OK-Join me in a "Who will lose their job first?" poll

[CurlewKate]

And how soon" competition.

My money's on David Lammy by February.

But Jeremy Corbyn.

I am thinking of starting a petition calling for a General Election so that this can be put to the test. Will you join me?

Lammy will have to go if Trump is re-elected.

Thanks for pointing that out. Multiple times 😂

And yes, clearly he was just a bit confused!

Where was he confused though?

She didn’t go to a red brick though. Or have extra curricular sports. Or violin lessons.

Which is exactly why she is fantastic.

At the risk of repeating myself, he did though once say.

"chicken"

And I am disgusted.

I think the video of Lammy on LBC will get quite a bit of airing - hopefully not around the world

I have no idea what "chicken" refers to I'm afraid, but please do feel free to inform me.

Why? Why should we change our political leaders because they do? We don’t belong to them. Trump wouldn’t do anything for Britain whoever was in the foreign office anyway. He’s an isolationist. Starmer knows the election is coming and that’s a possible outcome. If he didn’t think Lammy could work with Trump as well as anyone else he wouldn’t have appointed him in the first place

It is a quote from our Foreign Secretary.

If you want the context you could look it up.

David Lammy speaks / writes publicly on subjects he knows nothing about - ie accusing the BBC of "racist innuendo" when discussing the colour of the Vatican smoke when a new pope is elected and people "growing a cervix". This does make him look silly.

Is it this chicken story?

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2019/aug/16/chicken-shop-knife-crime-campaign-home-office

Anyone wanting Labour to fail right now really should give their heads a wobble in the face of announcements like the one they've just made. Remember the Education expert that the Tories brought in to determine how much it would cost to help our kids catch up after the pandemic? He recommended spending £15bn on various programmes, the Tories went "nah, let's spend billions on divisive policies like Rwanda instead and give the kids just 10% of what's needed", and he resigned in protest. Well, Starmer has just appointed him to the Department for Education to help schools. Nice one.

schoolsweek.co.uk/sir-kevan-collins-joins-the-dfe-board/

That makes no sense.

How do you advocate for equality for women when men can be women?

How do you achieve equal pay when a highly-paid man can identify as a woman and hey presto, sex pay gap closed?

How do you tackle VAWG when men can be women, including committing offences against women while claiming womanhood themselves?

How do you set healthcare policies to tackle health inequalities faced by women when men can be women?

These are not meant as as gotchas, they are serious questions. How do you do anything specifically for women, when "woman" now means "any human"?

@CelesteCunningham I think there must be other criteria at work here.

I quite agree it never has, but we are where we are.

How do you achieve equal pay when a highly-paid man can identify as a woman and hey presto, sex pay gap closed? Equal pay is a macro issue established over wide groups of people. A single person would have no effect.

How do you tackle VAWG when men can be women, including committing offences against women while claiming womanhood themselves? You tackle it by punishing perpetrators, regardless of sex.

How do you set healthcare policies to tackle health inequalities faced by women when men can be women? By tackling health inequalities for the entire population. The greatest health inequalities are due to poverty, not sex or gender.

Unless Corbyn makes a spectacular come-back and takes a seat at the cabinet table, I think we can safely say that consideration of his ministerial job prospects needn’t bother us. Did you mean to post on a different thread?

Nobody said he was thick because he's black. It's because he makes misogynistic statements

Agree that Rayner is fantastic, clever and exactly what we need

You don’t have to say it for it to be at the root of your feelings though. And they were mistaken comments but not misogynistic. He doesn’t hate women, in the same way that you maintain you don’t hate trans women.

Pathetic thread, especially given the absolute state of the last government.

Please tell me there isn't more than one thread.

The mind boggles.