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Thread 46 Sunak - don't rain on our parade

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DuncinToffee · 25/05/2024 08:28

He called it, countdown to 4th July

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Evenstar · 30/05/2024 15:51

Someone on Rishi’s team really hates him 🤣

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RafaistheKingofClay · 30/05/2024 15:53

They’ve essentially put a green screen behind him too. Nice one.

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 15:55

RafaistheKingofClay · 30/05/2024 15:53

They’ve essentially put a green screen behind him too. Nice one.

I learnt on Taskmaster that you can now do "green screening" with any colour at all! Mind blown.

SerendipityJane · 30/05/2024 16:04

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 15:55

I learnt on Taskmaster that you can now do "green screening" with any colour at all! Mind blown.

That's about the sum total of AI at the moment.

I bet he wishes he'd STFU about it a while back.

Thingscanonlygetsunk · 30/05/2024 16:04

DuncinToffee · 30/05/2024 15:11

Ah well, there you go Grin

The amount of threads on the topic is insane

Are there now more threads than children in private schools?

DuncinToffee · 30/05/2024 16:14

He really is bad at this

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1796196130637627889

Q: My mum died in 2020... & we couldn't be with her in hospital, & that's the month all the parties were going on in Downing Street.. & you got a fixed penalty notice... how can anyone trust you?

Rishi Sunak: I'm really sorry you lost your mum... I showed up to a meeting..

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 16:20

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 15:31

Yes I think because labour said it would not add VAT but is "adding" it to private schools there's been confusion.

There's another news item about Labour having a "black and brown problem" from another woman. I think Labour need to be very careful here as 2 similar stories close together added to the ban on talking about muslims...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/30/blocked-labour-candidate-faiza-shaheen-to-challenge-deselection

I watched her interview on Newsnight last night. I was very sympathetic. She seemed genuinely stunned that they were trawling through everything she'd put on social media going back years and were getting rid of her because of her colour and being left wing.

Then a tweet she liked from just last week was read out and all sympathy disappeared. Absolutely blatant antisemitism. Which she acknowledged was antisemtic but then tried to pin liking it on her newborn baby.

Being blocked had nothing to do with the colour of her skin and everything to do with her being an antisemite.

IClaudine · 30/05/2024 16:20

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 15:31

Yes I think because labour said it would not add VAT but is "adding" it to private schools there's been confusion.

There's another news item about Labour having a "black and brown problem" from another woman. I think Labour need to be very careful here as 2 similar stories close together added to the ban on talking about muslims...
https://www.theguardian.com/politics/article/2024/may/30/blocked-labour-candidate-faiza-shaheen-to-challenge-deselection

Not so much mention of Lloyd Russell Moyle also being disallowed from standing, though (I mean by the media not by you Fabio!).

dontcallmelen · 30/05/2024 16:21

I saw Faiza on newsnight yesterday, she was visibly upset clearly quite shaken by the events, does appear combined with the fall out from the handling of Diane Abbott being allowed to stand or not something going on within the Labour Party.

dontcallmelen · 30/05/2024 16:22

MrTiddles I missed that.

IClaudine · 30/05/2024 16:27

Me too, will go and watch.

It is all getting a bit murky and we are only on week two.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 16:28

Her argument against being banned appeared to be that occasional bit of antisemitism on social media shouldn't matter if you're also meeting the rabbi for coffee.

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 16:29

MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 16:20

I watched her interview on Newsnight last night. I was very sympathetic. She seemed genuinely stunned that they were trawling through everything she'd put on social media going back years and were getting rid of her because of her colour and being left wing.

Then a tweet she liked from just last week was read out and all sympathy disappeared. Absolutely blatant antisemitism. Which she acknowledged was antisemtic but then tried to pin liking it on her newborn baby.

Being blocked had nothing to do with the colour of her skin and everything to do with her being an antisemite.

I missed that too. I think we need to be mindful that the war is happening though and no all criticism of IDF/Net(?) are antisemitism. Obviously I've not a clue what she said but it does need to be differentiated. In a rush out now so didn't want to guess at sp!

IClaudine · 30/05/2024 16:36

Owen Jones really putting the boot in. Although he does have a point, given that he knows nothing about why Moyles has been suspended I think he needs to be quiet. He will have egg on his face if Moyles has done something serious.

I remember when Jones was putting the boot into Corbyn, then changed his mind. He is a self serving twerp.

OK everyone, gather round, here's a lovely little story for you all.

Chris Ward - Keir Starmer's former chief of staff - was a longtime close friend.

He stayed at my parent's flat in Edinburgh. We got drunk together, made repetitive Alan Partridge-based gags.

We argued about politics a lot: understandable, given his love of Tony Blair and unrepentant support for the Iraq War.

He was obsessed with becoming an MP in his hometown, Brighton. His greatest ire wasn't reserved for the Tories, but for the Green Party, not least @CarolineLucas, who was something of a demonic figure for him.

We discussed his frustrations at his flatlining career, condemned to a years-long exile of being a parliamentary bagcarrier, until some new MP called 'Keir Starmer' scooped him up.

During the 2020 Labour leadership campaign, Chris Ward regaled me with fascinating tidbits like 'Keir Starmer really wants John McDonnell to stay on as Shadow Chancellor!!"

He would ring me up to promise me that pledges like 'increase tax on the top 5%' were ironclad.

Needless to say I wasn't convinced by this, and didn't vote for his candidate, but there's an insight into just how pathologically dishonest that campaign was.

He then went on to work for 'Hanbury Strategy', a corporate lobbying firm set up by two Tories, one of them the former PR lead for Vote Leave.

What I would say is this.

Lloyd Russell Moyle is a gay man - like all the politicians purged by Starmer so far, from a minority - and the first of his family to go to university, who has been purged from his seat with the help of a nicely timed vexatious complaint.

As Starmer's allies carve up parliamentary seats like colonial administrators divvying up their spoils, Ward - like a vulture - is set to steal this seat with not a single local member voting for him.

Those local members should feel furious. They had a principled, independent-minded MP.

They now have a professional political operator turned corporate lobbyist who will be a stooge for whatever his old boss tells him to say or do, and they have no say over the matter.

Well, I think Brighton deserves better.

Vote @Elaine4Kemptown for the Green Party.

https://x.com/OwenJones84/status/1796181855122653441

https://owenjones84.medium.com/questions-all-jeremy-corbyn-supporters-need-to-answer-b3e82ace7ed3#.txqbm71w3

Piggywaspushed · 30/05/2024 16:39

I am sure LRM is awful. But I did see someone resorting to the privilege white public schoolboy trope on him yesterday. Only the white bit is true...

SerendipityJane · 30/05/2024 16:40

Keep it light, folks, keep it light

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MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 16:40

fabio12 · 30/05/2024 16:29

I missed that too. I think we need to be mindful that the war is happening though and no all criticism of IDF/Net(?) are antisemitism. Obviously I've not a clue what she said but it does need to be differentiated. In a rush out now so didn't want to guess at sp!

The tweet read out wasn't a critism of the IDF/Net. It was attacking the 'hysterical' people who object to criticism of Israel, people who are being controlled by powerful organisations. It was straight up the 'jews as puppet masters' antisemitism.

MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 16:43

Just in case it was missed, she didn't deny it was antisemtic. She agreed it was. She just didn't think it was right that she be held to account for it.

SerendipityJane · 30/05/2024 16:44

Incidentally, whilst I would never claim to be a "DistinguishedPoliticalCommentator" (nor indeed a Dedicated Follower of Fashion) I like to think I'm fairly withit, as my DM would have said.

So the fact there are names popping up in this thread that even I have to google is probably a clear indication of how important all of this is to the person on the clapped out omnibus. I think we really may have got to the angels on pins level of debate.

Bigcoatlady · 30/05/2024 16:50

DuncinToffee · 30/05/2024 15:11

Ah well, there you go Grin

The amount of threads on the topic is insane

It is. I can see their POV which is 'Help my financial plans are screwed if this happens'. But that's just welcome to austerity, the bedroom tax, the 2 child limit for low income households on UC, Trussonomics for anyone with a mortgage, threatening to get rid of PIP etc...So, you know, sad but less sad than a lot of other sad things.

What's doing my head in is it's like arguing with Corbynistas. If an issue only affects 6% of parents of school age kids who were prob mainly going to vote Tory anyway, no matter how stupid you prove the policy to be it will have zero outcome on the election. Labour will win. Tighten your belts accordingly. See further why however right you are about Palestine (and it seems people definitely were) that was not going to get Corbyn elected in 2019 and won't get Starmer elected now (sadly, as frankly being able to call genocide genocide is something he is amply qualified to do).

I love a good argument about policy, but these people need to spend time in the realityverse.

Evenstar · 30/05/2024 17:08

Turns out the guy who blocked the lady rolling her eyes yesterday is one of Oliver Dowden’s SPAD’s and formerly an intern of a Tufton Street group. They’re not very good at this are they https://x.com/brexitfails/status/1796100448224423994?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

cakeorwine · 30/05/2024 17:30

Evenstar · 30/05/2024 17:08

Turns out the guy who blocked the lady rolling her eyes yesterday is one of Oliver Dowden’s SPAD’s and formerly an intern of a Tufton Street group. They’re not very good at this are they https://x.com/brexitfails/status/1796100448224423994?s=61&t=xKCXjKa1-S6Ks0nSd_LXGg

Used to be a Deputy Head Boy and also has a Door Supervisor Licence. Also had a summer party hospitality from Policy Exchange

Is that stalkerish? Thanks Linked In and Google

MrTiddlesTheCat · 30/05/2024 17:38

I can't put into words properly how disturbing I find it when a man deliberately uses his size to physically block/silence/shut out a woman.

Piggywaspushed · 30/05/2024 17:45

Another defection!

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