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Why pick at spelling /grammar

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Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 12:24

Why do quite a few people not understand dyslexia and/or learning difficulties.

I do not know how to use grammar. If it does happen my phone has probably done it for me.

I do not know the difference between too, to , of and off. I get confused with they're even basic words like and ,him etc I sound them in my head as I write them even though I know how to spell them. There are lots mistakes I do but I can't see them.

People can tell me /explain but I will forget pretty much right away.

So what I don't understand Is why do many not all but many people pull up peoples spelling and grammar or they think the thread Is fake because of bad spelling.

If I feel emotional/stressed/ upset it could be worse

It sometimes comes across like there an understanding of children with dyslexia. But as am adult people seem to think it disappears.

OP posts:
Babbahabba · 23/06/2024 19:50

I've only ever highlighted people's mistakes when they're smartarses who highlight other people's. Very satisfying.

middlenglander · 23/06/2024 19:54

And some of us have English as a second language. It can be hard work too.

Actually, most second language speakers of English tend to have a better written command of it, and don't make some of the rudimentary, awful grammatical errors Brits make ("I should of", "we was"). That's exactly my point. It's because they have been taught correctly and they care about getting it right. The lack of interest and pride in having an even averagely decent level of literacy among native English speakers is a bit pathetic really (and a sign of a lack of care in other areas of their life too?).

Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 19:55

CelesteCunningham · 23/06/2024 19:23

Most people put much more effort into their writing at work than on MN. For some that will mean checking if it's your or you're at work but taking a punt online. For others it will be about punctuation, or more difficult spelling or using words of five syllables rather than three, or saying what they want in as few words as possible.

And again, proof reading. I know there Vs their and your Vs you're but sometimes it seems my fingers or my phone don't.

I agree a few weeks ago I needed to send an email . I was so confused how to word it. I could not find the words I needed
Then there was My normal shit spelling and grammar. I posted on here about it and someone helped me . I had to get that right because it was important.

But if I'm posting on here generally then I'm not going to make sure everything I post is spelt right and the grammar in right. It would take me a long time. Especially if I'm making several posts .

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middlenglander · 23/06/2024 20:00

I'm asking because to me it seems really bizarre to be able to spell and use grammar correctly in some circumstances and not in others, e.g. why would people use "they're/their" correctly in one place but not in another?

This, 100%. It makes no sense. It would be harder for me to spell things wrongly, as I would have to remember to make the mistake! It's just an excuse for poor spelling/language skills.

JC03745 · 23/06/2024 21:34

Then there was My normal shit spelling and grammar

OP, how did you know when your spelling is shite? Just wondering how you know when its fine and when its not not?

Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 21:48

JC03745 · 23/06/2024 21:34

Then there was My normal shit spelling and grammar

OP, how did you know when your spelling is shite? Just wondering how you know when its fine and when its not not?

I don't know how to explain . Sometimes I don't know. I think its right until someone tells me different. Other times I can see it's not right but I can't work it out .

The other day I was trying to spell moose (as in the food ) I know moose is not right it's a large animal. But then I want to spell it mouse . But I know that's a rodent but i left it at moose because I couldn't work lt out 😭

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JC03745 · 23/06/2024 21:57

The other day I was trying to spell moose (as in the food ) I know moose is not right it's a large animal. But then I want to spell it mouse.

I'm honestly not trying to nick pick, just trying to understand why you wouldn't google it? Even if you put in 'Moose dessert spelling'?

Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 22:07

JC03745 · 23/06/2024 21:57

The other day I was trying to spell moose (as in the food ) I know moose is not right it's a large animal. But then I want to spell it mouse.

I'm honestly not trying to nick pick, just trying to understand why you wouldn't google it? Even if you put in 'Moose dessert spelling'?

As I said earlier if I'm posting several times I would have to keep googling stuff. And it would take me a long time to post something if i had to do that over and over. Also I won't remember the spelling next time. So I would have to keep doing it... also I can't look at a word and think ah that's how it's spelt .

For example if I could not spell the word house. And I googled it . I could do the H but then I would have to switch from mn to Google another . 4 times to see each letter one at a time as I can't remember a group of letters altogether. That's a long time if i had to do it often.

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JC03745 · 23/06/2024 22:13

OP- Just so you know, the majority of your posts have used the correct grammar and have been easy to understand.

TheRubyRedshoes · 23/06/2024 22:13

@Screamingabdabz but it's instantly obvious what they mean re you're mum.

People do realise many people don't have fancy apple phones? Mine is extremely cheap bog standard phone?

I don't get red lines at all and infact I type correctly and this bastard changes it..

Also if people genuinely do not know basic stuff eg there /their /they're.... Is it their fault or our absolutely shit education system??

Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 22:20

JC03745 · 23/06/2024 22:13

OP- Just so you know, the majority of your posts have used the correct grammar and have been easy to understand.

Thank you . That will be a mix of me just knowing the spelling and my phone doing it for me. anything more my phone will be doing it for me because I don't even click on ' ," type symbols

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Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 22:23

TheRubyRedshoes · 23/06/2024 22:13

@Screamingabdabz but it's instantly obvious what they mean re you're mum.

People do realise many people don't have fancy apple phones? Mine is extremely cheap bog standard phone?

I don't get red lines at all and infact I type correctly and this bastard changes it..

Also if people genuinely do not know basic stuff eg there /their /they're.... Is it their fault or our absolutely shit education system??

That's the thing . Many people think everyone gets at least a standard education. But if you don't fit in the same box as everyone else you don't.

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TheRubyRedshoes · 23/06/2024 22:25

Even those that fit in the box don't often get it?!

Idontgetit33 · 23/06/2024 22:26

TheRubyRedshoes · 23/06/2024 22:25

Even those that fit in the box don't often get it?!

True

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theeyeofdoe · 23/06/2024 22:59

I have a good example of where poor grammar inhibits a career.

On linked in: "Carreer oppertunity". It's a professional job; no one is going to contact this person as he can't be bothered correcting the spelling mistakes.

It takes so little time to learn how to use english properly and if you can't be arsed you're unlikely to get a good job.

Boxina · 23/06/2024 23:10

TwattyMcFuckFace · 22/06/2024 22:35

If you want more understanding of dyslexia, you should try also to be understanding of your other fellow neurodivergents.

If we all just stuck to not pulling internet strangers up on their SPaG, there would be no problem.

It's different if a person actually needs clarification, but more often than not they're just being a dick.

My post started with the words "I don't point it out to people".

My point is that some neurodivergent people can't stop themselves from pointing it out because their brains work in a particular way, and they need accommodating just as much as the people whose brains mean they can't spell or construct a sentence properly.

oakleaffy · 23/06/2024 23:20

theeyeofdoe · 23/06/2024 22:59

I have a good example of where poor grammar inhibits a career.

On linked in: "Carreer oppertunity". It's a professional job; no one is going to contact this person as he can't be bothered correcting the spelling mistakes.

It takes so little time to learn how to use english properly and if you can't be arsed you're unlikely to get a good job.

Uh oh, OP..... You have been hoist by your own petard.
^^
''It takes so little time to learn how to use english properly'' - Oops, small 'e' there, when it should be ''English''.

Why pick at spelling /grammar
AllTheChaos · 23/06/2024 23:24

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 22/06/2024 17:23

Everyone knows exactly what that means. I don’t believe for one second you have to read it again to understand.

See, I would have to read it again, and did in that example. Maybe it’s because of my ADHD / ASD, but it’s something I struggle with. If something is ‘wrong’ my brain just kind of stutters and I get confused. It’s like a processing error in my brain maybe?

AllTheChaos · 23/06/2024 23:26

SlowlyForward · 22/06/2024 17:41

If people nitpick grammar and spelling it's often because they are ASD. ASD people can be really picky about this stuff, and also very lacking in the ability to understand that they are hurting other people's feelings. I know some ASD people who are unable to read without verbally drawing attention to all errors, as if they need to get it out of their system in order to read the text.

If I see someone nitpicking my writing in a really OTT way, I usually just think "LOL! ASD" and move on.

I am diagnosed ASD myself but had vision development problems as a child so my spelling in particular is a bit suspect still.

Oooh I replied to the last post before seeing your post, but this makes so much sense! Plus the vision issues and atrocious spelling - I am like that. I have a well thumbed dictionary at home (although I use my phone to check these days), but it’s good to know it’s not just me being weird!

middlenglander · 23/06/2024 23:37

You have been hoist by your own petard.

*hoisted - basic past participle, add 'ed'.

middlenglander · 23/06/2024 23:45

If people nitpick grammar and spelling it's often because they are ASD

Jesus Christ. Now you must be autistic if you care about writing your own language correctly! People have gone bonkers in Britain.

ISeriouslyDoubtIt · 23/06/2024 23:48

Also if people genuinely do not know basic stuff eg there /their /they're.... Is it their fault or our absolutely shit education system??

It's a total cop out to blame the education system for people's lack of ability to use correctly quite basic spelling and grammar. I was state school educated, so were my children as is my 10 year old grandchild. We all, including the 10 year old, know the differences between there/their/they're and no child has ever been or is ever taught that it's "could of/would of" or that the word is "rest bite" instead of "respite" for example.

Many of the spelling mistakes on this forum are ones a primary school child wouldn't make, which is why I'm disparaging about adults that make those mistakes, unless they have learning difficulties like the OP. Also it shows that the people who make those mistakes must never read a book or newspaper otherwise they'd know how to spell basic words. Google a look at a year 5 or 6 list of spellings and you'll see what primary school children should know.

oakleaffy · 23/06/2024 23:50

middlenglander · 23/06/2024 23:37

You have been hoist by your own petard.

*hoisted - basic past participle, add 'ed'.

Hoist is not incorrect.
I'm merely pointing out the poetic justice of someone who mocks another's spelling and grammar, yet spells ''English'' with a lower case 'e'.

middlenglander · 23/06/2024 23:51

I was state school educated

Me too. The state in a highly developed and rich country is perfectly capable of teaching basic literacy to its citizens. It's just whether those citizens are paying attention.

TwattyMcFuckFace · 23/06/2024 23:51

Boxina · 23/06/2024 23:10

My post started with the words "I don't point it out to people".

My point is that some neurodivergent people can't stop themselves from pointing it out because their brains work in a particular way, and they need accommodating just as much as the people whose brains mean they can't spell or construct a sentence properly.

I disagree.

I'm pretty sure they could hide the thread or just log off if they were really struggling.

Particularly if they're aware it's against talk guidelines.