Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

[DuncinToffee]

He called it, countdown to 4th July

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Unbelievably, Boris genuinely did renounce his US citizenship. It was kept very quiet when he was visiting there (as a US friend noted, probably best not tell the American people the UK prime minister is a tightwad who traded his US citizenship for a pocketful of mumbles such are promises) but he did. It's on the state department website somewhere.

AFAIAA on one has tried to reclaim their US citizenship once so renounced.

Was it because of money Boris Johnson renounced his citizenship ? Or some other reason?
I can't imagine it's that cheap to keep going ?

He wrote a load of columns about it. He really really really hated paying the tax it turned out was due on all his property sales.

To be fair, he wasn't alone. There is a steady stream of posts from people who have accidentally found themselves US citizens in the UK getting surprise tax demands from the IRS.

Thames Water has sent samples of water for lab testing after dozens of people reported becoming unwell with stomach cramps, vomiting and diarrhoea in south-east London.

www.theguardian.com/environment/article/2024/may/25/thames-water-vomiting-bug-cryptosporidium

And they want to put our bills up 60%.

Well it'll keep the meme machine on the loo off the front pages for a few days. In fact I would happily believe it's deliberate.

Not a huge surprise I suppose-
Tory member owned the brewery Sunak visited on Thursday.
www.mirror.co.uk/news/politics/welsh-brewery-lauded-rishi-sunak-32891025

I suspect that Scotland will lose a lot of its SNP MPs: a combination of the recent scandals and problems and that wee sleazebag wrecking narcissistic Salmond and being in power at Holyrood for too long, especially in a parliament that wasn't designed for majority (or even minority) administrations as it doesn't have sufficient checks & balances; and Labour deliberately pushing the trope that it needs Scotland in order to get a majority

Blair never needed Scotland when he got his majorities and Starmer won't either. In fact, with the recent boundary changes, Scotland will be even less represented, as we get 2 fewer MPs while England gets 10 more.

The SNP were significantly over-represented at Westminster, thanks to the vagaries of FPTP. So I think they'll be lucky to get 15 seats (which would still be better than they got prior to 2015, when +/- 6 was the norm). Labour will recover from its low of 1 and in addition to the SNP seats it will win, will hopefully hoover up the remaining 6 Conservative seats.

(As an aside, to its credit, the SNP has consistently supported PR for Westminster, even though it would have reduced the number of its MPs).

Mr Tìddles trying to ignore my existence while simultaneously wanting his dinner.

As Johnson is no longer a US citizen he can’t be President. The President must be a natural born citizen of the US.

If he regained citizenship it would be through naturalisation and then he would be a naturalized citizen rather than a natural born one.

Afternoon all.

Thank you for the new thread.

Very good clip on twitter, showing the difference between the "headline" inflation rate, and what we're actually suffering from.

https://x.com/EmergencyBod/status/1793723317532213529

No has stepped down today yet have they?

All the stepping down to avoid accountability is sickening and says a lot about why the country is in such a fucking state. They have no respect for the electorate and never have done and certainly no care and consideration.

If you've been part of this shitshow, at least have the decency to face your fate instead of running away like a coward. I'm utterly disgusted by those standing down because they're running scared.

I think there is something that's going to come out soon, hence the quickie GE decision

I'm sure no one, even cabinet members, knew his plans

I'm guessing financial irregularities regarding Mrs Sunak? Infosys?

It's all so fucking murky

Sunak has been taking The Plan to Wimbledon this afternoon.

Labour is upsetting some people by wanting to lower the voting age to 16.

I'm quite sad nobody else has stepped down yet, maybe waiting until this evening for the big Sunday politics shows tomorrow?

Evening all. Cat tax attached.
Would anyone mind me asking what’s the best way to check how your county is polling? I’m in a safe Tory seat and the close second is SNP, so if I follow my heart and vote labour I’m actually helping the tories! (Phone wanted to change that to torrid…) As @pointythings said, the snp seem to have lost their way a bit…

I think Starmer's argument that they can work, pay tax and serve in the military holds quite a lot of water. No taxation without representation and all that.

@Errolwasahero

I tend to look at Electoral Calculus
IT gives a detailed breakdown, but, of course, is only a prediction, based on polling.

https://www.electoralcalculus.co.uk/homepage.html

My bloke’s been harrumphing about the proposal to lower voting age to 16. I’m just smiling sweetly.

Behind the scenes

Thanks for the thread and all of the tax posts. I am very sad I can't pay cat tax due to eldest of my kids ( now adult) being allergic.
I am getting very excited by this election but also growing more befuddled by the timing and the problems this is causing the Conservatives.
Surely there is something more, we do not know? I may need a tinfoil hat soon as I can only conclude it is those pesky chemtrails that made him do it

The Plan is working

Labour have 13 candidates left to select for the general election - the Tories have 190

https://x.com/patrickkmaguire/status/1794417832220037414

Timetable for the 2024 general election (parliament.uk)

June 7th is the last day to submit or withdraw your nomination.

That's 9 working days...

Does Mr Tiddles have political ambitions? The Tories are apparently short of about 200 candidates, and Larry is obliged to be neutral.