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Why pick at spelling /grammar

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Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 12:24

Why do quite a few people not understand dyslexia and/or learning difficulties.

I do not know how to use grammar. If it does happen my phone has probably done it for me.

I do not know the difference between too, to , of and off. I get confused with they're even basic words like and ,him etc I sound them in my head as I write them even though I know how to spell them. There are lots mistakes I do but I can't see them.

People can tell me /explain but I will forget pretty much right away.

So what I don't understand Is why do many not all but many people pull up peoples spelling and grammar or they think the thread Is fake because of bad spelling.

If I feel emotional/stressed/ upset it could be worse

It sometimes comes across like there an understanding of children with dyslexia. But as am adult people seem to think it disappears.

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JC03745 · 22/06/2024 13:33

It makes it very difficult to understand the OP's question when there are multiple spelling mistakes. They can change the entire context of the question and I too find it jarring/confusing to read. Mistakes almost jump from the page in bold to me. I wouldn't correct someone on MN, but might ask them to clarify if they mean XYZ or ABC.

Crinkle77 · 22/06/2024 13:37

CelesteCunningham · 22/06/2024 12:44

Most people are using phones or tablets on MN, so no they won't get the red lines (which aren't always correct anyway). Autocorrect can help, but also hinder.

People are typing on MN while they're living their real lives - making the dinner, folding the laundry, on hold with the insurance company etc. They're not lazy, they're busy and distracted more often than not I'd guess.

Yes this! It's easy to make a mistake on a phone and it's just social media so doesn't matter as much as it would in work. I make mistakes all the time when I'm using phone but I can't leave them as it annoys me and have to go and edit them.

oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 13:38

Marynotsocontrary · 22/06/2024 13:10

I'm afraid I also judge leaflets (advertising various services) when they contain spelling or grammar mistakes.

I just think if the person's attention to detail isn't very good in one area it might be the same in another. I understand not everyone's good at spelling, but they should get extra help to ensure their advertisement is right in that case.

It's probably not very fair but I'm not willing to risk sloppy workmanship!

My son is self employed and really skilled at what he does - His spelling can be a little awry ( Dyslexia) - Just because someone may not be perfect at spelling does not mean that their work might be sloppy!
That’s just absurd.
@Idontgetit33 I agree with you.

soupfiend · 22/06/2024 13:40

oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 13:38

My son is self employed and really skilled at what he does - His spelling can be a little awry ( Dyslexia) - Just because someone may not be perfect at spelling does not mean that their work might be sloppy!
That’s just absurd.
@Idontgetit33 I agree with you.

Presumably though if he produces any written material like leaflets or a website or invoices, he has someone else check them so that they make sense to the customer?

Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 13:46

JC03745 · 22/06/2024 13:33

It makes it very difficult to understand the OP's question when there are multiple spelling mistakes. They can change the entire context of the question and I too find it jarring/confusing to read. Mistakes almost jump from the page in bold to me. I wouldn't correct someone on MN, but might ask them to clarify if they mean XYZ or ABC.

Oh 100% it would not he offended or bother me if someone said I don't understand what you mean. Do you Mean xyz or abc . That's just trying to understand the situation.

The jarring bit I kind of get. But I don't think it should nesserly be pointed out just because its annoying the person who wrote it probably struggled to get it written down .

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MinervaMcGonagallsCat · 22/06/2024 13:47

Some people are just obnoxious knobs. It's that simple really.

Lkjhgdsrtgbjjm · 22/06/2024 13:47

Oh my, I didn't realise it was so upsetting for some people to read Mumsnet posts that have spelling and grammar mistakes. My heart bleeds for them. They must be in a near permanent state of stress. One thing that might help would be for them to try really hard to remember this is an internet chat forum and nothing more.

theeyeofdoe · 22/06/2024 14:52

Lkjhgdsrtgbjjm · 22/06/2024 13:28

As this thread shows you can be good at SPAG but still come across as very thick. 😅

OP, don't worry about it.

No it doesn't.

Marynotsocontrary · 22/06/2024 16:27

oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 13:38

My son is self employed and really skilled at what he does - His spelling can be a little awry ( Dyslexia) - Just because someone may not be perfect at spelling does not mean that their work might be sloppy!
That’s just absurd.
@Idontgetit33 I agree with you.

As I said upthread it's not actually the poor spelling that's the issue at all. My DS has dyslexia too, so I understand how difficult it can be.

In the particular circumstances I described, the issue I have is that the person designing the leaflet/advertisment seemingly can't be bothered to get an important piece of work checked to make sure it's okay.

That's the sloppy bit - the not checking part. Having literally nothing else to go on, I can only assume their work could be marked by the same carelessness.

SemperIdem · 22/06/2024 16:52

Unless something is genuinely confusing because of the spelling and grammar used, most people can work it out. Asking for clarification is one thing, “correcting” someone is something else entirely.

Spelling and grammar does matter but this is an internet forum not a professional setting. It doesn’t matter as much here and I’d personally rather not make someone who has dyslexia or a learning difficulty feel shit about themselves just to prove a pretty petty point.

EasterlyDirection · 22/06/2024 17:02

Screamingabdabz · 22/06/2024 12:59

It’s jarring that’s why. When I read ‘why don’t you say something to you’re mum?’ it makes no sense whatsoever. I have to go back and realise they mean ‘your mum’.

And it’s not like adults can’t learn. They are fairly simple rules. If you can learn to drive or use a washing machine, you can learn to spell common words and the difference between similar ones.

I personally think it’s important. Not necessarily on MN all the time, but generally in society.

It is also simple to learn that when someone uses you're in that context they very obviously mean your.

Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 17:19

SemperIdem · 22/06/2024 16:52

Unless something is genuinely confusing because of the spelling and grammar used, most people can work it out. Asking for clarification is one thing, “correcting” someone is something else entirely.

Spelling and grammar does matter but this is an internet forum not a professional setting. It doesn’t matter as much here and I’d personally rather not make someone who has dyslexia or a learning difficulty feel shit about themselves just to prove a pretty petty point.

I agree thing is people don't know when someone has dyslexia or other learning difficulties. And yes to asking in order understand is very different to a dig

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 22/06/2024 17:23

Screamingabdabz · 22/06/2024 12:59

It’s jarring that’s why. When I read ‘why don’t you say something to you’re mum?’ it makes no sense whatsoever. I have to go back and realise they mean ‘your mum’.

And it’s not like adults can’t learn. They are fairly simple rules. If you can learn to drive or use a washing machine, you can learn to spell common words and the difference between similar ones.

I personally think it’s important. Not necessarily on MN all the time, but generally in society.

Everyone knows exactly what that means. I don’t believe for one second you have to read it again to understand.

oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 17:35

Lkjhgdsrtgbjjm · 22/06/2024 13:47

Oh my, I didn't realise it was so upsetting for some people to read Mumsnet posts that have spelling and grammar mistakes. My heart bleeds for them. They must be in a near permanent state of stress. One thing that might help would be for them to try really hard to remember this is an internet chat forum and nothing more.

Probably have to take a month off work and lie in a darkened room with a cold compress on their foreheads due to the stress of seeing a misspelled word.

Context, like when people call ''Reins'' {for horses} 'Reigns' is common, as is the good old standby ''Could of'' instead of ''could have'' .

That will be at least six months off because of stress.

CelesteCunningham · 22/06/2024 17:36

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oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 17:36

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 22/06/2024 17:23

Everyone knows exactly what that means. I don’t believe for one second you have to read it again to understand.

Absolutely. The example quoted is simple to understand, even with a ''fudge for brains'' person.

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:40

Dyslexic too and it pisses me right off when sanctimonious pricks get on their high horses about spelling and grammar in a post.

Your nitpicking doesn’t detract from the validity of the post you’re criticising. It just makes you look like a petty twat who’s lost the argument and has nothing of value left to say.

SlowlyForward · 22/06/2024 17:41

If people nitpick grammar and spelling it's often because they are ASD. ASD people can be really picky about this stuff, and also very lacking in the ability to understand that they are hurting other people's feelings. I know some ASD people who are unable to read without verbally drawing attention to all errors, as if they need to get it out of their system in order to read the text.

If I see someone nitpicking my writing in a really OTT way, I usually just think "LOL! ASD" and move on.

I am diagnosed ASD myself but had vision development problems as a child so my spelling in particular is a bit suspect still.

Lovetotravel123 · 22/06/2024 17:52

I have full sympathy for those who are dyslexic and for that reason I don’t correct people. That said, I am surprised that a lot of people just aren’t interested in learning correct spelling and grammar. It’s then not really surprising that children can’t spell either. All of us should be willing to learn. I do realise that it isn’t easy for some. We shouldn’t take corrections as an insult and instead take them as an opportunity to improve. Anyone is welcome to correct anything that I have written!

AmelieTaylor · 22/06/2024 17:55

Lovetotravel123 · 22/06/2024 17:52

I have full sympathy for those who are dyslexic and for that reason I don’t correct people. That said, I am surprised that a lot of people just aren’t interested in learning correct spelling and grammar. It’s then not really surprising that children can’t spell either. All of us should be willing to learn. I do realise that it isn’t easy for some. We shouldn’t take corrections as an insult and instead take them as an opportunity to improve. Anyone is welcome to correct anything that I have written!

@Lovetotravel123

I have full sympathy for those who are dyslexic and for that reason I don’t correct people

there you go, fixed it for you!!

Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 17:59

oakleaffy · 22/06/2024 17:35

Probably have to take a month off work and lie in a darkened room with a cold compress on their foreheads due to the stress of seeing a misspelled word.

Context, like when people call ''Reins'' {for horses} 'Reigns' is common, as is the good old standby ''Could of'' instead of ''could have'' .

That will be at least six months off because of stress.

I would spell it rains ... that's another 3 months on top now 😅

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Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 18:06

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:40

Dyslexic too and it pisses me right off when sanctimonious pricks get on their high horses about spelling and grammar in a post.

Your nitpicking doesn’t detract from the validity of the post you’re criticising. It just makes you look like a petty twat who’s lost the argument and has nothing of value left to say.

Yes totally agree. Sometimes for myself. I like the post to stay so others can see how silly they are

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AGodawfulsmallaffair · 22/06/2024 18:09

StormingNorman · 22/06/2024 17:40

Dyslexic too and it pisses me right off when sanctimonious pricks get on their high horses about spelling and grammar in a post.

Your nitpicking doesn’t detract from the validity of the post you’re criticising. It just makes you look like a petty twat who’s lost the argument and has nothing of value left to say.

Very nicely put!

AGodawfulsmallaffair · 22/06/2024 18:10

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Indeed!

SemperIdem · 22/06/2024 18:19

Idontgetit33 · 22/06/2024 17:19

I agree thing is people don't know when someone has dyslexia or other learning difficulties. And yes to asking in order understand is very different to a dig

Unless you’re posting in Pedants Corner, I take the view that posters need support in a far more meaningful way than their spelling and grammar.

It’s quite frankly horrible to respond to someone who is worried about something with a criticism about their spelling/grammar. It suggests a real lack of emotional intelligence.

I’ve been on MN years now and seen op’s criticised for grammar on such desperately sad posts during that time. I sometimes wonder if it’s trolls, to be honest.