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What age to insist reluctant child learns to swim?

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Upminster12 · 04/06/2024 13:38

DD has just turned 5, end of Reception. She hates going in swimming pools. I took her as a baby but then COVID happened and by the time we could go back she was 2 and she had such a strong aversion it was basically a phobia. I spent a long time sitting her on the edge of a pool, dangling her legs in then working up to her going in the pool with me carrying her all the time. Gradually things have improved and she will go in but she always wants me close, holding her hand etc.

I want her to learn to swim, it doesn't have to be right now but I'm wondering if there is any point leaving it much longer or whether I should "force" her to take lessons. She REALLY doesn't want to and I can forsee tantrums. But I don't know what else I can do myself, I'm an average swimmer not confident to teach her. I was quoted £60 per hour for individual lessons which is out of the question for me. There are leisure centre classes available locally but I'm worried it will be a disaster. What's the way forward here?

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Upminster12 · 04/06/2024 19:02

NeverDropYourMooncup · 04/06/2024 18:18

Water on the head/face/eyes - that's what she's afraid of/hates.

DD1 spent so long tearing chunks out of my arms/chest/face/neck and screeching because she was convinced a single move would result in a drop of water touching her face. Eventually got her to tolerate water at the hairdresser aged 6 because she could see that it couldn't get her with the headrest sink and then she eventually agreed to stand in the baby pool whilst I pegged it off after her 2 year old sister who took every opportunity of my being clawed at to head for the deep end and throw herself in when she got to 7.

She finally tried moving in the water (holding the side, goggles, only ever up to her chest) when I had a gym membership with a 5m pool that was deserted at 8am on Saturdays, which got her as far as putting the back of her head into the water at 9 and sort of doggy paddled by the time she was 11. She spent the 6 primary school swimming sessions sitting on the side ready to collapse if anybody splashed near her.

She hated water from the instant she was born, so getting her that far was an achievement (it's not as if I didn't try consistently from birth) - and no, nobody would take her for lessons, not even private 1-2-1 ones.

Oh no! Thank you for identifying the problem though, that makes sense and gives me something to work on.

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FKAT · 04/06/2024 19:07

VJBR · 04/06/2024 17:26

There was a story in the last few days about a 9 year old drowning on holiday. Last year a little girl at a splash park for a birthday party. It wasn’t even a swimming pool. You can’t afford to be complacent.

That's awful but probably not an immediate concern for a 5 year old who won't go near water unless she is clinging to her mother's side.

NotARealWookiie · 04/06/2024 19:21

How is she in the summer with paddling pools and splash pads? Could you get her loving it with that? What about a fun pool with a gentle sloped rather than a full on swimming pool?

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1AngelicFruitCake · 04/06/2024 19:30

TopBun · 04/06/2024 17:15

I know you will probably think I’m a terrible parent, but mine was the same at 4 years old. I just told her that swimming was essential, took her to lessons (class ones) and left them to it. By the third lesson she was fine. I was told not to hang around and watch her, as it would make her more likely to play up.

I was the same. One of mine cried at the age of 4, worried about it etc. I’m quite soft when it comes to my children but I insisted they went. The swimming teacher told me I needed to take them at other times as well (I was very indignant and thought ‘When?!’ but he was right and I’m glad I made them go to lessons and took them for fun.

powershowerforanhour · 04/06/2024 19:41

"took her ourselves using a learn to swim book that had simple milestones that started with wearing googles in the shower then bath to get used to water on face. Then in a very shallow pool, finding buoyancy by walking on hands with face under, doing a "star float" with face under then gliding across the pool with face under.."

Do you remember the name of the book BeccaBean?

QueenImprov · 04/06/2024 19:50

My daughter was very similar and couldn't manage normal lessons. We signed her up for a group water confidence class and the difference in her after just a few classes has been amazing!

Painauraison · 04/06/2024 20:02

1AngelicFruitCake · 04/06/2024 19:30

I was the same. One of mine cried at the age of 4, worried about it etc. I’m quite soft when it comes to my children but I insisted they went. The swimming teacher told me I needed to take them at other times as well (I was very indignant and thought ‘When?!’ but he was right and I’m glad I made them go to lessons and took them for fun.

Yes a skill that could save their life, we started at 3 and a bit of tough love.

Previousreligion · 04/06/2024 20:12

ruby1957 · 04/06/2024 16:31

Absolutely this - when I was young many decades ago learning to swim was very much a 'do it if you want to' but it was not on the curriculum - so most of us rural children never did pursue the 'must learn to swim' as a life skill that seems to affect everybody now.
Those that were keen to swim and good at it - learned as they were older not in primary school.

Adults if they want to can learn to swim at any age - it is not the be all and end all for life.

It could also be said that not being able to swim means you have far more respect for water outside the safety of the swimming pool.

Given the opportunity most people learn to swim a bit - why the pressure to do it at school at a very young age. .

I agree with this too.

I can swim, but I have always hated it. I'm not afraid, but I get cold so quickly, even at places like Center Parcs! I'd quite happily never swim again.

BeccaBean · 04/06/2024 20:28

powershowerforanhour · 04/06/2024 19:41

"took her ourselves using a learn to swim book that had simple milestones that started with wearing googles in the shower then bath to get used to water on face. Then in a very shallow pool, finding buoyancy by walking on hands with face under, doing a "star float" with face under then gliding across the pool with face under.."

Do you remember the name of the book BeccaBean?

@powershowerforanhour

Just looked it up. It's called Learn to Swim by Benjamin Roberts. Really resonated with us and worked brilliantly for my then 5 year old DD. Highly recommend.

cannonballz · 04/06/2024 20:30

why does it matter if she never swims? Most people who drown are swimmers

jannepp · 04/06/2024 20:59

I know you say you couldn't afford one to one lessons, but that was what made the difference for my DD. It's expensive but she made so much better progress compared to group lessons, and you could switch to group lessons after a term or 2 once she built up confidence.

Do you have any fun leisure pools nearby? We take our toddler to a nice council pool with a very shallow bit, with sprinklers, slide etc, it only comes up to my calves so not deep at all. But it's great for water confidence.

If the pool temp is cold I'd get a wetsuit - we always give our dcs wetsuits for most pools as they have reduced the temperature with higher energy prices. And decent goggles made a big difference for DD.

WestAtlantic · 04/06/2024 21:12

kitsuneghost · 04/06/2024 13:50

Just keep going with her. maybe twice a week and gradually hold her/ be next to her less and less. 5 is a little old not to swim but better she takes longer in this instance to gain confidence. so maybe worry a little less about age in your circumstances

It's really not that old except in fairly affluent, motivated circles where a lot of children go to baby swimming lessons and continue from there. Most children in Stage 1 are 4 or 5 and a great number of children never attend swimming lessons at all.

KvotheTheBloodless · 04/06/2024 21:20

We ended up paying for individual lessons, which was 100% the right decision - group classes aren't great for anxious kids, or during stages 1 & 2 when they just don't get enough actual swimming time in a group setting, they spend most of it sitting on the side waiting their turn.

It usually doesn't take ages of 121s before they're ready to join a group, and it's well worth doing if you can possibly find the money. 121 beginner's lessons are usually 30 mins max.

Hall84 · 04/06/2024 21:20

I'm only a page in but have you looked at swim! They offer a free trial. Parents wait in the lounge whilst the children swim. We've been going for about a year and in that time (we're now in swim2) have seen multiple children start absolutely adamant they will not get in the water move on to jumping in independently. Some take longer than others but the approach they use seems to work. Classes are limited to 6 and because parents are behind a glass window they seem to copy each other.

Harrysmummy246 · 05/06/2024 09:27

Non negotiable life skill. DS started at 5 when a slot eventually came free. Nearly 7 now, can swim 10m and now enjoys as he's making progress.

WitchWithoutChips · 05/06/2024 11:53

Upminster12 · 04/06/2024 13:54

The problem is I've been taking her regularly since she was 3, she will go in but she absolutely hates it. Perhaps I could leave it a bit longer if yr4/6 are the targets.

My year 1 DC has school swimming this term. Some schools take them very early.

RampantKrampus · 05/06/2024 11:59

Start taking her to fun family sessions regularly. She can do lessons when she feels more comfortable in the water.

My eldest (5, almost 6) has learned to swim independently in the last few months just because we go every week without fail as a family. He started out with a float vest which we gradually removed floats from. He hasn’t worn it at all for a couple of months and swims underwater etc now. He was terrified of swimming without aids this time last year. Our youngest has also made massive progress.

parkrun500club · 05/06/2024 12:38

My ds didn't like the water either but then he went to a water park with his childminder when he'd just turned 5 and was buzzing so I seized the moment and enrolled him in lessons. He carried on until he went to university and works as a lifeguard in the summer holidays now.

5 isn't late to learn to swim, there are loads of children who start later, not least because their parents work full time and can't take them to the baby swimming lessons etc. Or because they can't afford it.

If you have some sort of water park/leisure pool near you that might be a good starting point. Or find a small warm pool. Our local pool is freezing!

parkrun500club · 05/06/2024 12:41

cannonballz · 04/06/2024 20:30

why does it matter if she never swims? Most people who drown are swimmers

This is true, but it is a gateway to leisure activities like sailing, kayaking, rookie lifeguarding, swimming with a club etc as well as being able to go to pool birthday parties.

I agree it's not a "life skill" in terms of life saving, but it is definitely useful for lots of hobbies.

PuttingDownRoots · 05/06/2024 12:49

parkrun500club · 05/06/2024 12:41

This is true, but it is a gateway to leisure activities like sailing, kayaking, rookie lifeguarding, swimming with a club etc as well as being able to go to pool birthday parties.

I agree it's not a "life skill" in terms of life saving, but it is definitely useful for lots of hobbies.

A child/teen who is scared of swimming pools is unlikely to want to do those things.
People who enjoy swimming do those things.

Would you say someone who is scared of heights needs to get over it as rock climbing is a fun hobby?

(Yes the child needs to learn water safety... but not for leisure reasons!)

Abouttimeforanamechange · 05/06/2024 16:36

(Yes the child needs to learn water safety... but not for leisure reasons!)

And the RNLI safety advice is that if you get into difficulty in the water, the best thing to do is not to try to swim, but to float.

Float To Live – What To Do In An Emergency – RNLI

LongIslander · 05/06/2024 16:44

PuttingDownRoots · 05/06/2024 12:49

A child/teen who is scared of swimming pools is unlikely to want to do those things.
People who enjoy swimming do those things.

Would you say someone who is scared of heights needs to get over it as rock climbing is a fun hobby?

(Yes the child needs to learn water safety... but not for leisure reasons!)

Exactly. I can't swim, and I cannot begin to tell you how unlikely it is that I will take up kayaking or windsurfing.

parkrun500club · 05/06/2024 16:49

Would you say someone who is scared of heights needs to get over it as rock climbing is a fun hobby

much easier to avoid! I don't think kids of 8 tend to have rock climbing parties, do they :)

Anyway my point was that people say it's a life (saving) skill. It isn't. Water safety is, but that's completely different.

queenofthewild · 05/06/2024 17:05

I was a really unconfident swimmer. First lesson I went to was a horrible old school shouty teacher. Pushed the kids in and assumed instinct would take over. It didn't and I had to be fished out with a stick. Obviously I refused to go back.

My poor mother tried signing me up for so many lessons before I had the confidence to even get in. The memories of the smell and the noise at the pool were overwhelming. Eventually she found a lovely small, quiet, warm pool and a gentle teacher and I loved going. I'm still not a great swimmer, but I enjoy swimming as an adult.

Young children don't have much meat on them, so pools can feel extra cold, especially if they aren't actively swimming.

Are you able to find a hotel pool you could visit with her for a few tries? They tend to be warmer, quieter and less chlorinated. Go along for a splash about. No intention to swim. You could take along a ping pong ball and encourage her to blow it along the water while you hold her so that she gets used to having her face close to the water. See how you get on with that for a few weeks or even months before you try lessons again. You'll get there, but desensitising her may be key.

WestAtlantic · 05/06/2024 20:26

parkrun500club · 05/06/2024 16:49

Would you say someone who is scared of heights needs to get over it as rock climbing is a fun hobby

much easier to avoid! I don't think kids of 8 tend to have rock climbing parties, do they :)

Anyway my point was that people say it's a life (saving) skill. It isn't. Water safety is, but that's completely different.

Edited

I teach Y3/4 and yes of course they sometimes have climbing parties. There are climbing walls all over the place. No it's not outdoors but it's still at height!