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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

OP posts:
GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 22:28

AdoraBell · 09/05/2024 22:20

How much do government inquiries cost tax payers OP ?

Dunno.

Less than the Royal Family, more than the HSE.

Maybe.

OP posts:
OytheBumbler · 09/05/2024 22:28

It worries me that people think this is fine.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/05/2024 22:29

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:50

So not a court case, but reported to the regulator by a consumer action group.
https://news.sky.com/story/tesco-reported-to-regulator-amid-allegations-its-clubcard-offers-lack-transparency-12898832

That article is a year old and they do put unit prices on the clubcard offers, I actually checked one this week on chicken as the pack sizes made it too difficult to compare in my head

alwaysmovingforwards · 09/05/2024 22:32

FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 09/05/2024 20:33

The supermarkets are doing nothing wrong, they are not obligated to offer anyone any discounts.

They have a revenue strategy that allows them to offer discounts to people who willingly give permission for their data to be sold. Supermarket makes back any money they lose with the discount by selling the data, customer buys stuff cheaper.

That's the model, sign up to it or don't, that's your choice.

The suppliers fund the promotional discounts not the supermarkets

Woman2023 · 09/05/2024 22:42

I do hope all the people who can see no problem with 2 tier pricing dependent on having a card or app never get old and confused or forgetful.

I dread to think how much the supermarkets have made out of my elderly dad choosing the offers then forgetting to swipe his card.

Judge a society by how it treats its vulnerable citizens.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 22:52

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 21:03

“Go without” - tells me all I need to know.

I mean, go without that particular brand if nuggets, they definitely won't be the cheapest option and there's certainly another option to choose.

Besides it really isn't any different to the old clubcard system where people got vouchers for specific items, plus store credit. Noone fucking complained then when people got double discounts and/or free food...

Justrolledmyeyesoutloud · 09/05/2024 22:56

napody · 09/05/2024 20:32

I think it's shoddy too OP. It's not a few points, it's having to pay double to not jump through the loyalty card hoops. Penalising vulnerable people or those with chaotic lives. It's always been more expensive to be poor and vulnerable, and it's getting worse.

Me too

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 22:57

Woman2023 · 09/05/2024 22:42

I do hope all the people who can see no problem with 2 tier pricing dependent on having a card or app never get old and confused or forgetful.

I dread to think how much the supermarkets have made out of my elderly dad choosing the offers then forgetting to swipe his card.

Judge a society by how it treats its vulnerable citizens.

The offers on these things are 99% for shit junk food that's expensive in the first place.

Noone is denying and old person access to affordable food . They can choose to buy any other dozens of bread that are cheaper than the £1.80 Hovis Loaf that's usually £2.50 or whatever. They can buy supermarket own brand, another cheaper brand... There's dozens of choices in supermarkets usually..

No-one is being forced to buy expensive brands. And if they did, that's THEIR CHOICE, and they're presumably happy to pay full price 9 weeks out of 10 when it's not on offer...so why all the hand wringing and "won't anyone think of the old/homeless/tourists?"

I genuinely don't understand what's the problem??

Iloveyoubut · 09/05/2024 22:58

titbumwillypoo · 09/05/2024 20:15

Why, you can shop anywhere you like?

And one again we have the shitty first post! Jeez it’s getting old!!

AFewScrewsLucy · 09/05/2024 23:01

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:52

And if the one on offer happens to be the cheapest?

It won't be.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:03

MigGirl · 09/05/2024 21:59

Actually the difference is they are doing both. Although my coupons are electronic now and avaible to use against my online shop.

The only really useful ones are the £5 off a shop though. I believe you can still use them instore with the app.

I would often flit between tesco and Sainburys as if you hadn't shopped in one or the other for a while they would give you another voucher off your shopping.

But the loyalty card pricing is slightly different then the discount codes as when they introduce it prices of items not on club card price actually went up. The club card price was the original price not an actual discount. How they managed that now with swapping discounts around I haven't worked out.

Funny how nobody complained about old people/homeless/tourists etc not being able to access the free money coupons before these schemes....After all, they could never have a clubcard the last 25+ years, so never have been able to get vouchers and money off items as well as free food...

But all of a sudden it's a problem?

Iloveyoubut · 09/05/2024 23:03

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

I despise two-tier pricing. I hate the whole ‘oh it’s just easier to get the card/app/etc’. Loyalty cards used to feel like they were rewarding customers, this feels like you’re being penalised now. I don’t want to have to scan my phone or card everywhere, I’m particularly hating Superdrug for this at the moment. Fine, give some rewards or special offers to those who want to participate but two different prices across so many products just really pisses me off. It doesn’t feel like voluntary participation anymore.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:03

OytheBumbler · 09/05/2024 22:28

It worries me that people think this is fine.

Why?

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:04

Iloveyoubut · 09/05/2024 23:03

I despise two-tier pricing. I hate the whole ‘oh it’s just easier to get the card/app/etc’. Loyalty cards used to feel like they were rewarding customers, this feels like you’re being penalised now. I don’t want to have to scan my phone or card everywhere, I’m particularly hating Superdrug for this at the moment. Fine, give some rewards or special offers to those who want to participate but two different prices across so many products just really pisses me off. It doesn’t feel like voluntary participation anymore.

Why is this suddenly a problem, when having a card has given you an advantage over those who don't for decades?

Iloveyoubut · 09/05/2024 23:05

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:04

Why is this suddenly a problem, when having a card has given you an advantage over those who don't for decades?

I think I explained it in my post.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:12

Iloveyoubut · 09/05/2024 23:05

I think I explained it in my post.

Yes, but you have been "penalised" for decades if you haven't had a clubcard or similar... So why is it all of a sudden a problem?

And again, it's all mostly junk food or expensive brands anyway, and they're incredibly rarely cheaper than an alternative product. Sure, you can buy 5 tins of Heinz Soup for £6 on a special offer, instead of paying £8.50... but if you just buy 5 tins of supermarket soup/another brand, you'll get them for £4.50.

And if you're buying Heinz every week, it's not like it's a cost issue stopping you buying it.., it's just you aren't getting the offer of you don't have a clubcard. So what? You weren't getting the £6 Tesco voucher to get the tins of soup for free either, but oddly no-one complained about that or thought it unfair etc.

blacksax · 09/05/2024 23:15

VeraForever · 09/05/2024 21:03

I feel very much for the very elderly and vulnerable who may not have access to computers/tablets.

They probably don't realise that prices are lower for card holders.

I think it's wrong.

Why would someone need a computer or tablet in order to realise? They can read the labels on the shelf edges, and all the big placards around the store. Being elderly or vulnerable doesn't make you thick.

Elektra1 · 09/05/2024 23:28

"Ambiguity wrt invitation to treat including how tills display pricing at different points in transaction."

You're not a lawyer are you?

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 23:33

AFewScrewsLucy · 09/05/2024 23:01

It won't be.

Said with such certainty, sigh. The reduced product is quite often is the cheapest of it's type, unless you mean they can just pick a different bread product, or dairy item, etc but then you might as well say they can just buy anything in the shop and it's fine.

nothingsforgotten · 09/05/2024 23:33

TheYearOfSmallThings · 09/05/2024 21:02

I hate it too, OP, and I think it is shit. It also means visitors from abroad get gouged because obviously they can't get a card.

Why would a visitor from abroad care? They are hardly going to "get gouged", we are talking about groceries, not high end expensive items.

It never fails to amaze me, the things MNers get their knickers in a knot over!! I have literally never heard anyone complain about loyalty cards where I live. Confused

ClemmyTine · 09/05/2024 23:36

I would agree with your point op, but then you said suck ass.
I'm thinking you're a 15 year old American girl having a laugh.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 23:39

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:03

Funny how nobody complained about old people/homeless/tourists etc not being able to access the free money coupons before these schemes....After all, they could never have a clubcard the last 25+ years, so never have been able to get vouchers and money off items as well as free food...

But all of a sudden it's a problem?

Edited

Can you not see that it's getting worse?

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 23:46

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 23:39

Can you not see that it's getting worse?

It's just the same issue as always, just people don't like it because they're "missing out" on offers now, where they weren't before and in fact were getting more offers than others... so now they think it's unfair.

It really isn't an problem... as I've said there's always a cheaper alternative...

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 00:07

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 23:33

Said with such certainty, sigh. The reduced product is quite often is the cheapest of it's type, unless you mean they can just pick a different bread product, or dairy item, etc but then you might as well say they can just buy anything in the shop and it's fine.

No, I mean, choose a different same product. So if Heinz Tomato soup is on Clubcard prices (CCP) you can easily buy the other 4 choices of tinned tomato soup, if which at least one will be cheaper than then branded offers.

I looked at Tesco clubcard prices just now

Want some light butter/spread?
Clover light 500g, CCP £1.75
Tesco 500g light olive oil spread, £1.40

Want frozen peas?
Bird's Eye 1.2kg, CCP £3.
Tesco 1kg, £1.45 ...go crazy buy 2 bags, still cheaper than 1 bag of Birds eye.

Let's get some chips
McCain French Fries 1.4kg, CCP £3.50
Tesco french fries 1.5kg £1.99.

Cereal?
Kellogg's Frosties 470g, CCP £3
Tesco frosted flakes 500g, £1.15....

chattyness · 10/05/2024 00:08

I'm really happy with my Tesco Clubcard deals ,and the shop and save deal I got last year earned me 60 quid off my Christmas food shop as well which was really helpful. If I shop locally there are only 3 small shops to choose from and they charge a small fortune for everything. I have tried to rely on them for the past 30 years, you know use it or lose it, just doing a big stock up every couple of months at Tesco or Lidl and staying local week on week, but then came covid and I had to rely on them completely as shopping slots were like gold dust. It was a nightmare, everything was so bloody expensive and good food was difficult to get so we really struggled to eat healthily . As soon as I could get on the delivery saver list, I joined up and what a difference , I already had the club card as I've had it for many years, because even though I wasn't shopping with them that regularly I always thought it worth having to use when I did my big shop there. Anyway I've saved so much money compared to shopping locally plus the variety of fresh food to choose from is so much better and all delivered to my door as well. There's plenty of deals to be had on the fresh food as well as the junk if you pay attention when you shop. I shop online but don't use a smartphone or app to order as I don't have one.

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