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[CurlewKate]

And how soon" competition.

My money's on David Lammy by February.

Interesting you think you are the grammar police rather than sticking to the subject matter concerned.

Yes, rather depressingly I think you are right. I wonder if it is the same women who claim to be feminists.

Why has she got to do with anything? MY answer to the question was Rachel Reeves will be sacked, I have not mentioned Rayner!
And in case you missed it, I have clearly no love for the Tories as I have pointed out they were cutting taxes when we were still borrowing, a moronic policy.

Probably!

The largest problem in society is that ALL politicians lie to get their jobs and people in general are selfish, greedy and feel entitled to more than they want to pay for, that's why we have borrowed for 80 years instead of actually saving money and paying our bills. So ALL MPs promise unrealistic positions and then borrow more to then pass the debt along to a government further down the line.

In the interests of factual accuracy I would like to point out that UK government borrowing started in the reign of William III.

How do you tackle VAWG when men can be women, including committing offences against women while claiming womanhood themselves?

You tackle it by punishing perpetrators, regardless of sex.

Don't you think it is important to know who is committing violent crime? As someone who has lost a relative to domestic violence I think it is vitally important we have these details. My female relative was murdered because she was female and the motivation was rooted in misogyny and societal expectations relating to biological sex.

I was merely using Angela Rayner as an example. Stop shouting

If he got over 50% of the votes cast, it seems extremely likely that some of those voting for him were women.

So when people talk about issues ‘affecting 50% of the population’ they should probably be mindful of the fact that they are not speaking for that 50% of the population.

Quite a few women would also like to be able to have threads not be entirely taken over by this one issue too.

Yes to be fair the Kings funded their wars and explorations through borrowing, but the main borrowing expenses and public knowledge of those borrowings have been since the end of the WW2. Not many potato farmers could read a paper or had access to facts to know what the king was up to.

Ah, right. Thank you. I haven’t been posting about trans stuff on this thread so I was a bit thrown.

I thought you were implying that Lammy’s constituents’ voting habits were a guide to his intellectual powers.

All the violence is bad, my mums best friend knifed her husband because he would not hang the new wallpaper she bought, he had only redecorated 2 weeks previously, but her expectation of him was as the man it was his duty to do the decoration.

It seems that every thread is, or descends into it.

So it would be acceptable to say a white man is thick for saying the same thing?

All the violence is bad, my mums best friend knifed her husband because he would not hang the new wallpaper she bought, he had only redecorated 2 weeks previously, but her expectation of him was as the man it was his duty to do the decoration.

Of course all violence is bad but when 2 women a week are murdered by men ( who are typically a current or ex partner) then it's clear we have an issue with male violence against women. If we start to use to word women to describe any human, it hides this problem. Who will this impact the most? Most definitely biological women.

It does!

He hasn’t you’re right but maybe it’s only when it’s related to women ‘hoarding rights’ you don’t

How on earth do you get that from what I’ve said?
I actually don’t think we should call anyone thick, particularly those who have proved their academic excellence, just because they might say something silly, or misinformed, or in error or that we don’t agree with. Or at all really.
What I’m saying is that some people, some racist people, might be predisposed to assume a PoC is less intelligent.

No I don’t think it’s remotely important. What is important is that it doesn’t happen or if it does that the perpetrators are punished.

How do you tackle VAWG when men can be women, including committing offences against women while claiming womanhood themselves? You tackle it by punishing perpetrators, regardless of sex.

It’s important that the sex of perpetrators is recorded accurately though. We have a real issue of male violence against women - if men can be violent towards women and then change gender while awaiting trial, as tends to happen, then have that crime recorded as having a female perpetrator that becomes problematic when accurately assessing male violence towards women. It’s not about being precious, it’s about understanding societal trends as they impact women - as in adult, human, female.

Go back and read what you posted

Of course it's important - it should be stopped well before it gets to the punishment stage. In order to prevent crimes from happening you need to understand why they happen and address the issues with resources, education, prevention and so on. You can't do that unless you know the sex, race, religion and so on of the people committing the crimes. This is basic stuff.

if men can be violent towards women and then change gender while awaiting trial, as tends to happen

I’d really like to know how many times it’s happened given that trans people of both sexes compromise 0.5% of the population.

I said you don’t have to say he’s black for it to be at the root of your feelings. I didn’t say it was at the root of yours specifically and I absolutely certainly didn’t imply it would be ok if he were white. Seriously, how do you arrive at that conclusion from what I wrote?

A couple of years ago the SPS confirmed 16 trans inmates in Scots prisons, of whom eight began their transition while “being cared for in custody following their remand or conviction for their current offence”.
The SPS said the other eight trans prisoners began transitioning or were living in their acquired gender when they were convicted or placed on remand.
In response to a Freedom of Information request, the SPS disclosed that six trans prisoners have “current or previous” convictions for sex offences.
An undisclosed number of trans women – men identifying as female – are currently under consideration for a move into the female estate. From Back Into Society.