Thread 43 Sunak - Seriously Scapegoating

[DuncinToffee]

Buckle up for the local elections 🍿

Previous thread here
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5059786-thread-42-sunak-ping-pong-with-the-enemies-of-the-people?page=40

But they surely can’t just stay in the same constituency and stand for Labour? Can they? Would anyone trust them enough vote for them?

He was a candidate in the last leadership contest wasn't he? Knocked out early doors.

No. They don't transfer over. I don't see what point there is defecting unless there is a career incentive. A lot of Tory MPs will be looking for jobs. Some may be trying their luck with Labour: a bit desperate

Yes, you are right, I googled it.

Wiki
On 10 July 2022 Chishti announced his bid to succeed Boris Johnson in the Conservative Party leadership election. He withdrew two days later, having failed to win the support of any other Conservative MPs, before endorsing Tom Tugendhat and subsequently Rishi Sunak.

Conservative MP for Gillingham and Rainham.

Oh do we think they might be putting him against Rishi?
A further right idol to win back Reformers?

Oh, no he sounds too sensible (remainer who resigned his role because of the rule of law and wanted UK to honour it's commitments) they'd never let one of those near the top seat, although he did help with persecuted christians and was in the army at one point, so possibly niche similar interests?

From wiki again:
Chishti assumed the role in a time of renewed focus on international religious freedom, with the United States Government under the leader of US Vice President Michael Pence and Secretary of State Michael Pompeo initiating the Ministerial to Advance Religious Freedom.[44] Chishti was tasked with implementing the recommendations in the Bishop of Truro's Report on Persecuted Christians, as well as championing a firm stance on Freedom of Religion or Belief for all, which was a top priority for the Government, as made clear by the Prime Minister Boris Johnson in response to a question by Chishti during a Commons debate in October 2019.[45][46]
On 15 September 2020, Chishti resigned as special envoy on freedom of religion or belief in protest at the Internal Market Bill. In his resignation letter, Chishti said that his resignation was a matter of principle, regarding specifically his respect for the rule of law, hence why he could not agree to the initial drafting of the IMB, which would have enabled Ministers and Government unilaterally to withdraw from commitments with the European Union and breach international law. In the same letter, Chishti made clear his deeply held convictions of respect for the rule of law and honouring commitments, and that he had suggested to the government that they should accept an amendment by Conservative MP Bob Neill that would have enabled Parliamentary scrutiny and oversight, thereby respecting Parliamentary sovereignty before the UK Government ever considered departing from an agreement approved by Parliament. The Government had initially not accepted the amendment, but later did accept it along with Chishti's advice for a full debate on the matter, thereby ensuring Parliamentary sovereignty.[47]

Very sad to hear about the death of Bernard Hill. I loved him in Shirley Valentine, one of my all-time favourite films.

And he is on tv nqow in The Responder, bbc1. Last piece of work I guess. RIP Bernard.

Telegraph reporting that Number 10 has shelved plans for a summer election.

x.com/lewis_goodall/status/1787226746523210073?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

Shame.

It seems he’s still dithering.

Mr Sunak is not expected to publicly rule out a summer election until a final, binding decision has been made with his core team of advisers.

Does he think it’ll get better if he leaves it longer?

It's all about the money they can make,

I posted something about it on an earlier thread but can't remember which one.

Who knows? But apparently George Osborne has told him that the longer he leaves it the worse it will be.

IIRC, ds' money is on 17 October (or was it 10th?) for the election. Says that they're unlikely to recall Parliament during the summer recess in order to call an election, hence mid-late October.

To be fair there are a lot of threads at the moment!

I think you may be right @cardibach . He isn't used to failure and has probably never experienced it. Who wants to leave a job as an evident failure? I think we're stuck with him as he ploughs onwards, clutching his 5 promises, and won't leave until he can say he's delivered on them, then invite us to choose successful Rishi or Loser Commie Starmer at a GE. Any fault then would lie with the ill-informed electorate- that's us - for making a poor choice. And unblemished Rishi will head for the California sun.

I like this one;

It is reassuring that British people would rather vote for a man with a bin on his head than a fascist

https://twitter.com/EuropeanUnity1/status/1787118287995773412

All these threads on private school tax are quite something

Sunak has now conceded his parry will lose the next GE but is warning of a Labour coalition

Are we supposed to quietly not notice that his party is actually the "Conservative and Unionist Party" because it's a coalition with the DUP?

That's a very good point @InMySpareTime I had forgotten about it.

If he concedes that, he concedes that the electorate doesn't want his government and he should get on and call that election.

@InMySpareTime - the "and Unionist" Party in the "Conservative and Unionist Party" name is nothing to do with the DUP can't believe I'm defending the Conservatives

It is linked to Ireland though - but goes back well over a 100 years when they linked up with the "Liberal Unionists" who'd split with the Liberals because of their [the Liberals] support for Irish Home Rule.

But they do have a C&S arrangement with the DUP, and are the party of the most recent coalition of chaos.

Do you think Labour are considering that they may not win enough seats to form a majority Government, and that they will be more outspoken/condemning about what's happening in Gaza to try & win back some of the support they've lost to independents?