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Joe Biden is out - God bless him

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Mommybunny · 21/07/2024 18:56

Put the country before himself - yes, finally, but he’s done it.

Please God let my country be ok.

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SalviaDivinorum · 21/07/2024 20:42

Too late sadly.

He should never have stood for a second term in the first place. He's now left it too late for a credible alternative to be found.

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 20:42

Trump and Vance are absolutely fucked if Harris is nominee, a black woman ! 40% of America is non-white and they will come out in DROVES for her, they don't care how compotent she is.

Trump was polling neck and neck prior to this, the floaters ( who always decide the election will go with the 'change' candidate, they always do.

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2024 20:43

How did the democrats get themselves into this mess?
Because they didn’t address this sooner. He clearly hasn’t been capable for many months, but they’ve only started taking it seriously now. When Trump sails into power, because he will, I hope the Democrat administration reflect on this, and accept that they’re 100% at fault for this shit show

I don't think they'll accept any such thing if Trump wins; being a half black half hispanic woman's basically why she was chosen in the first place as a foil to Biden's elderly white man image, so if she fails they'll doubtless blame racism and misogyny

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Lentilweaver · 21/07/2024 20:44

Puzzledandpissedoff · 21/07/2024 20:43

How did the democrats get themselves into this mess?
Because they didn’t address this sooner. He clearly hasn’t been capable for many months, but they’ve only started taking it seriously now. When Trump sails into power, because he will, I hope the Democrat administration reflect on this, and accept that they’re 100% at fault for this shit show

I don't think they'll accept any such thing if Trump wins; being a half black half hispanic woman's basically why she was chosen in the first place as a foil to Biden's elderly white man image, so if she fails they'll doubtless blame racism and misogyny

Kamala Harris is not half Hispanic. She is half Indian.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:44

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 21/07/2024 20:42

@DowntownFoxyBrown no, I don't think she did. But Trump won the last debate, and there's no way he could have such a resounding win against anyone else (not because of them, but because Biden was so bad).
I'd say the same whoever the democrat nominee ends up being.

Harris has no recent track record and often makes no sense at all. Then she laughs inappropriately. Her past is an open joke. I don’t think she can debate him and come out well.

Americano75 · 21/07/2024 20:44

Viviennemary · 21/07/2024 20:35

All this hatred for Trump is making it more likely he will be elected. I've never seen such prejudiced reporting by so called respected TV channels and press.

Thing is, the guy puts it right there on a plate, what with the shit he says, does gets convicted for.

The man's scum.

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 20:44

Garlickest · 21/07/2024 20:32

This is a worry. Kamala Harris is impressive, but can we see America electing a not-entirely-white woman to the White House?

Possible Michelle O could win it, but she's said she wouldn't run and she isn't a white man either 😟

They said the same shit about Obama.....

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:44

Lentilweaver · 21/07/2024 20:44

Kamala Harris is not half Hispanic. She is half Indian.

From an elite family, but plays that down.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:45

Americano75 · 21/07/2024 20:44

Thing is, the guy puts it right there on a plate, what with the shit he says, does gets convicted for.

The man's scum.

Tell us about the convictions. Can you list all of the counts?

CyanideShake · 21/07/2024 20:45

Pikapikapikachu11 · 21/07/2024 19:58

I live in hope.... project 25 is scaryyyyy

Beyond scary.

Also, it's likely the new next president will get to select two Supreme Court justices. The current SC is a tool of the right, it's pretty crucial that this is evened out a bit. If that's something people are concerned about they should vote for the Dem candidate no matter who it is. SC judges remain in position for literal decades.

Bluebonnet100 · 21/07/2024 20:46

Has anyone on MN had a relative with Alzheimer’s or any other cognitive issue? It has nothing to do with age. It can even happen in the 30’s, 40’s, 50’s, or 60’s. It is sad and needs to be faced. Joe Biden’s cognitive issue became apparent at least 3 years ago.

His supporters didn’t want to face the fact that President Biden was not going to be able to fulfill his duties as President, and were hoping he could win the 2024 election so they could hold onto power. Disgusting people. Elder abuse.

i’m still surprised they didn’t keep him in the race, so he could win (maybe) and then invoke the 25th Amendment, so they could remove Biden and put Harris in as president. God help us.

Combattingthemoaners · 21/07/2024 20:46

Golden407 · 21/07/2024 20:37

No it's just honest, just because she's a woman it doesn't mean she's flawless

x.com/simonateba/status/1708572039664062809?t=KXDXM4FMCPPirATIjGcj_Q&s=19

I never said she was. I said it’s a lazy critique often used against women in positions of power. She’s got a degree in politics and economics and is a qualified lawyer. You don’t get to the position she is in by being thick.

Wendycoping · 21/07/2024 20:46

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 20:42

Trump and Vance are absolutely fucked if Harris is nominee, a black woman ! 40% of America is non-white and they will come out in DROVES for her, they don't care how compotent she is.

Trump was polling neck and neck prior to this, the floaters ( who always decide the election will go with the 'change' candidate, they always do.

I'd be amazed if this comes to pass, but we can hope I suppose.

SisterMichael · 21/07/2024 20:47

Hopefully Kamala Harris can look ahead to the Convention now, unburdened by what has been.

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 20:47

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:41

How did this happen?

With Biden running, no one ran against him for the nomination (typical when the party has a sitting president)so no one else was fund raising to the extent needed for a presidential campaign.

It's the Biden-Harris campaign so Kamala can access the funds (most? All of? Not sure), but the others can't.

Also, it will be very difficult for whoever gets the nomination. Realistic candidates in four or eight years time would probably prefer to bide their time.

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DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:48

CyanideShake · 21/07/2024 20:45

Beyond scary.

Also, it's likely the new next president will get to select two Supreme Court justices. The current SC is a tool of the right, it's pretty crucial that this is evened out a bit. If that's something people are concerned about they should vote for the Dem candidate no matter who it is. SC judges remain in position for literal decades.

Agree it needs evening out. Comey-Barrett has been a wildcard though, which is fantastic. I’m ready for Alito and Thomas to go but hope they don’t both leave under any one administration.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:49

SisterMichael · 21/07/2024 20:47

Hopefully Kamala Harris can look ahead to the Convention now, unburdened by what has been.

🤣

Emmanuelll · 21/07/2024 20:50

Viviennemary · 21/07/2024 20:35

All this hatred for Trump is making it more likely he will be elected. I've never seen such prejudiced reporting by so called respected TV channels and press.

If you didn’t already know, respect has to be earned if people are going to take you seriously as the leader of a county. And especially when that country is a democracy.

After Trump refused to accept the election result in 2020 and encouraged people to riot, which resulted in innocent people being killed, I’d say there is no way back for him to be viewed as a person worthy of respect ever again.

People who talk about ‘Hatred’ for Trump are almost always Trump fans.

EsmaCannonball · 21/07/2024 20:50

One of the problems with Harris is that she's a terrible public speaker.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:50

Wendycoping · 21/07/2024 20:46

I'd be amazed if this comes to pass, but we can hope I suppose.

I think that is a huge underestimation of the non-white voting population in the US. They are not puppets or fools.

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 21/07/2024 20:50

Interesting comment in Obama's statement

"But I have extraordinary confidence that the leaders of our party will be able to create a process from which an outstanding nominee emerges"

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 20:50

paperrocksiscissors · 21/07/2024 20:44

They said the same shit about Obama.....

Aside from the fact that Obama is lightning in a bottle, a once in a generation politician - brains, charisma, can talk to anyone at any level etc etc etc... He's the "right kind" of Black - i.e. half white, with European features and raised by his white family. And he's a man.

Harris has a bigger mountain to climb, regardless of her own abilities.

powershowerforanhour · 21/07/2024 20:51

"bet you anything that Trump refuses to do the second debate against Harris."

I don't think he will, if he's being the big hero waving his fist around shouting Fight Fight Fight, I don't think he could bear to run away from a woman.

Hillary said you couldn't really debate against him properly anyway:
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hillary-clinton-trump-biden-debate-b2568561.html

From memory he interrupted her constantly and the person chairing the debate was far too weak and let him get away with it.

Plus as Hillary said in that article, the bar for Trump is so low he can just ramble non sequiters and lie and people think ah well, that's just him.
Whereas Harris will have to be absolutely on it. Her looks, her stance, her voice pitch and cadence will have to be perfect and she'll have to have a superb grasp of all the topics for debate whereas Trump can just say any old shit.

Hillary Clinton previews Trump-Biden debate: ‘He starts with nonsense’

Hillary Clinton slammed Donald Trump, saying ‘expectations for him are so low that if he doesn’t literally light himself on fire on Thursday evening, some will say he was downright presidential’

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/hillary-clinton-trump-biden-debate-b2568561.html