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Why do you think some people have no friends?

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GoodnightJude1 · 03/05/2024 20:01

In your experience why do you think some people have no friends?

Is it because they’re not a nice person?
Is it because they don’t make enough effort with people?
Is it because they only talk about themselves?

OP posts:
Rifalo · 03/05/2024 21:46

Mine all fell by the wayside when my little boy was diagnosed as terminally ill....... Fairly certain that wasn't my fault.

Eastie77Returns · 03/05/2024 21:48

I have 5 really close friends I’ve known for 20+ years and that’s my lot. I’m not interested in forging any new friendships beyond that so everyone else I know goes into the casual acquaintance box.

My close friends are scattered around the country, we chat a lot online but only meet up in person a few times a year. This is fine for me as I enjoy my own company and am happy to go to the cinema or theatre on my own. I see it as my down time from my hectic job and home life with 2 school aged DC.

I’d consider myself friendly and a pleasant person but I have absolutely zero interest in making new friends. We moved house a couple of years ago and some of the school run mums invited me for coffee etc. I went out of politeness but didn’t follow up and ask them back to mine and they do not bother with me now (I completely understand why).

Since my handful of close friends do not live close to me I probably come across as someone who has ‘no friends’😅

FunnysInLaJardin · 03/05/2024 21:48

Do people really not have friends? I have 7 or 8 really good friends.

Although thinking about it my probably autistic dad and sister (non diagnosed - too long ago) have/had very few friends

FunnysInLaJardin · 03/05/2024 21:49

FunnysInLaJardin · 03/05/2024 21:48

Do people really not have friends? I have 7 or 8 really good friends.

Although thinking about it my probably autistic dad and sister (non diagnosed - too long ago) have/had very few friends

however none of my BF live near me. They are scattered all over, Spain, Australia, Yorkshire!

LightSpeeds · 03/05/2024 21:50

Comedycook · 03/05/2024 20:04

Loads of horrible people have friends.

I think a lot comes down to shyness and a lack of confidence

^This.

notzoe · 03/05/2024 21:50

FunnysInLaJardin · 03/05/2024 21:48

Do people really not have friends? I have 7 or 8 really good friends.

Although thinking about it my probably autistic dad and sister (non diagnosed - too long ago) have/had very few friends

Not a one here. Genuinely if anything happened between my DH and I I wouldn’t speak to another adult other than work colleagues and parents.

TextureSeeker · 03/05/2024 21:51

I don't have many friends. For me it's because I moved a lot and I'm extremely, private and guarded. I was emotionally abused as a child and find it really, really difficult to trust people or let them get close to me. I had everything about me picked apart as for my whole childhood. If I don't let people in, don't let people know anything about me, they can't pick me apart, can't hurt me. I've heard of it referred to before as the lone wolf trauma response, its not a part of me I particularly like but I'm too scared to do the therapy(because it means I'd have to stop being so private and let someone in!) so at this point I am who I am.

GoodnightJude1 · 03/05/2024 21:54

Thankyou to everyone that has taken the time to offer their insight.

I’m quite low tonight and I’m struggling. I blame myself for my lack of friends. I think my dad instilled a sense of worthlessness in me that I find hard to shake off. I can chat to people, I make a conscious effort to listen and not just talk. All my friendships seem to end though. I have no friends from school, college, work….

I don’t ever call anyone, not even my DH because I feel like I’m disturbing them, like they’d be annoyed with me. I think that makes people think I’m not bothered. I am…I guess I just don’t feel important enough to take up space in their day.

I’m quite pathetic really.

OP posts:
Rippledipple · 03/05/2024 21:57

Speaking from experience, probably neurodivergent. Unless you find your own kind, it's pretty much a life of rejection. Passing as normal is useful for surface interaction, but it only takes something slightly 'off' to give me away. I'm never sure what but I can spot it immediately in someone's expression when they sense something not quite normal (and they back away slowly!)

Rippledipple · 03/05/2024 22:00

Rifalo · 03/05/2024 21:46

Mine all fell by the wayside when my little boy was diagnosed as terminally ill....... Fairly certain that wasn't my fault.

How do people sleep at night. So sorry, Rifalo.

Icehockeyflowers · 03/05/2024 22:04

GoodnightJude1 · 03/05/2024 21:54

Thankyou to everyone that has taken the time to offer their insight.

I’m quite low tonight and I’m struggling. I blame myself for my lack of friends. I think my dad instilled a sense of worthlessness in me that I find hard to shake off. I can chat to people, I make a conscious effort to listen and not just talk. All my friendships seem to end though. I have no friends from school, college, work….

I don’t ever call anyone, not even my DH because I feel like I’m disturbing them, like they’d be annoyed with me. I think that makes people think I’m not bothered. I am…I guess I just don’t feel important enough to take up space in their day.

I’m quite pathetic really.

I think upbringing has a huge bearing on your adult relationships.

I think my own father was like yours. There were a lot of put downs and criticism and I felt unwanted from a young age. I spent a lot of time on my own in my room staying out of the way, mostly reading and playing imaginary games. I don't remember ever wanting to try new things but I suppose there must have been times I asked if I could do something and the reply was always no so I stopped asking. I wasn't exposed to new things and then felt inadequate, uninteresting and useless.

I lived abroad for a while and can honestly say it was the only time in my life I felt truly happy and free I found I made friends so easily at that stage of my life. I felt the same as everyone else.

Then I moved back here and to a new city and found it harder again. The old feelings resurfaced. Family members made constant put downs and I retreated.

alrightluv · 03/05/2024 22:04

@GoodnightJude1 I'm sorry to hear that.
What sort of things do you like to do?
Maybe you just need to find your type of friends? I'd say I was late 30s before I started finding real friends. I had drinking friends etc.
I'm in my 50s now and have some lovely friends.
Please don't give up.

MsMuffinWalloper · 03/05/2024 22:04

If I'm your friend it's pretty hard to piss me off to the point I won't try to sort out an issue. However I have had 3 friends in the last 7 years I have fallen out with (yes, I give lots of chances, apologise first, keep trying to sort out issues) but IMO some people...

  1. Can not ever apologise. Ever and despite any evidence showing they should.
  2. People will sometimes refuse to drop a point that is highly offensive to the other party. They will bring it up repeatedly and sometimes escalate it.
  3. People expect far too much and refuse to understand the other person has a life that doesn't revolve around them. They may spend a huge amount of time on cards and presents and be almost obsessive about getting "equal" back to what they feel they have given and are very easily slighted.
WhatACluster · 03/05/2024 22:05

Sorry @GoodnightJude1 i can’t really answer your question, but for me it’s simply that I just don’t like people, never have never will. I have probably 5 people who I would call actual proper friends the rest are just people I know and at some point been forced socialise with 🤷‍♀️

I am perfectly content with my own company and that of my husband. I could happily go weeks without seeing or speaking to anyone ( I don’t count the dogs and cats)

People tell dh all the time that I am lovely kind etc no idea why as I don’t really engage with them

AsYouMightBe · 03/05/2024 22:07

GoodnightJude1 · 03/05/2024 21:54

Thankyou to everyone that has taken the time to offer their insight.

I’m quite low tonight and I’m struggling. I blame myself for my lack of friends. I think my dad instilled a sense of worthlessness in me that I find hard to shake off. I can chat to people, I make a conscious effort to listen and not just talk. All my friendships seem to end though. I have no friends from school, college, work….

I don’t ever call anyone, not even my DH because I feel like I’m disturbing them, like they’d be annoyed with me. I think that makes people think I’m not bothered. I am…I guess I just don’t feel important enough to take up space in their day.

I’m quite pathetic really.

You’re not pathetic, but you must see that if you don’t value yourself, it’s a bit much to expect other people to estimate you more highly?

alrightluv · 03/05/2024 22:07

I think @MsMuffinWalloper has a point.
I own my mistakes. Too many people can't accept they're not right all the time.

iamnatalia83 · 03/05/2024 22:08

Number 2 I would say

GoodnightJude1 · 03/05/2024 22:09

@alrightluv

I love music. I guess it’s my escape. Oasis mainly and the Foo Fighters. I’m seeing them both this year (well Liam)

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ForestDad · 03/05/2024 22:09

Being negative all the time won't get you many friends. Who wants to spend time with someone who is always miserable or seems like they need cheering up.

ChorizoDog · 03/05/2024 22:10

I honestly believe there is a genetic factor. My DD doesn't have any friends really. Her father has always struggled with friendships too.
My DD is such a lovely person. She's a good friend to people, thoughtful, kind, funny. I feel for her as she has always wanted a best friend.

ForgettingMeNot · 03/05/2024 22:12

I have work colleagues but there's not one person I have that I would call a friend.

It's not because any of the reasons in OPs post though. I'm Autistic and struggle socially. I can talk to people if I have to for work but once the day is over I'm done being social, it's just too much

TerriPie · 03/05/2024 22:13

I get nervous meeting people and know I miss obvious social queues like:-

New person at a wedding- "Oh I love you dress"

Me "Oh thank you, it was in the sales last year, I'm really pleased to be wearing it"

Me - Silence

New person - Silence

New person - moves away awkwardly....

Not me "oh thank you, your dress is lovely too, that colour really suits you and your accessories go so well with it. Do you know the bride well, I used to go to school with her"

I know I do this all the time, too busy figuring out what to say I forget to reciprocate and kill the conversation.

whosthefoolnow · 03/05/2024 22:13

notzoe · 03/05/2024 20:06

Neurodivergent

This

BuddhaAtSea · 03/05/2024 22:15

In my mind, a friend is someone I can share with. Ideas, laughs, food, drink, troubles, knowing looks, silence etc.
For that, you need to want to share.

I like running, I asked a lady from my running club who I noticed lived near me, if she’d be up for a run first thing in the morning before work sometimes. For safety mainly, for company and for that much needed kick up the arse when it’s 5.45 and the last thing you want is to get out of bed. She agreed, it’s been about 5 years since we’re running once a week at stupid o’clock. She’s a close friend, we talk about anything. I feed her cats when she goes on holiday, we bring each other little presents from our travels and she knows where my spare key is.

At the same time, I asked a colleague who was complaining about safety/motivation on her runs, if she’d like to run together. I’ve known her 20 years, we get on well. She looked horrified: no, I like running on my own. No biggie, I left the invite open. Then I remembered over the years she’s always complained about not having any friends, quite bitterly when she had a health problem. I also remember her coming year after year to my DD’s birthday with her similar age child, but not once returning the invite, not even for a play date. I remember her not wanting to support one of our colleagues’ debut in a play, ‘it will be cringy’, and bitterly complaining how nobody supported her in one of her endeavours.

So…

MsMuffinWalloper · 03/05/2024 22:17

alrightluv · 03/05/2024 22:07

I think @MsMuffinWalloper has a point.
I own my mistakes. Too many people can't accept they're not right all the time.

Thank you - each line explained the falling out of each of the 3 but a couple had overlapping elements.

I really don't deal well with people who think they are always right, nicer and cleverer than anyone. I have texts from this one being very rude and nasty to me repeatedly and refusing to apologise. When she couldn't see it even written out in front of her I had to call it a day.