Do men have it harder than women with somethings

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Just that i was having a chat to day with someone i know and she said yes men do get a rough time now.
I aske give a reason you think that she said this.

A single young woman went to her housing office afew weeks ago and claimed homelessness she was places in a b&b and giving 56 days to bid on a home and banding will go up to band B.
A single young man came in 2 days later same issue working etc he was told all they can do is give him a sleeping bag and a tent his banding wont go up due to no high needs.
She said both cases were the same both single both working min wage.
But got treated very different.
I was a bit shocked i said well this dont happen much she said it happens more than we know.
After a catch up it got me thinking do some men have it harder than some women.
I know on MN they do but in real life do we not see it as much.
I have to almost adult boys and i think what would i feel like if someone gave them a tent because they are well just men.

So all the men who died in the Somme deserved it?

Says more about you men are still human and we cant blame all men for what the last man did.

Yes, I expect some things are harder for some men, those who are poor, with mental illness and living a precarious life They are both incredibly vulnerable and despised for that vulnerability. No dignity and no charity. It's a shitty double whammy.

Have been a radical feminist since I was a young girl. But, having a teenage son (after an older daughter) I can definitely see some ways in which boys have it harder. While NOT denying all the ways in which they have it easier.

My son is sensitive and kind, and loves to chat. He was recently hurt by a girl (normal teen stuff) and has found that none of his male friends are willing or able to do or say anything other than ‘bro’, and expect him to move on. They don’t want to hear any emoting of any kind. I contrasted this with the experiences of my daughter when she broke up with her boyfriend - endless chats and dissemination re what went wrong, pep talks re how she’s worth so much more, and her friends rallied round unfailingly to help her get over it all.

I also see the pressure boys are still under the make the first move with girls - and the risks of rejection that entails, esp when they are young and v insecure. Girls my son has come into contact with have very strict ‘non-negotiables’ when it comes to boys’ looks - they need to have a ‘jawline’ and ‘fluffy hair’, and boys’ height is an overriding factor for them. Difficult for the more vertically challenged, who already feel written off!

Of COURSE girls have it worse when it comes to beauty standards/ pressures. I’m just saying that it’s not as easy for boys as it probably was in my day.

And of course the patriarchy and male conditioning is ultimately to blame for men’s inability/ unwillingness to express emotions (no, not all men) but this isn’t down to my 14yr old son. Or any other young boys.

The woman was given a b and b place and the man was given a tent because of rape, happy to explain anything else that's confusing.

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I'm a man and I actually hope this is the case - while I've been a victim of violence from a woman, I know that by far and away women would be far more 'at risk' if left on the streets, so it stands to reason they'd be more likely to receive emergency accommodation.

The rest of my views, while perfectly reasonable, will only rile up the 'it's all men's fault' trolls, so I'll keep them to myself - but yes, in some areas men do have things a little more difficult.
Contrary to belief, not all men are women-beating psychopaths and as a result a lot of us are treated with contempt by many women without any justification.

Yes men have a harder time understanding WTH is really going on a lot of the time and the general difficulties associated with being a less evolved life form. Sorry...I'm bitter and twisted 😭

I also see the pressure boys are still under the make the first move with girls - and the risks of rejection that entails, esp when they are young and v insecure.

@WomensRightsRenegade my DD has been asked out a couple of times (at 13 FFS) by boys. When we talk about it the message is "say no firmly but you know what, they were brave so don't be mean".

That is ridiculous - the ones who are suffering didn't invent it

but to put it bluntly, a man on the street is more at risk of murder than a woman on the street.

@cannonballz @
That is ridiculous - the ones who are suffering didn't invent it"

No they didn't. But men collectively aren't doing anything to change things.

@cannonballz "but to put it bluntly, a man on the street is more at risk of murder than a woman on the street."

A man is very unlikely to be murdered. A woman is very likely to be raped or sexually assaulted.

a man on the street is more at risk of murder than a woman on the street.

I'm not sure that's true if you correct for the numbers that are on the street. Sex work is one of the most dangerous jobs you can do and it's common with addiction and homelessness. PTSD like Vietnam veterans and very dangerous. Sex-based violence is recognised to be extremely common. You need a man if you are on the street as a woman so you have to accept one bad man over 20 strange men. Almost all the women I know who've lived rough have head injuries from abuse and male violence.

Rape is built into sex work so there's that as well.

Is that true? I didn't know that. I'll have to read up on it...

@Deathbyfluffy "The rest of my views, while perfectly reasonable, will only rile up the 'it's all men's fault' trolls, so I'll keep them to myself - but yes, in some areas men do have things a little more difficult.
Contrary to belief, not all men are women-beating psychopaths and as a result a lot of us are treated with contempt by many women without any justification."
Well, ignoring your passive aggressive generalizations (I've had a lot of years practice at doing that!) what's your solution? How do we get to a place where women don't have to consider that any man might be a "woman beating psychopath" at worst or at the very least likely to speak/act inappropriately in some way? A place where women don't have to be wary?

I just can't relate to the 'all men are to blame' stuff.
Personally, I think that both good women and men need to unite to change the system. It's ruling men who set up the system; not all men. Working class men were also denied the vote for most of history.
I just like nice kind people. It doesn't matter to me whether they're male or female when I'm deciding whether I like them or not.
I definitely do regard myself as a feminist, as I believe in equality. But, my kind of feminism doesn't cause me to hate or blame the entire male population.

Women attempt suicide at far greater rates than men. Men complete more because of methodology. This is widely unknown or ignored.

Yes it's true. I came here to say the same.

Yes, someone else pointed that out to me up thread. I didn't know that at all. I must go and look it up.

Sorry I missed the earlier reply.

By a man.

No worries! Your post actually reinforced it, and prompted me to look it up, which I'll do when I have a moment later.

@TuesdayWhistler

"Women if there cars break down on the motorway or just out and about are more 🤔 likely to be giving AA services quicker than a lone males,"

Well that's fairly obvious reason women are statistically likely to be potentially sexually assaulted or and murdered in circumstances like that and other types of circumstances,
Such as being evicted and homeless 🙄

There are no risks with rejection for a boy who chooses to ask a girl out beyond hurt feelings.

Women and girls risk being raped, beaten or murdered if they hurt a boy or man's feelings.