Piers Morgan interview with real Baby Reindeer Martha

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I am strangely looking forward to hearing her side….shame it’s with Piers Morgan though 🙈

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/tv/baby-reindeer-real-martha-piers-morgan-fiona-harvey-richard-gadd-112360-20240508

The amount of posts criticising RG for not being the perfect victim is insane. He was stalked, he shouldn't need to be a shining cherub in order to be believed.

It highlights the fact that just because someone isn’t “perfect”, it doesn’t mean they are not a victim. Society struggles with that though.

Like PPs have said, I can't get my head round him saying he'd changed so many details she wouldn't recognise herself.

A. He played himself
B. The program was about a stalker

I mean at this point, surely she'd know it was about her?

Add in the Scottish bit, the lawyer, the real messages, the weight issue and the fact that the actress looked similar... I mean, come on, at least he should own that he knew she'd be identifiable but felt it was his right to tell his story.

If it’s made up presumably she can sue for defamation?

You only have to visit her FB page that there is a strong likelihood every bit of it is true!

I assumed perhaps wrongly that Netflix would have seen some of the emails, texts etc

Precisely, If it were a man nobody would be concerned about his mental health while slating a rape victim for not behaving like enough of a victim (whatever the hell that means)
I read that she's now slating piers Morgan for making her come across badly, nice to see she's learnt how to take responsibility for her own actions.
I do understand that a better mental health system would mean less criminal behaviour and that would benefit all of us but as you said she is a sex offender, so screw her along with every man or woman who's done the same.

We don't know if she sexually assaulted him, not everything was based on real life. She goes to jail in BR but in real life she wasn't sentenced at all. The real Martha didn't attack Teri either, so which bit is true and what is fabricated for entertainment. She is clearly mentally unstable and seems to live online. She is now being stalked by the media and random people from all over the world are adding her to group chats for a laugh.

And again, I do not know this woman and I dont have an iphone lol but again them accounts may not be her. They might all be, she might be totally unhinged etc but we do not know this. All we know is some bloke who was already in the industry did a docuseries type thing casting himself as the main character in a series allegedly about his life. And said it was true. Then some woman who looks like the series character says shes the person from it and all these fb pages are made up and posts being put up but we do not know it was her actually setting the accounts up or posting. It could be, it will be interesting to see what she says but her biggest mistake ever was agreeing to go on Piers show. Again unless this is all a pile of made up shite to get them both notoriety.

I completely agree!

It is no different to saying women who are stalked or raped were asking for it because of ‘what they were wearing, their job, walking alone etc’.

We wouldn’t be giving a male stalker any air time to ‘give his side of the story’ so why is this acceptable.

@Trulyme because it would not be a television series you would assume.

But surely we shouldn't assume or expect anything from victims. They are free to make television series if they want to. It doesn't make them any less of a victim.

Absolutely. IF they are the victim. He could be just making it all up. We dont know what is fact from fiction. Im very sceptical I have to say.

I doubt she is mentally capable of working with anyone, only one of her fb pages belongs to her, the rest are fake profiles. She comes across lonely and lives online. I do empathise with her as it seems that her mental illness started so young in her university days, none of this would've happened if he didn't make her so identifiable and blurred the lines of realilty&fiction. Now everyone is stalking her, and in her mind she is gaining friends.

@Psychoticbreak

Not many people lie about sexual abuse, so assume he's telling the truth. I wouldn't dream of asking any rape Victim to prove it (and many can't) doesn't mean it didn't happen.

Is there not some woman in prison in England who lied and said she was the victim of a grooming gang? No not many would but some do. I just think this entire thing is strange and she herself was also very quick to acknowledge she was the Martha but shes not really Martha but she could be Martha and now she is doing this interview.

On the plus side if she is this person and does need help maybe now she can get it.

none of this would've happened if he didn't make her so identifiable and blurred the lines of realilty&fiction

Do you think people would have not found her if she was less identifiable? Would she not have outed herself? Lots of “true” stories are not 100% accurate. I’m not sure how they can be, if you asked 5 plane crash survivors for their stories they would have some variations.

Now everyone is stalking her,

I do think it’s wrong that some of the very same people who think she’s bad for stalking are doing it to her.

I feel really uncomfortable about Richard Gadd, he seems to be an arrogant twat who is happy to exploit this woman's MH difficulties for his own fame. By displaying the abuse he suffered at producers hands as he descended into serious drug addiction we are expected to make the Martha story balanced out. I hate this whole thing, the show, the story and don't see how it can end well.

Sorry @PTSDBarbiegirl I was trying to copy this to say I totally agree with you.

But his show was for entertainment that had some truth to it. She was identifiable because he didn't change anything, from being Scottish to her looks, job, the way she writes etc. It was also very easy to find her on fb because of the way she writes and her manic rants, its how the media got hold of her. There is a documantary on Netflix about two brothers and its easy to see that it isn't all true but people didn't go snooping because the characters were not identifiable and they focused on their own truama not the abusers.

I am afraid I can endorse Minerva's view (my experience was between 02 and 04) and this is giving FH exactly what she wants.

I'm in two minds as to whether to watch.

This is is massively unethical I don't even know what to say. I thought we were past the days of the colosseum and the baying mob. Clearly not.

Er did you miss the part where she made his life a misery? She glassed him, stalked him and his family and tried to twist it that it was him and play the victim. He owes her nothing. I sure as hell wouldn't pay out any money on someone who put me through hell and neither should Richard Gad.

She outed herself for god sake there's no case.

I'm also surprised at the attitude towards Richard Gad if he were a woman and Martha was a man I'm sure opinion's would be very different.

She glassed him in the series, he doesn't say that she did it in real life. Not everything in the show happened in real life. She wouldn't have outed herself if people and media didn't stalk her. Everyone is now taking advanatge of a mentally ill woman for their own gain.

No you aren't I have none either. I have a mental health disorder and I don't stalk and harass people when I'm going through a shit time either. Mental health is no excuse for what she did. It certainly explains her behaviour. She has made people's lives a misery and now she's getting a platform to continue to do so.