Understanding Jay Slater case

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Can someone explain what is known about this.
My brief understanding (and I'm possibly wrong) is that he had a scuffle and stole a Rolex outside the party he attended. Then went back to an Airbnb with two British guys he didn't know. Stayed there a couple of hours then attempted to walk back to his accommodation. Had a couple of phone calls with friends that give no particular info. The British guys are not involved (seems odd that he was with them). And JS is still missing or possibly hiding/kidnapped. Who has the Rolex?
It all sounds very convoluted and a clear picture would obviously help people understand.

Thank you.

He left the AirB&B, and was seen twice by a local.

He had a normal sounding call with Brad, during which he slipped/tripped.

And then the distressed one to Lucy. (And I agree there's ambiguity about "can't go back" which could mean either a) I'm not going near that place again, or b) I'm lost, or even c) I'm feeling really unwell (remember some cactuses contain toxins) and can't go on

Even on the assumption that he left the AirB&B because something happened there that led him to exit asap, it doesn't account for what happened after that (except perhaps the decision not to wait at a bus stop so close to it, setting off instead to walk to another).

Unless you think Brad's account is invention, it still sounds like misadventure whilst attempting to walk back. After all, he didn't seem to feel the need to hide from traffic as a local saw him from her car whilst he was walking on the road.

I am just suspicious of the speed in which a go fund me was created tbh.

I assume his family are still in Tenerife spending the money too.

I'd say that's the most normal thing about this case.

It's become the normal go to for many in these circumstances.

Sounds like human remains have been found in the area.

DM reporting that body found - believed to have suffered accident or fall
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13635765/Body-hunt-missing-teenager-Jay-Slater.html

Yes I just saw that. It is both a terrible shame, but a relief for the family (not now but in the future). People always say the not knowing is the worst.

I hate how the press release articles before the families know for definite.

So, so sad.

Maybe you will all STFU with your stupid conspiracy theories now.

How do you know what the family has or hasn't been told?

The body was found with his clothes and his possessions. That’s what his family will have been told, and that’s what the public have been told.

The official statement says that formal identification is still pending (after a body has been out in vegetation for nearly a month, I guess that'll be DNA, unless his dental records can be sent for), but it seems the body was found with Jay's clothes/possessions.

The press are only reporting the official statement - they've no jumped the gun.

The Civil Guard statement included
"Given the difficulties of the case, the discovery has been possible thanks to the constant and discreet search carried out by the Civil Guard for the last 29 days during which care was taken to ensure curious onlookers did not fill the area"

It also says that the discovery very close to where the last ping was recorded, and the initial theory is that he suffered a fall into an inaccessible area.

At least his family have closure.

This comment didn't agree well. Do you feel foolish and a bit embarrassed today? I expect the family didn't have funds to throw in jobs and buy flights etc without help.

Not the outcome anyone wanted and I hope the family get the answers and support they need.

@LindorDoubleChoc

Because it said the body hadn't been identified.

“Although Spanish police are awaiting full identification, they say that 'everything is pointing to it being' Jay, who they said could have 'suffered an accident or fall in the inaccessible area where he was found'.

The police will often inform the media with a concrete statement such as that, whilst formal identification still needs to take place they believe the remains to be that of the missing person in question and it appears their death was accidental, because there will now be a lot of activity in the area (securing the area, ambulance coming to collect the body, police scoring the area to ensure everything collected etc) and if they don’t make some sort of statement it just fuels the rumour mills on to the next theory about what’s been found and what could be happening - which is no less distressing for the family.

They know where he disappeared, will have been what told what he was wearing and what his possessions were, I can’t imagine there’s much doubt that a young man’s body found in this location in X clothing etc is him.

The Reuters article on this makes it clear that the family had been informed, and that an autopsy will shortly take place.

Spanish rescuers find remains thought to be of missing Briton Jay Slater (msn.com)

They’re as sure as they can be at this stage that it is Jay. They have told the family that they believe it to be him, and they have told the press that they believe it to be him. I’m not sure where the issue lies with that.
If they hadn’t told the press anything, the increased activity in the area (police, helicopters etc) would have lead to further speculation.

It's confirmed to be him.

I feel sorry for his family with people accusing him of doing a Karen Matthew's whether they thought his family were involved or not.

I hope that every person who stoked the conspiracy fire on this has the decency to hold their hands up. I have seen some very ghoulish Facebook groups doing the rounds - now thankfully deleted. His poor family.

Between this and Nicola Bulley, when will people learn?

I learned how easily it was to be swayed by the press at the time of the Jo Yeats murder in Bristol.

Her innocent Landlord had ''trial by media'' and I met someone who knew Christopher Jefferies and she said ''It won't be him''

I said ''Who else could it be, he had a key, and knew her boyfriend was away that weekend?''

When the correct murderer was identified, I apologised to the woman and that case really made me think of how people can be subliminally affected bt what they read or see in the press.

Christopher Jefferies was /is unimpeachable, have since met someone who was taught by him, years ago, and he said '''none of us thought {Christopher Jefferies} could possibly have been guilty of that crime''.

Trial by media is a thing.

It was obvious that a young lad, dehydrated, probably coming down from a drug or two , not wearing decent hiking boots, not dressed or equipped for the serious terrain was far more likely to have fallen than been abducted or murdered.

Hopefully the Post Mortem will show what happened.