s and 30s I wasn't any heavier than 7 stone, after my divorce aged 36 I went down to 6 1/2 stone. Because of my height and small frame I looked fine. I could eat anything and I did. My parent's genetics are short and fat and tall and thin. I had the short and thin. My sister had the other combination.

However in my 40s the weight started to go up gradually and at 56 was 10stone 9lb. I'm now down to 9st 4lb. Having a fatty liver I had to do something so I use Nutracheck and normalise my portion sizes.

What I'm saying is genetics can change so your friend my not be "lucky" all her life. Don't focus on your friend, focus on yourself. I do think in part that injections are an easy fix but dieting shouldn't be difficult and restrictive (I had 2 biscuits last night and a lollipop). Whichever method you use to lose weight is up to you not your friend who doesn't sound very nice. You could figuratively lose a lot of weight by just distancing yourself from her. You need to feel good about yourself and your friend isn't helping.

Life isn't a zero-sum game, where if one person does one thing, another person gets an equal but opposite experience by default. That's a really weird attitude to have about a friend losing weight/getting fitter/competing in a triathlon/learning how to scuba dive/etc etc etc

I've never understood the undercurrent of competition in friendships. What's the point of that?

Everyone is so quick to call the skinny friend jealous, when in actual fact it's pretty obvious OP is the jealous one here.

She tries to belittle her friend by saying she's naturally/genetically thin, then in the next breath describes a healthy diet with small portions.

OP you seem to think that by losing weight you'll all of a sudden be far more attractive than your friend and that says a lot about you.

People on here make me laugh. People are so quick to say the risks of the medications but seem to forget the more dangerous risks of being obese. I'm currently doing a vlcd and the amount of people who like to bring up the risk of gallstones but don't bring up the risks of obesity, heart attack, stroke, cancer ect. Everything in life is a risk its about balancing the risk

Yes totally agree. It's strange how people feign concern about long term effects etc when it's a weight loss drug, but no one ever worries when it's any other medication for other ailments being prescribed! People definitely do not put in any though about the effects on other illnesses!

It's definitely that they think obese people don't deserve help to lose weight. They secretly must enjoy watching fatties struggle to lose weight and are internally gleeful that they are soo good at keeping their weight low and fatty must have no will power at all and therefore deserves to be fat.

Sounds like she likes you being the fat friend and is genuinely worried you won't be. Why else would she be so angry, you're her mate, she should be encouraging and supportive.

I bet you're prettier than her too and she's concerned the end result means you will be the head turner and not her.

Expand your friendship circle.

Your friend is dieting in plain sight and just makes out she prefers small portions of healthy low calorie food 🙄

Me neither.
There's something really insidious about slim people wanting fat people to stay fat, or to do it by traditional means. They want this because they know it's hard and most likely won't happen. They want to keep their standout feature where the average size is 16/18 and keep their social and dating currency. They want to keep seeing people eat takeaways and junk so they can feel superior.
Instead of you know, just being happy that a human being they care about is going to be healthier and happier. That's all that matters to me
So yes there's something very dark about wanting a friend to stay miserable.

They also judge fat people and see being fat as a moral failing (because they can't imagine getting fat themselves) so anything that makes it 'easy' to lose weight is viewed as compounding the moral failings. They think we need to atone for our failings of fatness through suffering.

The thing that gets me is when people accuse others of wasting away or being too gaunt after weight loss. They don't understand that it's usually what your face would have looked like if you had always been at a normal weight.

This. And their believe that 'ozempic face' is a real thing that only occurs if you have taken weight loss drugs!

Good point.

I really don't get this! I've lost 1.5 stone over a reasonable period of time and my face looks great. I know some people are finding semaglutides to completely kill their appetite which will lead to rapid weight loss but for most people it's just a normal rate of loss and our faces look no more gaunt than anyone who loses weight.

Yes exactly. I think everyone that loses weight on their face looks better. So don't understand the hate from people saying it's a bad thing! Suppose some people try to find faults anyway they can.

@PeriIsKickingMyButt Crazy isn't it.. I would love to know more about the psychology of it. I wonder if it goes back to our basic biology where we are competing for males 😆 but I don't feel it.