Piers Morgan interview with real Baby Reindeer Martha

[Luxell934]

I am strangely looking forward to hearing her side….shame it’s with Piers Morgan though 🙈

https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/tv/baby-reindeer-real-martha-piers-morgan-fiona-harvey-richard-gadd-112360-20240508

This is such a valid question. It all seems a bit too strange to be real

There seems an unusual amount of sympathy and empathy for the perpetrator rather than the victim ( victims)

He did not have to say it was true though (when parts of it were not, when it said she went to jail for example). He could have disguised it better and said it was based on a true story. He could have changed a lot more details about her. He could have not quoted directly.

As for her getting help - what kind of help do people suggest? Being nasty is not a MH condition. Being delusional is, but it is notoriously hard to treat. I used to work in psychiatric hospitals and there were people with extreme delusions we never managed to cure - the boy who thought his whole family were imposters who had kidnapped him comes to mind. And that was with the best treatment and medication available. Hallucinations, by contrast, are a snap to treat.

There are lots of people walking around who are delusional - conspiracy theorists, that relative with odd views, the slightly paranoid coworker. There are tons of people in the public eye who are convinced they are more intelligent/attractive/capable than they are and who would not be classed as mentally ill. You cant detain people on the chance they may do something in future. You cant force them to get treatment or accept they have a problem they don't accept. I think this woman is a good illustration of these real world difficulties.

I have to say that as much as I want people to speak their truth, in this case, I think what he has done is at odds with what he said he wanted to do.

Unfortunately, mentally unwell or not, if you victimise another human being you have to accept that their victimhood is their story to do whatever they want with. No victim should be required to pander to their abusers mental health, that is not his obligation.

It is sad that she’s clearly mentally unwell and that the state and system has obviously failed her, but it also failed Richard Gadd and I can’t put this at his door. In the same way if a young girl was sexually assaulted by a mental ill older man, I would support her in whatever route she took to deal with it.

To those feeling sorry for her she recieved two custodial sentences! These are not handed out lightly in the UK.

I would hazard a guess that the vast majority of stalkers have mental health problems - irrespective of this they still need to be held accountable for their actions.

And would those feeling sorry for Martha feel the same if it was a male stalking a woman? I think not.

I don't really understand all the support for 'Martha'.

She made Gadd's life hell and many others before him.

I do agree that 'Darrien' has somehow managed to coast...although the purple that know know.

*people

@PTSDBarbiegirl You've articulated my own feelings on this far better than I could have. It all feels fucking sordid, to be honest.

How interesting. I haven’t seen the show but I was the victim of fairly mild stalking which really upset me for a long, long time. I have zero sympathy for any stalker as a result.

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I'm surprised how many people are saying she is more of a victim than Gadd because she had MH problems. So does Gadd! But only one of them attacked the other one and their family.

Lots of people in prison are mentally unwell, and they all have victims who I feel more sorry for

I am still surprised that people without a single shred of proof are still saying she did this. None of us know. There has not been actual proof and again no sign of custodial sentances. All of this could be a total fabrication. They could have fabricated it together for all we know. I dont think the whole truth will ever be revealed.

I'm assuming you can just watch even if your subscribed or not like every other youtube video. Whilst I would like to watch, I'm not giving my money to PM if you have to pay.

https://www.youtube.com/@PiersMorganUncensored/videos

Tomorrow at 8pm

@Luxell934 same.

She is clearly significantly more mentally ill/disturbed than he is. The two things are not really comparable.

Stalking is horrendous. But I also think that somebody engaging in her behaviour needs psychiatric treatment, not publicity.

Reading this all with interest. I haven't watched it but the whole thing is really quite bizarre. It strikes me how obsessed people are with fame and how those who are part of that world seem to live in a slight fantasy world all of the time.

Her choice to appear on tv, so no pity.

I mean, he is perfectly entitled to use his life as a tool for writing. He went through something horrific, which can’t be discounted just because she had MH issues.

She literally came out and named herself

Oh this is horrible. I enjoyed BR and support Gadd's right to tell his story, but this is exploitative on the part of Morgan and his production company.

Struggling to understand how people are throwing support behind FH/"Martha" when she stalked not just Richard Gadd but others too. She may be unhinged, it doesn't mean she needs sympathy.

The amount of posts criticising RG for not being the perfect victim is insane. He was stalked, he shouldn't need to be a shining cherub in order to be believed.

Also, to the people feeling sympathy, she allegedly sexually assaulted him as well.

There seems an unusual amount of sympathy and empathy for the perpetrator rather than the victim ( victims)

it’s really out & since when has the mental health card been a caveat. I mean plenty of murderers, rapists, terrorists, pedophiles are mentally ill.

Odd not out!

The word though to go on is 'allegedly'. There really is no actual proof. That is my only issue. Again I dont care. Matters not a jot to me but I would like to see her side too.