Understanding Jay Slater case

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Can someone explain what is known about this.
My brief understanding (and I'm possibly wrong) is that he had a scuffle and stole a Rolex outside the party he attended. Then went back to an Airbnb with two British guys he didn't know. Stayed there a couple of hours then attempted to walk back to his accommodation. Had a couple of phone calls with friends that give no particular info. The British guys are not involved (seems odd that he was with them). And JS is still missing or possibly hiding/kidnapped. Who has the Rolex?
It all sounds very convoluted and a clear picture would obviously help people understand.

I agree with this. There's loads of speculation and I'm sure 99% of it is rubbish and very upsetting for his family.
It seems he'd made friends with these men a few days before so he wasn't going off with people he'd only met that night.

I was offered cocaine in the middle of the day in Tenerife. They are openly dealing and police must be aware, they just drive past ! ( I'm a 57 year old woman .. I was half shocked and half amused !!!)

I don't think he's in the mountains. If he had fallen and died the vultures would have been all over him and any search party would have seen an influx of vultures in one spot

I've seen the headlines and articles about this case, and its very sad if he has simply been misguided about thinking he could walk that far (likely due to drugs/drink and thus not making sensible decisions).

Main question mark from me is the two men (apparently older, in 40s) that he went back with that night/early hours. I know they're back in the UK now and will have been questioned etc. But does anyone know what their story is? From an outside perspective (without a huge knowledge of the detail of the case) it seems odd they took him back to theirs, and presumably had a drug/drink filled night and then left for the UK the very next day. Is there any info about these two people?

Really?! The idea that he is not on the island is one of the more outlandish theories I have heard.

Agreed. The conspiracy theories are just nuts. The men renting the AirB&B were holidaymakers who stayed on longer than scheduled to help the police with inquiries before returning home. There’s nothing to indicate they were involved in his disappearance or were anything other than new friends who had met whilst out partying and decided to do some afterpartying together. I remember being in my teens and early twenties and how you’d meet somebody at a party or in a club or at a festival and they’d feel like your new best friend, it’s not odd at all. The whole “drug mule” stuff is based on some anonymous FB post.

Even seasoned travellers can get caught off guard. One bad decision, fuelled by a drink or drugs can lead to disaster. Heat stroke, falls, or worse - it's a recipe for trouble. The dude was reportedly drunk or high when he called a friend saying he needed a drink. Ecstasy can cause dehydration, sweating and who-knows-what else. If you're lost, dehydrated, and disoriented, accidents are more likely to happen. Let's hope he's just having a rough time and will be found soon. I recall a last year a German tourist who went missing in a Zimbabwe wildlife park and was found three days later!

The Civil Guard has stopped searching but the investigation by police investigators is continuing despite this. Information on the police investigation hasn’t been given and they have refused to rule out anything suspicious

@CantDealwithChristmas

I was surprised the 2 guys in the Air BnB apparently went straight back to the UK, as the last people to see him alive I'd have thought the police would want to question them closely.

Apparently....

Jay made the phone call after he left them.

The police have interviewed them.

The police will have seen their passports.

The police have cleared them.

@TerroristToddler as above

If the UK guys were totally innocent (and Spanish police have said they are) then of course they will return to the UK as they are not suspects. If all the accounts are true it would seem he went back with the British men (seems illogical to sober people but he was young, likely reckless and certainly drunk). He left to get the bus, saw air b and b lady. Went up the hill and naively thought he could take a mountain path and get a shortcut rather than stick to the winding road. He called his friend Brad whilst starting this and was happy / laughing. Shortly after he called Lucy and was then panicking, he was lost, thirsty and 1% battery. This poor decision making would sadly mean he is no longer alive. The terrain is horrendous, look how long it took them to find Michael Mosley a few weeks ago and he was extremely close to the beach / restaurant.

That is possibly what happened (give or take, I’ve made some assumptions) in its simplest form and therefore the most likely. However, because there is no concrete evidence, there are many other theories too and like anything, they could be possible.

It’s the stamp on a pill, not slang for coke.

I wonder what the wildlife is there, how quickly his remains would have been consumed if he died trying to walk back without water, as is the most likely scenario.

It's fairly easy to get lost in a way that makes you very difficult to find.

I remember there was a case where a car went off the road a while back in Wales and it took quite some time to find. That was an entire car not just one person. And I think that has happened several times in the UK.

Still if you got a helicopter out fairly quickly and dogs and drones with FLIR cameras I would have thought you would find someone pretty quickly, even in that difficult terrain.

im guessing he must have fallen and be in a difficult to access/see place? Otherwise I don’t understand why searches haven’t found him if he was somewhere he’d managed to walk to himself.

I feel for his family, but he was involved in a machete attack on another boy in the UK, so my sympathies for him are limited.

Coke, according to the DEA.

Pretty sure the police are fully aware of the drugs problem 🤔

The police force in Tenerife are known to be one of the most corrupt forces in the world.
They run with the mafia they hide what they want to hide.

So many missing young men.
Not sure why this case had such traction.

It must be ghastly for parents not to know.

Jonathan Spollen ( a gentle man from Ireland) has never been found Rishikesh, India.

Another missing 22 yr old In Bristol, too
We saw missing and £20,000 reward posters up this weekend visiting.

It’s really annoying that people keep trying to derail by pointing out that Rolex can have a secondary and lesser drug-related meaning.

These people obviously haven’t bothered reading the stories in the Sun and Daily Mail on Sunday which make clear that it was a Rolex WATCH which had been stolen by strangers from an Eastern European man outside a cannabis bar on the night before Jay went missing.

Go back to the source of where Rolex was first mentioned and it is a WATCH!

Incidentally I saw a programme on Ibiza recently and it also showed a Rolex WATCH being stolen from the wrist of a man whose car had pulled up at a petrol station

And just for old time sake here is Wiley singing about Rolex WATCHES:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=Bxjdg_D5YQY

Rolex made a model with a red and black bezel nicknamed ‘the Coke’ so that’s probably how the slang name came about.

What police force? The local police, the civil guards, the national police? And "in the world"? I think you are high on Rolex yourself. What a load of bull.

“Intriguingly, in this light, I can reveal that local police are now investigating a scuffle outside Papagayo Beach Club shortly after closing time on Monday, June 17 — the most crucial hours in Jay's disappearance — in which a burly Eastern European man allegedly had a valuable Rolex watch stolen.
Last Friday, one of Slater's friends, who had <a class="break-all" href="https://archive.ph/o/5DH24/www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13544333/jay-slater-timeline-disappearance-lost-tenerife-search.html" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">come to Tenerife to join the hunt, told detectives that the early morning incident led directly to Jay going missing. Officers are now examining CCTV footage from the venue's security cameras.
One theory now understood to be on the table is that the Rolex had somehow ended up at the remote mountain cottage to which Slater had travelled, and that he fled into the wilderness in an ill-fated attempt to steal it.”

Paywalled article: archive.ph/5DH24

I work in search and rescue. I work in mountain rescue and I work in international search and reacue

there is a multitude of reasons we call off searches. So in the uk the police choose what we search. There are speia police officers whose entire jobs are to work out where they were last seen. The time and the phone ping location. We search those areas and depending on the police we normally call it off and come back….or we carry on (if it’s a child we usually just keep going for example). Though we do have rest every 9 hours or so. We search really dense forest and things mostly and it’s physically exhausting.

now international rules are different. I search more fallen buildings or earthquakes areas. I do want to get into international land searching though

so I know they had those kinds of people out searching

so from my experience. They’ve either searched as much as they can.

they haven’t searched as much as they can as it’s so lsrge

they’ve been missing so long that there is no chance of life. (When I say this we mean think they’ve been in water for 5 days or more) however we have water teams who would continue to do that regardless.

we rarely ever stop…if there is a threat to life

they probably stop because someone over there has called the search off. Could be too big. Could be searched entirely.

lots of reasons.