Understanding Jay Slater case

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Can someone explain what is known about this.
My brief understanding (and I'm possibly wrong) is that he had a scuffle and stole a Rolex outside the party he attended. Then went back to an Airbnb with two British guys he didn't know. Stayed there a couple of hours then attempted to walk back to his accommodation. Had a couple of phone calls with friends that give no particular info. The British guys are not involved (seems odd that he was with them). And JS is still missing or possibly hiding/kidnapped. Who has the Rolex?
It all sounds very convoluted and a clear picture would obviously help people understand.

@oakleaffy I agree about trial by media. I remember the Christopher Jeffries accusations. Horrendous. But, I believe there is a difference between that and this. That was a very different time in terms of social media.

Here we have a very different scenario where every Tom, Dick and Harry have been thinking they’re getting one over on his family, poking fun, weaving theories about his friends. I can’t imagine the extra layer of hell that his family must have been put through with all of this.

I think the family and friends need to whip up excitement to ensure good coverage and searching, because sometimes that helps. If y child went missing I would probably do the same.

There’s a heart warming case where a young man was missing for a week, and only turned up after having seen the massive social media search underway for him. It moved him to come home after a mental health crisis.

Unfortunately it can get out of hand.

@KeirSpoutsTwaddle ’the family and friends need to whip up excitement’ is highly distasteful.

I assume you mean that the family and friends feel obliged to talk to the media to gain coverage and aid their search.

I mean exactly what I said. They need to whip up attention, get it out there and get people to engage with it so that they get good coverage.

Sadly that is how algorithms work. That doesn’t happen with restrained, polite posts.

People share and engage the posts with the photogenic picture, the emotional appeal, the drama. Unfortunately. You can decry human nature, but you can’t deny the way it works.

I didn't view any groups but what I read on here was bad enough,

A sad day for his family and friends.

The landscape looks unforgiving even if you were well prepared.

thier drug dealers not murderers we a know now that jay willingly went to that country to be involve in illegal activities unfortunatly as always something terible has happened, so awful for his loved ones all the people that went thier for a good time and it got ruined and for all the honest peopke that live and work thier

so does anyone know exactly how this will play out, what do you think the law says? because its in another country does that mean that the police in this country cant be involved if it would happen here there would be an investigation ????

Where is your evidence that he went there to be involved in illegal activities? I haven't seen any reports saying this.

Yes, at least one of the people he went with certainly used to be a drug dealer, but he says that was in the past.

What is the crime you think the police should be involved with? Slater's death was clearly accidental and I can't see anything in any reports that suggests a crime was committed.

How what will play out?

What are you talking about?

No idea what you're talking about

sorry i mean to say, what happens in this country now, because i really dont see the authorities doing much more in teneriffe, they just asked few friends questions and let tbem go, that was when he was mussing, since hes been found and its said he had an accident and fell, so is that it, the authorities dont think that thier are no suspisious circumstances of any kind ? and with the authorities here be doing any investigations into anything if there is anything ?

if he wasnt dealing in anything illegal he certainly was taking them ,

They have the full info. It doesn't look suspicious to me. Young lad under the influence of drink and drugs, had no sleep, got lost on a mountain. He was apparently heading towards the sea as a shortcut but fell down the ravine. It's very sad. If there was anything suspicious about it, I'm sure they'd follow it up.

But so what? What do you expect the authorities to do about the fact a deceased person took drugs at a rave? It's hardly unusual.

so its right to think that theve said he definatly walked to the mountains by himself , theres no way to prove that his body had been moved after he had passed ?

There may be an inquest, which is essentially a fact-finding exercise following autopsy which will make a final statement on cause of death. The autopsy has indicated death consistent with falling from height and exposure, and the inquest will follow that indication. But there’s no other “investigation” needed to place, the cause of death isn’t suspicious, it was a tragic accident / misadventure.

Unless there’s evidence of this - and neither the Tenerife police nor the autopsy have indicated that there is - chasing after conspiracy theories isn’t something the U.K. judicial system is wont to do.

i understand thankyou, and even if thier were any issues bafor between friends and associates causing him to walk off away from the ab+b the way he did, hes resposable for his own actions, sadly they have got to live with this for the rest of thier lives, its so sad but so common when your young socalising , the golden rule was always you go out together you come home together, just one split moment of madness and a tradagy occured, so sad .

But he was seen walking up the mountain path by a witness (a local woman, why would she lie?), he called friends to say he was lost in the mountain.

They’ve carried out a full investigation. They believe it to be an accident, based on all the information they have. What more do you think they should do?

We're in Occam's Razor territory; the obvious answer is the one most likley.

Slater was hung over and/or under the influence of drugs, lost his way and fell.

Where the body was found, its state and the results of a post mortem were consistent with that.

I don't know whether the body has been returned to the UK.

He was found in a very remote spot, down a ravine. Have you ever tried carrying a dead body many miles over inhospitable terrain, in the middle of a police search?

And he was already lost in the mountains at 8am when he rang his friends. So you think he wandered off and got lost in the mountains, found his way back and was killed, and then his body was carried back up the mountain again and chucked down a ravine? It’s not very likely is it?

Press reports today, based on UK Post Mortem and Coroner's papers, is that he fell and died from a traumatic head injury. Death instantaneous.