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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

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WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:16

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 09:43

99%? Did you know that 85% of statistics are made up on the spot?

You haven't really explained why you are defending this. Would it not be better if everyone paid the same price for stuff? Would it not be easier if we didn't have to sign up for loyalty cards just to get the same prices that we used to get before?

As I said already, none of this is for our benefit. Some people will like to believe they are winning, but they're wrong. Why are so many people willing to bend over just for the small rush of seeing a 30p discount on something that makes them feel clever or special, or that they are getting some kind of a bargain (when they really aren't in the bigger scheme of things).

it would be easier if shops never had things on sale or had offers on ...

but they do and have for centuries - so ehhhh.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 10:18

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:12

becuase..it doesn't matter that you cant; get 30p of a particular luxury/branded product for lack of a loyalty card. The shops are under no obligation to reduce food through sales. They're under no obligation to do anything other than make money for their shareholders.

Noone is going hungry because they can't save 50p on a tube of Pringles or Birds Eye Fishfingers or a 12 pack of Quavers - there are dozens of alternatives that are cheaper. And if there really isn't a genuine alternative.. it will be because it will be a ultra-processed junk food item that nobody is entitled to a discount to. There's no obligation at all from the supermarkets to open this offer to everyone. None.

People happily give their data away to Disney, Apple, Google in order to access premium products. People merrily have their loyalty card stamped at a local cafe and enjoy the benefits of a free cup of tea every few months or so ... This is the same thing, give your data away to access a discount on a premium product.
Don't want o give your data away? Fine, buy the cheaper item sitting next to the CCP item and move on.

That was a very long way of saying 'I don't care'.

And so the slippery slope continues...

Peonies12 · 10/05/2024 10:18

Do you really not think there's something more important? Don't shop there if you don't like it.

ScottishScouser · 10/05/2024 10:20

I'm one of the ones that pay the monthly subscription to Tesco. Its either £7 or £7.99 - for that you get 10% off two shops a month up to a maximum of £40.

I drink a quite expensive ginger beer at £2.20 a bottle (fever tree) - tend to have a bottle a day.

So what I do is 30 x 2.20 = £66.00
Then I add on wine for the month = 4 x £20 = £80.00
That same shop I'll stock up on anything else that is a one off purchase per month - say, washing powder etc.

Even without the rest of the shop thats £14.60 saved - more than my monthly fee. I then pick one relatively high shop for the other 10%.

It gives you 10% off clothes permanently which as I tend to buy the cheap multi packs of knickers and only wear them a couple of times at most before I throw them out - saves me money there as well.

For those who say protect the vulnerable - when they got rid of first year promotions on insurance because it was unfair on those who could not shop around...... it did not lower the price on the renewals just made everyone pay the higher prices. So now the savvy have lost out just to make them pay the same as those who were not shopping around. No one benefitted.

Get rid of the loyalty offers and everyone will pay the higher price - why should some lose out just because others cannot benefit.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 10:20

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:16

it would be easier if shops never had things on sale or had offers on ...

but they do and have for centuries - so ehhhh.

Eh? What has that got to do with two-tier pricing? And who said anything about sales being bad or hard?

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 10:22

@WittiestUsernameEver But sometimes the loyalty price is at or around 50%. When it's on things I need and my income is low (I'm severely disabled & can’t work so I have to count every penny as DH's income doesn't stretch) it's a kick in the teeth when I could've had £8/£10 discount on a full food shop but didn't because I forgot to scan my card - because I'm human and flawed.

I never said I'm against it on every level. It's nice when occasionally the loyalty discount is decent and that means I can afford that bar of chocolate or other little treat for my child. Or something a bit nicer for their packed lunch as a one off.

It really isn't just luxuries, not anymore. It was at first but it's all over the shop now. At least where we are, anyway

inamarina · 10/05/2024 10:34

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 10:22

@WittiestUsernameEver But sometimes the loyalty price is at or around 50%. When it's on things I need and my income is low (I'm severely disabled & can’t work so I have to count every penny as DH's income doesn't stretch) it's a kick in the teeth when I could've had £8/£10 discount on a full food shop but didn't because I forgot to scan my card - because I'm human and flawed.

I never said I'm against it on every level. It's nice when occasionally the loyalty discount is decent and that means I can afford that bar of chocolate or other little treat for my child. Or something a bit nicer for their packed lunch as a one off.

It really isn't just luxuries, not anymore. It was at first but it's all over the shop now. At least where we are, anyway

But if the loyalty price scheme didn’t exist you wouldn’t be getting those discounts at all, not just when you forget your card.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 10:36

inamarina · 10/05/2024 10:34

But if the loyalty price scheme didn’t exist you wouldn’t be getting those discounts at all, not just when you forget your card.

Absolutely - we definitely did not get discounts before loyalty card prices.

NoWordForFluffy · 10/05/2024 10:41

Get rid of the loyalty offers and everyone will pay the higher price - why should some lose out just because others cannot benefit.

Or won't benefit, steadfastly refusing to engage in loyalty schemes for nothing more than stubbornness, from what I can tell!

And there are so many ageist posts on here. Being older / elderly does not mean you're incapable of engaging in participation with loyalty schemes!

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:45

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 10:18

That was a very long way of saying 'I don't care'.

And so the slippery slope continues...

but no-one is entitled to a discounts on products. The shops only do this (in whatever from BOGOF/loyalty prices etc) to get you to spend more money. Their only reason for any of this, is to get you in the shop and spending more money. None of this is new.
You can still buy basic and good food for a reasonable amount. You can also choose t pay more money for branded items, discounted or not. It really isn;t the responsibility of a supermarket to ensure you are getting your Frosties for a low/cheap price.

People seem to think Tesco, Asda etc are running some sort of charity and should be giving food away or something.

Pedallleur · 10/05/2024 10:48

Its irritating but I'm more concerned they are talking about dynamic pricing. If they are busy certain or all items rise in price.

chattyness · 10/05/2024 10:54

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:45

but no-one is entitled to a discounts on products. The shops only do this (in whatever from BOGOF/loyalty prices etc) to get you to spend more money. Their only reason for any of this, is to get you in the shop and spending more money. None of this is new.
You can still buy basic and good food for a reasonable amount. You can also choose t pay more money for branded items, discounted or not. It really isn;t the responsibility of a supermarket to ensure you are getting your Frosties for a low/cheap price.

People seem to think Tesco, Asda etc are running some sort of charity and should be giving food away or something.

I thought BOGOF deals were banned/withdrawn a few years ago ? I never see them now but they really were great.Then all of a sudden people started complaining about food waste and that was the end of them. If they didn't want the extra free item all they had to to was leave it on the shelf, donate it to a food bank, or take it home and make use if it, but no they started wringing their hands, weeping and wailing on the internet about it and just like that another great money saving scheme was gone!

YoungBritishPissArtist · 10/05/2024 10:55

LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 21:07

Just get a bloody loyalty card or go and shop at Aldi or lidl
It's actually very simple
Your choice

I don’t know about Aldi but Lidl have a loyalty app. I went in last night and they’ve introduced the two tier pricing on some products. So even discount retailers are at it!

chattyness · 10/05/2024 11:03

One of the money scamming things I find in smaller shops like spar, co-op, mccolls that I really don't like are things like this : £1.25 each or 2 for £2 , £2.50 each or each or 2 for £4 etc That forces you to spend more to get a cheaper price or pay more for one unit, that isn't fair in my eyes. Poorer people who don't have that money to juggle with will always miss out on deals like this whereas with bogof you didn't spend extra and you got more for your money

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 11:07

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 10:45

but no-one is entitled to a discounts on products. The shops only do this (in whatever from BOGOF/loyalty prices etc) to get you to spend more money. Their only reason for any of this, is to get you in the shop and spending more money. None of this is new.
You can still buy basic and good food for a reasonable amount. You can also choose t pay more money for branded items, discounted or not. It really isn;t the responsibility of a supermarket to ensure you are getting your Frosties for a low/cheap price.

People seem to think Tesco, Asda etc are running some sort of charity and should be giving food away or something.

No one is saying they should be a charity, but shouldn't shops exist for the benefit of society rather than society existing for the benefit of shops?

Do you seriously think that two-tier pricing is where they will stop when profits and growth always need to be going up and up and up?

We are frogs, slowly being boiled and most don't even realise it. Worse, some people seem to like it (I guess it is warm to start with after all).

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 12:07

ScottishScouser · 10/05/2024 10:20

I'm one of the ones that pay the monthly subscription to Tesco. Its either £7 or £7.99 - for that you get 10% off two shops a month up to a maximum of £40.

I drink a quite expensive ginger beer at £2.20 a bottle (fever tree) - tend to have a bottle a day.

So what I do is 30 x 2.20 = £66.00
Then I add on wine for the month = 4 x £20 = £80.00
That same shop I'll stock up on anything else that is a one off purchase per month - say, washing powder etc.

Even without the rest of the shop thats £14.60 saved - more than my monthly fee. I then pick one relatively high shop for the other 10%.

It gives you 10% off clothes permanently which as I tend to buy the cheap multi packs of knickers and only wear them a couple of times at most before I throw them out - saves me money there as well.

For those who say protect the vulnerable - when they got rid of first year promotions on insurance because it was unfair on those who could not shop around...... it did not lower the price on the renewals just made everyone pay the higher prices. So now the savvy have lost out just to make them pay the same as those who were not shopping around. No one benefitted.

Get rid of the loyalty offers and everyone will pay the higher price - why should some lose out just because others cannot benefit.

You spend £80 per month on wine alone???? That's a problem. A real problem

ScottishScouser · 10/05/2024 12:10

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 12:07

You spend £80 per month on wine alone???? That's a problem. A real problem

Two bottles per week between two of us
at the most. I don’t buy cheap wine!

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 12:10

There's always a Tory voter saying "they're not a charity" whenever anybody criticises a shop's prices/discount/promotions. It's really tiresome

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:11

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 10/05/2024 11:07

No one is saying they should be a charity, but shouldn't shops exist for the benefit of society rather than society existing for the benefit of shops?

Do you seriously think that two-tier pricing is where they will stop when profits and growth always need to be going up and up and up?

We are frogs, slowly being boiled and most don't even realise it. Worse, some people seem to like it (I guess it is warm to start with after all).

Shops exist only to make money.

EnglishBluebell · 10/05/2024 12:12

@ScottishScouser I would describe a bottle every single week per person a bit of a problem but I very rarely drink anything. So each to their own.

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:13

chattyness · 10/05/2024 11:03

One of the money scamming things I find in smaller shops like spar, co-op, mccolls that I really don't like are things like this : £1.25 each or 2 for £2 , £2.50 each or each or 2 for £4 etc That forces you to spend more to get a cheaper price or pay more for one unit, that isn't fair in my eyes. Poorer people who don't have that money to juggle with will always miss out on deals like this whereas with bogof you didn't spend extra and you got more for your money

That's been like that for decades... Nothing new at all.

It's almost as if the shops sole purpose is... To get you to spend more money... Hmmmm.

Ereyraa · 10/05/2024 12:13

No one is saying they should be a charity, but shouldn't shops exist for the benefit of society rather than society existing for the benefit of shops?

I’m not sure you understand business.

We are not actually a socialist country, despite what some people on MN think.

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:14

chattyness · 10/05/2024 10:54

I thought BOGOF deals were banned/withdrawn a few years ago ? I never see them now but they really were great.Then all of a sudden people started complaining about food waste and that was the end of them. If they didn't want the extra free item all they had to to was leave it on the shelf, donate it to a food bank, or take it home and make use if it, but no they started wringing their hands, weeping and wailing on the internet about it and just like that another great money saving scheme was gone!

BOGOF was banned during COVID as it encouraged people to go shopping / hoard or something, when there were supply and global health issues etc.

The supermarkets just marked everything as half price instead

HappyEater · 10/05/2024 12:15

Are clubcard prices Tory now then?

chattyness · 10/05/2024 12:29

WittiestUsernameEver · 10/05/2024 12:13

That's been like that for decades... Nothing new at all.

It's almost as if the shops sole purpose is... To get you to spend more money... Hmmmm.

I never said it was new, I know it's been like that for decades and it's crap