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Joe Biden is out - God bless him

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Mommybunny · 21/07/2024 18:56

Put the country before himself - yes, finally, but he’s done it.

Please God let my country be ok.

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Callalllaaammma · 21/07/2024 20:32

If it's not Camalla then there is no access to the 100 million fund that has been raised for Joe Biden, because she is the Vice president she would be able to receive these funds.
The Democrats pursued Trump vigorously through the courts over an accounting error to do with his campaign funds with regards to Stormy Daniels and they will have to tread very carefully to allocate the money correctly without it being challenged in the courts over it's use.

If not a new candidate would have to raise money from scratch with only a short amount of time to do it. Stronger candidates might not choose this race to run against Trump as he is very strong position at the moment.

Garlickest · 21/07/2024 20:32

BMW6 · 21/07/2024 19:16

Sorry but I really can't see America having a female president in the next 30+ years.

This is a worry. Kamala Harris is impressive, but can we see America electing a not-entirely-white woman to the White House?

Possible Michelle O could win it, but she's said she wouldn't run and she isn't a white man either 😟

Mommybunny · 21/07/2024 20:32

“Biden who would happily give Americas waining money away for his own ego and pension pot.”

WTF does that even mean? Trump would hand Ukraine to Putin on a silver platter and break up NATO in his first hundred days in office (he tried it in his first term but his staff stopped him - this time there would be no brakes on him).

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medianewbie · 21/07/2024 20:32

powershowerforanhour · 21/07/2024 19:04

Good wishes to him and very best of luck to his successor.

I agree.

Wendycoping · 21/07/2024 20:33

So it will be Trump then almost certainly JD Vance, unless the Democrats find someone decent. Kamala Harris isn't good enough.

Viviennemary · 21/07/2024 20:35

Americano75 · 21/07/2024 20:27

Please God you're right about how hated Trump is, the thought of him winning this is horrendous.

All this hatred for Trump is making it more likely he will be elected. I've never seen such prejudiced reporting by so called respected TV channels and press.

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:35

Garlickest · 21/07/2024 20:32

This is a worry. Kamala Harris is impressive, but can we see America electing a not-entirely-white woman to the White House?

Possible Michelle O could win it, but she's said she wouldn't run and she isn't a white man either 😟

I would be really, really interested to see examples of Kamala Harris being impressive. Please link me to those

Wendycoping · 21/07/2024 20:36

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:35

I would be really, really interested to see examples of Kamala Harris being impressive. Please link me to those

Yes, me too.

SpicyKitty · 21/07/2024 20:36

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DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 21/07/2024 20:37

I bet you anything that Trump refuses to do the second debate against Harris.

Golden407 · 21/07/2024 20:37

Combattingthemoaners · 21/07/2024 19:55

The classic unintelligent woman critique. The same insult flung at Angela Rayner. It’s lazy and to be honest it’s sexist.

No it's just honest, just because she's a woman it doesn't mean she's flawless

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BackOfAsda · 21/07/2024 20:37

ifIwerenotanandroid · 21/07/2024 19:55

Can they get George Clooney in to replace him? I mean, who wouldn't vote for George Clooney? (I would but sadly I'm not American.)

Too many skeletons in his closet 😉

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:38

Josh Shapiro will likely run in 2028 and they should tap him now if they can control where the money goes. John Fetterman would make an interesting VP. Unfortunately, both are too moderate for the democratic party of today.

CarmelaBrunella · 21/07/2024 20:38

BackOfAsda · 21/07/2024 20:37

Too many skeletons in his closet 😉

I agree. He wouldn't risk it.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:39

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 21/07/2024 20:37

I bet you anything that Trump refuses to do the second debate against Harris.

I think he will relish it. He has not shied away from debates and doesn’t seem to lack in confidence. Did she debate well before?

Emmanuelll · 21/07/2024 20:39

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You obviously didn't see his last speech - mumbling and drifting off into stupid nonsense about how friendly he is with Kim Jong Un (not something to brag about in a democratic country after all).

Trump very much looks and sounds his age imo. And he's thick.

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 20:39

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I don't get the impression non-white Americans are clamouring for another Trump presidency.

LuckyPeonies · 21/07/2024 20:40

Voting for the magat party is voting for the American Taliban. Abolition of personal rights for everyone, except white christian affluent males.

‘Isolationism is great’, no more support for Ukraine, NATO, etc. But lots of kissy face with poutine, orban, and other assorted dictators, and emulation of their governments and citizen control methods.

‘Climate change is a hoax’, so carry on and ‘drill baby, drill’.

Abolish environmental protections, do away with endangered species protections, public lands should be exploited for oil and whatever else can be extracted, no matter how damaging.

More book banning. Forced religion everywhere. Extreme right-wing judges deciding everything based on christian doctrine.

Wealthy people don’t go to prison, only ‘the little people’ are subject to ‘legal justice’.

Government controlled media.

Abortion bans with long prison sentences if violated (and some magats even believe in the death penalty for women who have abortions).

No more birth control because vance and the magats believe there aren’t enough babies and it’s a woman’s duty to produce children.

vance also believes the child-free ‘have no stake in the future’, therefore no votes for them. But votes for all parents and children, with the parents (fathers) deciding whom they will vote for.

And, also according to misanthrope vance, women who put their children in nursery are ‘bad mothers’ because they should stay home to raise them. Not sure what he envisions to solve that problem, and I hope we don’t have to find out.

I could go on and on, but all of the above was stated in interviews and in public by vance and other magat politicians and is easily found online, as well as carefully outlined in Project 2025, also available online.

IndigoIsMyFavouriteColour · 21/07/2024 20:40

Justcallmebebes · 21/07/2024 20:35

I would be really, really interested to see examples of Kamala Harris being impressive. Please link me to those

Same, I've seen her giggling like a school girl and not making much sense a few times, I've seen her being ripped apart by African leaders and fleeing home with her tail between her legs but I've never once seen her be anywhere near 'impressive'

Wendycoping · 21/07/2024 20:40

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:39

I think he will relish it. He has not shied away from debates and doesn’t seem to lack in confidence. Did she debate well before?

He will love it and I expect he'll wipe the floor with her.

(I am not a Trump fan but she is weak, sadly)

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 20:40

HermioneWeasley · 21/07/2024 19:44

@samarrange i don’t believe the floating voters will be won over by Harris.

they need to get a centrist white straight man. That’s their only hope.

None of the centrist white men have the funds.

Alexandra2001 · 21/07/2024 20:41

IndigoIsMyFavouriteColour · 21/07/2024 20:28

There are wars in Europe and in The Middle East all reeking of Biden's failure to do any sort of diplomacy. For most of the last year the Americans had absolutely no contact with China, one of the biggest superpowers in the world. He sent Harris to Africa with a crazy agenda and she was laughed out. Now most African protests involve people in Russian/Putin shirts burning American flags.

I am amazed people cannot see this for what it is or that man for who he is. Trump is no angel but my God he is better for international relations than Biden who would happily give Americas waining money away for his own ego and pension pot.

Do you actually follow international current affairs?

Russian and Chinese involvement in the developing world has been going on for many years, inc when Trump was in, in fact his America First is exactly what has helped cause this.

Wars in ME and Europe? have been going on for decades... long before Biden came along.

The idea that the democrats and Biden are some responsible for the worlds ill's is quite frankly ludicrous.

imho Trump will win regardless of who the democrats put up but they will at least have a small chance now.

DowntownFoxyBrown · 21/07/2024 20:41

CelesteCunningham · 21/07/2024 20:40

None of the centrist white men have the funds.

How did this happen?

DancingPhantomsOnTheTerrace · 21/07/2024 20:42

@DowntownFoxyBrown no, I don't think she did. But Trump won the last debate, and there's no way he could have such a resounding win against anyone else (not because of them, but because Biden was so bad).
I'd say the same whoever the democrat nominee ends up being.

1dayatatime · 21/07/2024 20:42

@BMW6

"Sorry but I really can't see America having a female president in the next 30+ years."

I was having a look at the polls for alternative Democrat candidates against Trump and interestingly there are only two democratic options which poll higher than Trump /Vance:

Michelle Obama with Harris as VP

And much more surprisingly

Hilary Clinton with Harris as VP

All the alternative male candidates post same / marginally higher than Harris but all would lose to Trump based on the polls.