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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

OP posts:
DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 12:29

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:11

Shops exist only to make money.

That's exactly what I'm saying too, so it seems we agree here at least.

The difference seems to be that you appear to think this is fine, and I don't.

chattyness · 10/05/2024 12:30

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:14

BOGOF was banned during COVID as it encouraged people to go shopping / hoard or something, when there were supply and global health issues etc.

The supermarkets just marked everything as half price instead

it disappeared long before covid

Bl00msburySet · 10/05/2024 12:30

It really bugs me if you forget your card now. £14 difference it nearly cost me in Sainsburys if I hadn’t put it all back and pissed off the waiting queue.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 12:30

Ereyraa · 10/05/2024 12:13

No one is saying they should be a charity, but shouldn't shops exist for the benefit of society rather than society existing for the benefit of shops?

I’m not sure you understand business.

We are not actually a socialist country, despite what some people on MN think.

Oh I totally understand business. This is the problem.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/05/2024 13:54

Bl00msburySet · 10/05/2024 12:30

It really bugs me if you forget your card now. £14 difference it nearly cost me in Sainsburys if I hadn’t put it all back and pissed off the waiting queue.

Why didn't you ask somebody in the queue for their card?

taxguru · 10/05/2024 14:06

chattyness · 10/05/2024 11:03

One of the money scamming things I find in smaller shops like spar, co-op, mccolls that I really don't like are things like this : £1.25 each or 2 for £2 , £2.50 each or each or 2 for £4 etc That forces you to spend more to get a cheaper price or pay more for one unit, that isn't fair in my eyes. Poorer people who don't have that money to juggle with will always miss out on deals like this whereas with bogof you didn't spend extra and you got more for your money

That's simply grossly over-charging on the single item, and I agree it should be stopped. The shops just dress it up to make it look like a good deal to buy 2 or 4 or whatever, but it isn't. Anyway, it's the manufacturer financing such "discounts" for multiple purchases, not the shop itself. The shop will get retro discounts from the manufacturer to cover the "discount".

Personally I'd have a law that multipacks couldn't be cheaper than say 75% of the single price. So if a kitkat single was 50p, then a 4 pack couldn't be less than £1.50. It's absolutely madness that in our convenience store (a Spar), the 4 packs of Kitkats are £1.25 but the single is 70p!

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 16:05

taxguru · 10/05/2024 14:06

That's simply grossly over-charging on the single item, and I agree it should be stopped. The shops just dress it up to make it look like a good deal to buy 2 or 4 or whatever, but it isn't. Anyway, it's the manufacturer financing such "discounts" for multiple purchases, not the shop itself. The shop will get retro discounts from the manufacturer to cover the "discount".

Personally I'd have a law that multipacks couldn't be cheaper than say 75% of the single price. So if a kitkat single was 50p, then a 4 pack couldn't be less than £1.50. It's absolutely madness that in our convenience store (a Spar), the 4 packs of Kitkats are £1.25 but the single is 70p!

They can't legally over state the price and clamit on sale etc.
So like if they always sell sausages for £2, they can't say "£3 reduced to £2" the next day. They will have had to swell them at £3 for an extended time.

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 16:06

taxguru · 10/05/2024 14:06

That's simply grossly over-charging on the single item, and I agree it should be stopped. The shops just dress it up to make it look like a good deal to buy 2 or 4 or whatever, but it isn't. Anyway, it's the manufacturer financing such "discounts" for multiple purchases, not the shop itself. The shop will get retro discounts from the manufacturer to cover the "discount".

Personally I'd have a law that multipacks couldn't be cheaper than say 75% of the single price. So if a kitkat single was 50p, then a 4 pack couldn't be less than £1.50. It's absolutely madness that in our convenience store (a Spar), the 4 packs of Kitkats are £1.25 but the single is 70p!

The main reason they're £1.25 for 4 a D the single is 70p... Is to get you to spend more money.

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/05/2024 18:21

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:05

becasue some PP mentioned them as some sort of gotcha for the CCP "problem"... because for a few weeks of the year they are reduced and there's no other equivalent available... Confused

YOU are the only person talking about cheese strings Confused. Are you on the right thread?

NoWordForFluffy · 10/05/2024 18:30

LindorDoubleChoc · 10/05/2024 18:21

YOU are the only person talking about cheese strings Confused. Are you on the right thread?

It's obvious they misread 'cheese springs to mind' as 'cheese strings'.

inamarina · 11/05/2024 10:42

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 10:36

Absolutely - we definitely did not get discounts before loyalty card prices.

Of course we did, I never said we didn’t. Those types of discounts still exist today though, outside of the loyalty card schemes.
I was just responding to a particular poster who said that due to her disability she had money issues, so she was irritated about missing out on a discount when she forgot her card.
I get that it’s annoying, but she wasn’t missing out because of her disability or her financial situation. It’s not like those loyalty cards are something poor or disabled people generally have no access to.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 11/05/2024 11:09

inamarina · 11/05/2024 10:42

Of course we did, I never said we didn’t. Those types of discounts still exist today though, outside of the loyalty card schemes.
I was just responding to a particular poster who said that due to her disability she had money issues, so she was irritated about missing out on a discount when she forgot her card.
I get that it’s annoying, but she wasn’t missing out because of her disability or her financial situation. It’s not like those loyalty cards are something poor or disabled people generally have no access to.

But that poster just said she was disabled and did have problems with it.

liveforsummer · 11/05/2024 11:12

I go to Ireland a lot, and my Tesco club card does not work there, so I have to pay significantly higher prices in Tesco there. I think that is shitty, and I think the whole arrangement is shitty, and brings no benefit to the customer (obviously) but exists purely to increase prices for the store (obviously) in a way that many people, as this thread proves, are foolish enough to be totally accepting of.

If you go a lot why don't you sign up for a card there? Save yourself some money!

whatsthecraictoday · 11/05/2024 11:35

I don't think it's an issue. They offer discounts in return for your personal data and access to your shopping habits.

I don't want Tesco to have access to those things so I don't have a Clubcard. I don't think the 'discounts' they offer are particularly good anyway.

inamarina · 11/05/2024 12:16

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 11/05/2024 11:09

But that poster just said she was disabled and did have problems with it.

She said “I forgot to scan my card - because I'm human and flawed”.
That could happen to anyone. It’s annoying of course, but she didn’t say she forgot the card because she’s disabled.

MrsSkylerWhite · 11/05/2024 12:25

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:10
LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 21:07

Just get a bloody loyalty card or go and shop at Aldi or lidl
It's actually very simple
Your choice
**
And if Aldi and Lidl start doing the same, just like all the others? What will you say when there is no choice? So short-sighted.”

Lidl have a loyalty card. It’s great, save even more and get free products most shops.

Had a club card 30 years ago. It bought us so many days out that we couldn’t have managed full price as the kids were growing up.

I don’t have an online presence, this is the only forum I’m on. No SM. Can’t get worked up about someone knowing my shopping habits.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 11/05/2024 12:32

inamarina · 11/05/2024 12:16

She said “I forgot to scan my card - because I'm human and flawed”.
That could happen to anyone. It’s annoying of course, but she didn’t say she forgot the card because she’s disabled.

Yes, sorry that was another poster rather than the one you were specifically replying to. Same point applies though.

KnittedCardi · 11/05/2024 13:04

www.gov.uk/cma-cases/loyalty-pricing-in-the-groceries-sector

The government has already started a review via the CMA. So there's your answer OP, they already have

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 11/05/2024 14:36

whatsthecraictoday · 11/05/2024 11:35

I don't think it's an issue. They offer discounts in return for your personal data and access to your shopping habits.

I don't want Tesco to have access to those things so I don't have a Clubcard. I don't think the 'discounts' they offer are particularly good anyway.

That depends on what you buy, I stock up on non perishables when they are on offer and the savings add up. Unless my tesco isn't the same as others they definitely do t put the prices up before they go on clubcard price, I know pretty much the cost of everything I buy and this just doesn't happen

I dont know about other supermarkets though

Iloveyoubut · 11/05/2024 15:26

In the last, I wasn’t interested in Tesco vouchers or advantage card points etc, I wasn’t looking for special offers related to having a loyalty caad, if I was, if quite happily have signed up for a card. In the past there were ‘rewards’ if you signed up for a card. You weren’t penalised for not having a card if you didn’t want the rewards attached to it. Now, particularly in Superdrug I’ve noticed, far too many items have two prices, one if I have a card and one if I don’t. It’s not a ‘special offer’ it’s two prices and I don’t think that’s right to basically force people to sign up for and use something they don’t want to so they can afford their shopping now. It’s very, very different now compared to the way these schemes used to work.

WittiestUsernameEver · 11/05/2024 17:12

Iloveyoubut · 11/05/2024 15:26

In the last, I wasn’t interested in Tesco vouchers or advantage card points etc, I wasn’t looking for special offers related to having a loyalty caad, if I was, if quite happily have signed up for a card. In the past there were ‘rewards’ if you signed up for a card. You weren’t penalised for not having a card if you didn’t want the rewards attached to it. Now, particularly in Superdrug I’ve noticed, far too many items have two prices, one if I have a card and one if I don’t. It’s not a ‘special offer’ it’s two prices and I don’t think that’s right to basically force people to sign up for and use something they don’t want to so they can afford their shopping now. It’s very, very different now compared to the way these schemes used to work.

Nope. Sorry. Tesco clubcard prices are always on branded items or luxury foods.
This isn't about affordability of a weekly shop
..

People who can't afford to spend £4 on a big box of Frosties can't afford it, sale or not. They'll be buying Tesco own brand anyway. Incredibly rarely is a reward card price the cheapest option.

Iloveyoubut · 11/05/2024 17:21

You can ‘nope sorry’ me all you like! I think you’ll find i was, in the maiin, referring to Superdrug! But yes…, let’s make it about Tesco because that seems to suit your narrative. I’m giving my thoughts and opinions on a post, MY experiences. Your ‘nope sorry’ doesn’t change my experience. There is more than Tesco, I don’t even shop there! It stating, not to you specifically, although it’s starting to feel that way, how I think things have changed and how that makes me feel and how that affects MY shopping experience.

WittiestUsernameEver · 11/05/2024 17:38

I'm just saying about "affording your shopping" the price is £4 something like 48 weeks of the year... And then maybe £3 on loyalty prices. If someone can't afford £4 they aren't buying that item anyway.

Tesco..Asda... super drug... wherever. It will almost always be in premium items that have a cheaper alternative anyway.

LastTrainEast · 05/06/2024 09:19

They are loyalty cards. Once you have them it's easier to stick with the same shop than to get another card and that's what they are hoping for.

So if you do get a card for each shop then you win! You get the discount and the freedom to use any shop without losing out.

As for data mining. In this instance who cares? Knowing what cereal I eat doesn't feel very personal to me.

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