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Thread 4 - Michael Mosley

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Aquarius1234 · 09/06/2024 09:32

Body found and identified.

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Seaitoverthere · 09/06/2024 10:15

Incredibly sad and my thoughts are with his family.

I had a pre op recently for surgery I needed to lose some weight for and have now lost what I needed to. His work bringing fasting to public awareness has helped that and I am very grateful.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:15

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:04

Not a conspiracy. Just an agreement by journalists not to publish the story until 9am today. Really not that unusual!

If course there could be an agreement but that wouldn't involve everyone on the acene outright lying about the timeline would it?

There's video of the searchers finding the body, the mayor has explained what happened, I'd be absolutely staggered if we find out it's all a lie

hattie43 · 09/06/2024 10:15

Expected but very sad

MattDamon · 09/06/2024 10:16

Zonder · 09/06/2024 10:14

And yet another report says the body was found at 10.30 this morning so that doesn't fit with your comment.

It was definitely this morning. They wouldn't leave the body there all night.

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 09/06/2024 10:16

ITV news stated that he was found next to a fence, and as a pp said, very close to the marina, and close to safety. (Like 30 feet away!) But he clearly didn't know how close he was. They said that he very likely died from heat stroke, and exhaustion. Probably under-estimated how severe the heat actually was. How desperately tragic that he was so close to safety. What a terrible thing to happen. R.I.P. Sad

I won't be posting anything else about him now. Nothing else to say, except what a tragic loss of a lovely, intelligent man. 😢

My thoughts go out to his family, and I'm praying for them at this difficult time.

FloofPaws · 09/06/2024 10:18

🥺🌹

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:18

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:04

Not a conspiracy. Just an agreement by journalists not to publish the story until 9am today. Really not that unusual!

So again, why is everyone there lying about it?

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2024 10:20

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:00

But that would involve a major conspiracy amongst the people actually there filming the body being found

Did the mayor and all the UK journalists all decide to take part in some strange conspiracy? Was Twitter also silenced?

For what purpose?

Bollocks.

coffeandteav · 09/06/2024 10:20

The man who found him has just been on sky. So very very sad.

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:21

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:18

So again, why is everyone there lying about it?

Oh go away.

greengreyblue · 09/06/2024 10:21

But he wasn’t found in the Abyss. He was found on a cliff path to the Marina wasn’t he? Where was their accommodation anyway?

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:22

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:21

Oh go away.

Why? Because you can't just accept that you were wrong? Anyone can post here, we dont need your permission to question blatant nonsense

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 09/06/2024 10:23

I can't stop thinking about it. When I had heatstroke I was slipping unconscious but knew I had to get to water to cool off and managed to get my strength to stagger while trying not to faint. The thought of him being so close to both the sea and a beachside bar but stuck on the wrong side of a fence is really heartbreaking. He was so close to safety.

PuppyMonkey · 09/06/2024 10:24
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ageratum1 · 09/06/2024 10:25

The photos on Greek news sites show his body ar the bottom of a rocky slope close to but not against a wire fence.Looks like a fall to me.
Terribly sad

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:25

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:22

Why? Because you can't just accept that you were wrong? Anyone can post here, we dont need your permission to question blatant nonsense

Because you’re looking for reasons to turn a really sad event into a mysterious conspiracy, for your own entertainment. It’s disgusting. I repeat, go away.

TheUsualChaos · 09/06/2024 10:26

So sad, he seemed a genuinely lovely man. There were no updates last night and previously they had been saying he was still missing so it seemed inevitable this would be the update today 😔
It sounds like he just slipped and fell?

Jaichangecentfoisdenom · 09/06/2024 10:27

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2024 09:54

That poster is potentially very astute.

I say often on here that you should look for the silences and omissions in reporting or statements as they are often as revealing as what's said.

Given the public interest on the story, you would typically expect every single detail and update on the search whilst that lasted. This would gradually slow to nothing as the next news story took over. But what happened was a report about a new search and then a sudden silence and no new big public interest story.

It really wouldn't at all surprise me if he was found yesterday and there was grace period for the family. The news broke this morning just after 9am UK time - ideal for media reporting too.

We don't know as yet if this is the case, but I do think it was fair comment by that poster. It's an observation of how news reporting follows a pattern.

We're watching Greek TV here, and to the best of my understanding, ERT 2 was the TV company which went out in a boat with cameras this morning to have a look along the shoreline where the searchers were intending to go today. I think someone spotted what might be a body and when they reviewed the film they'd taken this morning, they saw it and it has now been confirmed to be Michael Mosley. From looking at the terrain, it seems it is most likely that he fell by accident, maybe as the result of the heat, fainting, or a heart attack, and died instantly.
RIP a good man.

SallyWD · 09/06/2024 10:29

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 09/06/2024 10:23

I can't stop thinking about it. When I had heatstroke I was slipping unconscious but knew I had to get to water to cool off and managed to get my strength to stagger while trying not to faint. The thought of him being so close to both the sea and a beachside bar but stuck on the wrong side of a fence is really heartbreaking. He was so close to safety.

It's very upsetting but I'm trying not to dwell on this. Hoping he fell and hit his head or passed out or had a heart attack and it was all over very quickly.

Sunnyandsilly · 09/06/2024 10:29

I think some folks are going too far on speculating. I saw someone also on the other thread saying he fell.

the news outlets are being very clear, the body was unharmed, and he had been dead a number of days sadly, as such likely a heart attack or he did something, but if he fell from a height the body would be harmed

rip dr mosely,

Longma · 09/06/2024 10:31

QforCucumber · 09/06/2024 09:49

@Wynterbun there were 3 of us who mentioned about them stopping reporting - and yup very much shot down 🤦🏽‍♀️
sadly, when you’ve worked in these situations you tend to realise that when things stop it’s often for a reason

awfully sad for him and his family. What an absolute waste of a life, and I can absolutely imagine my husband doing the same so very relatable situation.

Edited

That clearly wasn't the reason though it seems, as he was not found until this morning.
I suspect the news slowed down as it was evening and dark, and the search had slowed. There was simply no new updates to post.

Wildehorses · 09/06/2024 10:31

I am a broadcast journalist, utter nonsense claims about holding off reporting etc … there were no updates last night as Symi is two hours ahead, was in pitch darkness so there was nothing to report … zero conspiracy around that 🙄this all happened this morning and was reported as soon as possible (probably just after family was informed) … previous posters have no idea of how journalism works! RIP to the good doctor, such a sad day for his family

RedToothBrush · 09/06/2024 10:32

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:22

Why? Because you can't just accept that you were wrong? Anyone can post here, we dont need your permission to question blatant nonsense

No. Because it's a common pattern in media reporting to embargo news stories.

There is an informal twitter service run by a group of BBC reporters called tomorrow papers today.

They publish the front cover story before publication.

I've seen on occasion certain stories or photos deliberately blacked out.

It's also not uncommon practice to get a story and sit on it whilst trying to get 'exclusives' with family members or celebrities in exchange for not publishing sooner under the guise of being nice.

You also have issues with fact verification (BBC often delay publication for this pending getting reputable sources). Or for what are deemed ethical reasons (some media outlets have considerable less concern for this. I will make the note here that if you are a media outlet who employs someone then you may have greater cause to do this because of the impact on the rest of your staff too).

In this particular case, it is a very small island with a lot less ability to get sources than some other stories as a result of that.

To start talking about it being a conspiracy that things are not published immediately is not how the media works. It's a lot less common than it used to be due to social media but it does still happen in a small number of cases.

It's possible the tragic discovery was today, but I also would not be surprised to learn it was yesterday. Both are viable.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/06/2024 10:32

BudgetQ · 09/06/2024 10:25

Because you’re looking for reasons to turn a really sad event into a mysterious conspiracy, for your own entertainment. It’s disgusting. I repeat, go away.

You were the one suggesting that it had been kept quiet for a day, I and others have pointed out that didn't happen. There is enough confusion without making sure obviously wrong speculation isn't corrected

Sunnyandsilly · 09/06/2024 10:32

IdisagreeMrHochhauser · 09/06/2024 10:23

I can't stop thinking about it. When I had heatstroke I was slipping unconscious but knew I had to get to water to cool off and managed to get my strength to stagger while trying not to faint. The thought of him being so close to both the sea and a beachside bar but stuck on the wrong side of a fence is really heartbreaking. He was so close to safety.

please stop. Making stuff up. His location maybe irrelevant and it maybe nothing to do with heatstroke.

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