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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

OP posts:
Lonelycrab · 09/05/2024 20:41

Got to say I’m not particularly bothered op. If they want to data mine me for my potato selection that’s fine.

Used to think it was an infringement, and I guess it kinda is, but let’s face it, through our internet use, those who wish to track our preferences already have far more power than a clubcard.

Houseplanter · 09/05/2024 20:41

Ok @DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm I spent £40 less than those who choose not to just get a card.

Better?

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:42

napody · 09/05/2024 20:34

It's not a choice if you're poor and live in a food desert without transport.

What’s your legal claim here though? You’re talking about a business, they don’t legally owe you anything because you’re poor. It’s the government that needs to support people in the situation you describe

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:42

You would get personalised vouchers based on your spending habits prior to the clubcard prices...not sure what the difference is tbh.

DoreenonTill8 · 09/05/2024 20:42

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:24

Sorry, I'm not clear what you mean. Are you asking: "why can you shop anywhere you like?"

No, that's why @titbumwillypoo has used a comma. You're being asked 'why are you bothered? You can shop anywhere you like'.Did you not get that?

GoodVibesHere · 09/05/2024 20:42

I agree with the OP this loyalty card system of pricing is awful and should be prevented. It was ok when the cards simply meant that you earn/build rewards, but now there is actually a two-tier pricing system. It's not friendly towards vulnerable people, older people, even preteens who pop in to buy a bag of sweets but don't want to join a loyalty club why should they have to pay so much more for a bag of chocolate buttons. The price differences are really quite high now. The way these 'offers' are displayed can be quite misleading too, you have to pay attention to realise that you need a clubcard to get the price being displayed.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:44

Houseplanter · 09/05/2024 20:41

Ok @DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm I spent £40 less than those who choose not to just get a card.

Better?

I’d say so. It’s all marketing guff - surprised so many people fall for it tbh.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:44

Houseplanter · 09/05/2024 20:36

I saved over £40 on nectar prices this week. Why wouldn't I?

Well, you've only saved that £40 if you were intending to buy the exact items anyway?

The idea is to get you to buy the items because "it's a bargain"...you might be persuaded to spend £2.40 on that 300g of branded cheese, because you've "saved" 90p. But originally had intended to buy the £2.20 supermarket own brand, but got swayed by the discount.

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

napody · 09/05/2024 20:46

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 09/05/2024 20:39

By that logic small shops should be banned altogether as they are almost always more expensive than supermarkets and, as you point out, some people don't have a choice about using them.

That makes no sense.
It's obvious why small independent shops are more expensive.

I think it's interesting how many responses are along the lines "OP, why don't you just...." as if OP can only have been thinking of herself in posting. There are lots of people out there, many not as savvy or privileged as you. The new gambit of those without loyalty cards having to pay double (and it's not just luxury items it's often basics too) is manipulative and unethical. Like price fixing between supermarkets. Very odd that people seem to have no moral compass beyond 'well the market allows it so... shrug'

Houseplanter · 09/05/2024 20:46

Oh I am careful and do compare prices. This week though they were promoting baby products.. my DIL was delighted with stuff she'd have had to buy for my new grandson 😊

Ereyraa · 09/05/2024 20:46

GoodVibesHere · 09/05/2024 20:42

I agree with the OP this loyalty card system of pricing is awful and should be prevented. It was ok when the cards simply meant that you earn/build rewards, but now there is actually a two-tier pricing system. It's not friendly towards vulnerable people, older people, even preteens who pop in to buy a bag of sweets but don't want to join a loyalty club why should they have to pay so much more for a bag of chocolate buttons. The price differences are really quite high now. The way these 'offers' are displayed can be quite misleading too, you have to pay attention to realise that you need a clubcard to get the price being displayed.

Clubcard has been around for nearly 30 years.

I think older people have the hang of it.

napody · 09/05/2024 20:47

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

Ah interesting about the potential court case Taciturn.
Absolutely agree with your points.

napody · 09/05/2024 20:48

Ereyraa · 09/05/2024 20:46

Clubcard has been around for nearly 30 years.

I think older people have the hang of it.

It was genuinely optional for most of that time though. It's effectively mandatory now.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:48

Ereyraa · 09/05/2024 20:46

Clubcard has been around for nearly 30 years.

I think older people have the hang of it.

Not the special prices though. Before they were optional - now they are basically compulsory, unless you like paying over the odds.

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:48

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

Nonsense.
It's not like there's literally hundreds of other kinds of food available, majority of which is still cheaper than the offer price.

Get yourself a Tesco pot of Jam for 90p, instead of complaining you can't buy the £3.40 pot of Bonne Maman for £2.90 now

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:50

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:48

Not the special prices though. Before they were optional - now they are basically compulsory, unless you like paying over the odds.

They're not, you can literally buy the other 40 loaves if bread instead of the one that is in offer...

Oh, you want to buy chicken nuggets? Well,but any if the dozen other ones then... they're still likely cheaper than the branded discounted ones anyway.

napody · 09/05/2024 20:50

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:42

What’s your legal claim here though? You’re talking about a business, they don’t legally owe you anything because you’re poor. It’s the government that needs to support people in the situation you describe

That was a response to someone saying it was a free choice. It isn't.

Government can intervene in unethical business practices. Price fixing etc. I actually think all the pps shrugging their shoulders will be surprised... I think there will be a crackdown.

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:51

I also don’t understand the outrage for supermarkets using data on shopping habits. It’s 2024 and this is the standard for marketing, advertising and even developing products. What harm is coming to me because Tesco know what kind of meal deals I go for where they adapt their offering accordingly? I can still choose to buy a different item or shop at a different retailer so their adaptations may not even result in further revenue from me.

Ereyraa · 09/05/2024 20:51

napody · 09/05/2024 20:46

That makes no sense.
It's obvious why small independent shops are more expensive.

I think it's interesting how many responses are along the lines "OP, why don't you just...." as if OP can only have been thinking of herself in posting. There are lots of people out there, many not as savvy or privileged as you. The new gambit of those without loyalty cards having to pay double (and it's not just luxury items it's often basics too) is manipulative and unethical. Like price fixing between supermarkets. Very odd that people seem to have no moral compass beyond 'well the market allows it so... shrug'

But this is life…

Car insurance - don’t have the wherewithal to go online and compare prices, instead just accept the expensive renewal quote.

Sky Tv/Broadband/Phone contracts - don’t ring up and pretend to leave on an 18-monthly basis, instead pay double when the initial offers run out

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:51

What a good bunch of compliant consumers we appear to have raised. Milton Friedman would be delighted.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:52

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:50

They're not, you can literally buy the other 40 loaves if bread instead of the one that is in offer...

Oh, you want to buy chicken nuggets? Well,but any if the dozen other ones then... they're still likely cheaper than the branded discounted ones anyway.

And if the one on offer happens to be the cheapest?

couldhaver · 09/05/2024 20:53

napody · 09/05/2024 20:50

That was a response to someone saying it was a free choice. It isn't.

Government can intervene in unethical business practices. Price fixing etc. I actually think all the pps shrugging their shoulders will be surprised... I think there will be a crackdown.

Legally it is a free choice?

and please, the government will not intervene with “unethical practices”. Presumably this would be a civil claim & not a criminal claim - or if you’re saying this is criminal, what is the legal basis for investigation? What is “price fixing” in this context and is that a crime? As far as I’m aware retailers can price their items as they see fit

napody · 09/05/2024 20:53

Ereyraa · 09/05/2024 20:51

But this is life…

Car insurance - don’t have the wherewithal to go online and compare prices, instead just accept the expensive renewal quote.

Sky Tv/Broadband/Phone contracts - don’t ring up and pretend to leave on an 18-monthly basis, instead pay double when the initial offers run out

Yeah... can you see why food is different to any of those optional costs at all?