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Are any parties proposing to look into this two tier pricing that supermarkets do?

204 replies

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:12

I know that it wouldn't be as much of a concern but for the wider issue of the tories bankrupting the country, but it still sucks ass.

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StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 21:47

Businesses owe you nothing. Nothing.

They're not there to fill a social need. They're businesses.

In fact the most ethical socially conscious supermarket is Iceland. No loyalty cards. Good offers. And MN hate them lol!

Shop where you choose. But don't expect a Govt to regulate.

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 21:50

TeenLifeMum · 09/05/2024 21:01

I hate it but don’t think it’s a government issue. I’m shopping with Ocado and it’s cheaper than my Asda shop was, which surprised me.

Anti-competitive practices are absolutely something that government should and does concern itself with.

The supermarket grocery sector has been merrily price fixing for a long time - I bet you've seen it yourself if you think about it; you'll have noticed the "discounted" prices rotate across shops - it's most noticeable on high price items like eg mega boxes of Surf etc. Bad enough, but in the current context of huge price fluctuations (which are in no small part down to continuing economic uncertainty engendered by poor government fiscal decisions) this additional layer of price volatility is legitimately deserving of government attention.

I just wondered if any of the parties were proposing to have a look. They keep going on about the "cost of living crisis", after all.

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FlabMonsterIsDietingAgain · 09/05/2024 21:54

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

That isn't true though.

I've just used the Trolley app to look up several of the products on Clubcard prices at random, and for all the items the original Tesco price was identical to several other supermarkets, cheaper in one or 2 and more expensive in others. The Clubcard price is cheaper than all supermarkets, except for a couple of exceptions where Aldi had the product cheaper, like Jaffa Cakes.

So Tesco haven't bumped up the price of those products in order to falsely offer a cheaper Clubcard price, unless you think the other supermarkets are helping Tesco out by upping their prices to match so Tesco can still look good.

Houseplanter · 09/05/2024 21:56

So much angst about just getting a card.. when our data is collected so much anyway I really cba with a bit more

Anyone who pays with their phone has no reason not to just add another card to their wallet.. the rest just add it to your key ring

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 21:57

They're not "helping Tesco out" but they do fix according to what competitors are planning on doing.

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MigGirl · 09/05/2024 21:59

WittiestUsernameEver · 09/05/2024 20:55

Also, club card is nothing new. It's been around decades. And they always gave you money off vouchers for particular items , as well as the "cash" vouchers...
So you could get 50p of a pot of Skyr that would usually be £2 and use the £3 Tesco coupon to buy the two pots of discounted yoghurt for 'free'

Those same people you're claiming are being discriminated against were never able to get that same discount or vouchers.

How is clubcard prices any different?

Example;

The year is 2007: If you have a clubcard you get 50p of X item by using a voucher we posted to you.

The year is 2024: if you have a clubcard you get 50p of X item... (We just don't have to waste money sending you the voucher)

What's the difference???

Actually the difference is they are doing both. Although my coupons are electronic now and avaible to use against my online shop.

The only really useful ones are the £5 off a shop though. I believe you can still use them instore with the app.

I would often flit between tesco and Sainburys as if you hadn't shopped in one or the other for a while they would give you another voucher off your shopping.

But the loyalty card pricing is slightly different then the discount codes as when they introduce it prices of items not on club card price actually went up. The club card price was the original price not an actual discount. How they managed that now with swapping discounts around I haven't worked out.

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 22:01

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 20:51

What a good bunch of compliant consumers we appear to have raised. Milton Friedman would be delighted.

I shop around, and get the best bargain/ offer that suits me. I don't get misled by loss leaders. I do take full advantage of discounts, on products that I would buy anyway... how am I 'compliant'?

Example- today I have got 60 Nectar points on toilet rolls that I would have bought anyway, cost £6, and 40 Nectar points on cheese, cost £3.25. That's 50 pence in money in my pot. For nothing Nada. No coercion. Just points back that I save for Christmas.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 22:02

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 21:42

Could you explain what you mean please?

If they do that then I'll vote with my feet and shop elsewhere.

As a PP said, we shop where we want to 🤷🏻‍♀️

I just think it’s the obvious next step. Currently most loyalty cards are free (though not all) but I can’t see that lasting.

MigGirl · 09/05/2024 22:03

LakeTiticaca · 09/05/2024 21:07

Just get a bloody loyalty card or go and shop at Aldi or lidl
It's actually very simple
Your choice

And if we have no Aldi or Lidl within a reasonable distance, what then? Not everywhere has all supermarkets.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 22:03

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 22:01

I shop around, and get the best bargain/ offer that suits me. I don't get misled by loss leaders. I do take full advantage of discounts, on products that I would buy anyway... how am I 'compliant'?

Example- today I have got 60 Nectar points on toilet rolls that I would have bought anyway, cost £6, and 40 Nectar points on cheese, cost £3.25. That's 50 pence in money in my pot. For nothing Nada. No coercion. Just points back that I save for Christmas.

You are a marketers dream.

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 22:04

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 22:02

I just think it’s the obvious next step. Currently most loyalty cards are free (though not all) but I can’t see that lasting.

Isn't there already a third tier of Tesco pricing that you have to pay to access? That to me seems really shady - customers will be mindful of sunk costs.

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Soigneur · 09/05/2024 22:04

MoreDangerousThanAWomanScorned · 09/05/2024 20:38

Where did you get your law degree?

The old-fashioned way. Saved up for it with Co-op stamps.

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 22:04

VeraForever · 09/05/2024 21:03

I feel very much for the very elderly and vulnerable who may not have access to computers/tablets.

They probably don't realise that prices are lower for card holders.

I think it's wrong.

So elderly people who have had a club card since their 50s won't understand?

Vulnerable people who have carers/ families/ advocates can't learn?

Seriously?

ConspiracyTheory · 09/05/2024 22:06

TheYearOfSmallThings · 09/05/2024 21:02

I hate it too, OP, and I think it is shit. It also means visitors from abroad get gouged because obviously they can't get a card.

That's because they'll never need health care here.

I think it's actually leading into a social credit system, like in China. Rewards for 'good behaviour', punishment for non-compliance or bad decisions.

You need a heart transplant? Let's check what you've been eating. Bacon, hard cheese, and beer? And McDonald's twice a week? Uh sorry, back of the bus for you!

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 22:07

@DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm stop sneering and explain yourself.

VeraForever · 09/05/2024 22:10

My mum’s 84. She doesn’t understand. She has a Waitrose card and that’s it. It’s her nearest supermarket .
if I take her to Tesco , which is every three months or so, for a change , she doesn’t have a card.
yes I should get her one , but why? She shouldn’t need one. She would get her shopping at a normal price.
Youre being ageist.

AlpineMuesli · 09/05/2024 22:10

If most people are satisfied then they won’t care about anyone else. Some might even enjoy the little thrill of being exempt. Customers like feeling special, don’t they?

And no parties will do anything because most people are keen to sell their data for discounts.

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 22:10

Soigneur · 09/05/2024 22:04

The old-fashioned way. Saved up for it with Co-op stamps.

Plot twist : co-op now has not only done away with stamps, they also don't give points. The only thing the card does is give you access to different pricing. (And a lifelong spot on Cambridge Analytica).

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MigGirl · 09/05/2024 22:11

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 22:04

Isn't there already a third tier of Tesco pricing that you have to pay to access? That to me seems really shady - customers will be mindful of sunk costs.

Yes there is a club card plus you pay a monthly subscription for and can get something like 10% off one weekly shop over a certain amount when shopping in store only. That annoyed me.to when they brought it in, it's only really worth it for families as you need to save more then it costs and if.you can't shop in store you can't use it either.

I'm actually quite surprised other suppermarkets haven't brought them in yet.

NoWordForFluffy · 09/05/2024 22:11

Taciturn · 09/05/2024 20:45

Yes, I do object to them
They is discriminate against homeless and those without fixed address, who them have to pay premium prices. One store went so far as to bar entry without scanning a "membership" card.

They also dont offer "discounted" prices, these are the regular prices and the non clubcard placed at a premium.
I heard there is a court case pending...I will see if I can find further information.

Actually, the discounted prices are discounted from the normal prices in Sainsbury's (when I take advantage of the offers on the things I usually buy).

Also, we're not all daft re price per kg etc. I only buy the - e.g. cheese - offers if they're better value than the item I usually buy. I appreciate not everybody is as switched on, however.

DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm · 09/05/2024 22:13

StMarieforme · 09/05/2024 22:07

@DontSetYourselfOnFireToKeepOthersWarm stop sneering and explain yourself.

There are lots of resources on the internet that would be much better at explaining the psychology and profitablity of supermarket loyalty schemes than I would be. Up to you if you want to go and find them.

LaWench · 09/05/2024 22:16

Big data is big business these days. I take all sorts of retail bribes for my data. If someone needs to know that I buy baby plum tomatoes instead of salad tomatoes then good for them. I use spam email addresses that I don't ever open and an old mobile number, I'm just a customer number in a huge amount of data.

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/05/2024 22:18

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 20:40

Your mum's garden shed

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Ome top quality debating there, have you thought of standing for parliament yourself?

AdoraBell · 09/05/2024 22:20

How much do government inquiries cost tax payers OP ?

GordonBlue · 09/05/2024 22:21

BarcardiWithGadaffia · 09/05/2024 22:18

Ome top quality debating there, have you thought of standing for parliament yourself?

Yeah I will, just as soon as I get an inheritance parcel and a lobotomy.

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