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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

OP posts:
luckylavender · 09/05/2024 20:54

Of all the things that need doing

napody · 09/05/2024 20:55

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:53

Legally it is a free choice?

and please, the government will not intervene with “unethical practices”. Presumably this would be a civil claim & not a criminal claim - or if you’re saying this is criminal, what is the legal basis for investigation? What is “price fixing” in this context and is that a crime? As far as I’m aware retailers can price their items as they see fit

Edited

Lol, nobody said anything about a criminal case.
You understand that governments can set policy, yes? Like making companies put nutritional info on their packaging, to use one of literally millions of examples?

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:55

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

Also, club card is nothing new. It's been around decades. And they always gave you money off vouchers for particular items , as well as the "cash" vouchers...
So you could get 50p of a pot of Skyr that would usually be £2 and use the £3 Tesco coupon to buy the two pots of discounted yoghurt for 'free'

Those same people you're claiming are being discriminated against were never able to get that same discount or vouchers.

How is clubcard prices any different?

Example;

The year is 2007: If you have a clubcard you get 50p of X item by using a voucher we posted to you.

The year is 2024: if you have a clubcard you get 50p of X item... (We just don't have to waste money sending you the voucher)

What's the difference???

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:56

luckylavender · 09/05/2024 20:54

Of all the things that need doing

But this is basically the vanguard of the late stage capitalist system that is responsible for the increasing shitshow that is modern life.

LesmisPhantom · 09/05/2024 20:57

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:40

Your mum's garden shed

Edited

Oh that edit history of this is great!

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:58

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:52

And if the one on offer happens to be the cheapest?

So what, it's chicken nuggets? Hardly essential foods... ..go without or buy something else just as shite.

napody · 09/05/2024 20:59

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:53

Legally it is a free choice?

and please, the government will not intervene with “unethical practices”. Presumably this would be a civil claim & not a criminal claim - or if you’re saying this is criminal, what is the legal basis for investigation? What is “price fixing” in this context and is that a crime? As far as I’m aware retailers can price their items as they see fit

Edited

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/dec/08/supermarkets.asda

Supermarkets fined £116m for price fixing

· Sainsbury's and Asda negotiate reduced amount · Actions intended to help dairy farmers, say firms

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2007/dec/08/supermarkets.asda

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 21:00

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:52

And if the one on offer happens to be the cheapest?

I'd put money on the thing on offer not being the cheapest option...

TeenLifeMum · 09/05/2024 21:01

I hate it but don’t think it’s a government issue. I’m shopping with Ocado and it’s cheaper than my Asda shop was, which surprised me.

TheYearOfSmallThings · 09/05/2024 21:02

I hate it too, OP, and I think it is shit. It also means visitors from abroad get gouged because obviously they can't get a card.

TTPD · 09/05/2024 21:03

Ambiguity wrt invitation to treat including how tills display pricing at different points in transaction.

So is your concern more with the labelling than the general principle?

VeraForever · 09/05/2024 21:03

I feel very much for the very elderly and vulnerable who may not have access to computers/tablets.

They probably don't realise that prices are lower for card holders.

I think it's wrong.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:03

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:58

So what, it's chicken nuggets? Hardly essential foods... ..go without or buy something else just as shite.

“Go without” - tells me all I need to know.

ATerrorofLeftovers · 09/05/2024 21:04

napody · 09/05/2024 20:32

I think it's shoddy too OP. It's not a few points, it's having to pay double to not jump through the loyalty card hoops. Penalising vulnerable people or those with chaotic lives. It's always been more expensive to be poor and vulnerable, and it's getting worse.

Agreed.

Those thinking they are getting a ‘discount’ with Clubcard are naive. The Clubcard price is the real price. The price charged to those who’ve forgotten theirs is an artificially inflated price to make the Clubcard price look like you’re getting a bargain.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:06

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 21:00

I'd put money on the thing on offer not being the cheapest option...

In the shop? For now, maybe, although I am not sure. Frog boiling takes time though.

LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 21:07

Just get a bloody loyalty card or go and shop at Aldi or lidl
It's actually very simple
Your choice

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:10

LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 21:07

Just get a bloody loyalty card or go and shop at Aldi or lidl
It's actually very simple
Your choice

And if Aldi and Lidl start doing the same, just like all the others? What will you say when there is no choice? So short-sighted.

Pogointospring · 09/05/2024 21:12

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

“One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.”

Nothing new there - take Costco as an example!

Glittertwins · 09/05/2024 21:15

TheYearOfSmallThings · 09/05/2024 21:02

I hate it too, OP, and I think it is shit. It also means visitors from abroad get gouged because obviously they can't get a card.

They could sign up for a card. I did that in France and have a Casino supermarket card. Saved us a fortune on that self catering holiday, thanks to the cashier!

Lonelycrab · 09/05/2024 21:15

Here’s a question for those against loyalty schemes:

Say, through legislation, they’re banned. Do you expect a levelling of prices by the supermarkets?

I don’t.

I think they’ll charge everyone the full whack non loyalty price and claim they have no choice as the law has changed. And Tesco etc profit will jump from 2.5bn to around double that.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:23

Lonelycrab · 09/05/2024 21:15

Here’s a question for those against loyalty schemes:

Say, through legislation, they’re banned. Do you expect a levelling of prices by the supermarkets?

I don’t.

I think they’ll charge everyone the full whack non loyalty price and claim they have no choice as the law has changed. And Tesco etc profit will jump from 2.5bn to around double that.

No, they will just balance the prices and those people who have been paying the higher prices, for whatever reason, will pay a fair bit less while those paying the lower prices will pay slightly more (as they are the majority). Otherwise another supermarket will undercut them (as we still have some kind of competition in this sector).

WhereAreAllTheBendyBusses · 09/05/2024 21:31

Mines never accurate as my dad and 2 elder dcs have my log in on the app. Its in maiden name old address old email which just rarely use.
However I do get lots of great offers on the stuff I regularly buy.
With club card prices my weekly shop is generally cheaper than aldi and better quality.
Although I use aldi and Lidl too

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 21:41

napody · 09/05/2024 20:32

I think it's shoddy too OP. It's not a few points, it's having to pay double to not jump through the loyalty card hoops. Penalising vulnerable people or those with chaotic lives. It's always been more expensive to be poor and vulnerable, and it's getting worse.

What are the loyalty card hoops please?

I'm on £45 of money on cards towards Christmas on things I would have bought anyway. I shop around too. By this trajectory I will have £135 by Christmas which will cover all out good and drink for the festive season.

They can know my habits. I don't care!

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 21:42

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:33

All those people fine with it will eat their words when the higher tier becomes a paid subscription.

Could you explain what you mean please?

If they do that then I'll vote with my feet and shop elsewhere.

As a PP said, we shop where we want to 🤷🏻‍♀️

MigGirl · 09/05/2024 21:44

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:39

No, you just paid what you would have done anyway before they started doing all of this.

Actually if you where paying attention to pricing the prices are higher then they where before. But pricing has gone up a lot anyway.

OP it pissis me off, not because they are collecting my date, they have been doing that for years.

It means I need to have every suppermarkets loyalty card in my local area, as I will shop wherever I'm closet to at the time. It's stopped me shopping in one store as I didn't go there that often and didn't want another bloody app/card whatever.

They do do it on some basic items not just luxury items. I feel I'm being ripped off if I can't find my card. Note not everyone has a smartphone and so those that use apps are excluding some people.

I don't understand why people aren't bothered by it. They are doing it on purpose as a % of shoppers will be paying the higher price so they will be earing more profit from these customers. But are still earing a profit on the lower price.