Thread 43 Sunak - Seriously Scapegoating

[DuncinToffee]

Buckle up for the local elections 🍿

Previous thread here
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5059786-thread-42-sunak-ping-pong-with-the-enemies-of-the-people?page=40

I still feel it's as though someone in the Tory party forgot to pay Cambridge Analytica this year, or opted for a cheaper knock-off version so they could spend more on DC's jet.

That may be closer to the truth than you believe. One of the common factors in the downfall of despotic regimes is an increasing inability to recognise what is really important. A little like drug barons not bothering to pay for car insurance and having to explain how they got caught to A wing.

The decline and fall of the Nazi party was against a backdrop of paring costs.

If I had known Laurence Fox would leave London, it would have made the best Sadiq Khan campaign a simpler one.

After all, think of all the people who voted Labour in 1997 because Phil Collins said he would leave the UK (and to be fair, Mr Collins did keep his promise).

I caught a podcast (Pod save the UK) with AB a few months ago. It was interesting that he said he now had no interest in national politics as he was able to effect (and affect 😀) real change as mayor, and he'd rather do that for his part of the country.

I wonder what effect the whole VAT/schools thing had ? If any.

It has effect on MN frothing going by the recent threads

Wow.
That DM front page is....just....wow 😲😃

I was rather thing of the real world.

Is there any sign that the issue translated into real votes one way or another ?

Anyone hear a violin as they smell smoke ?

Returning to BAU, totally as I predicted. But they've cashed the cheque.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68961058

I think in the real world it is actually a popular policy.

I hope the Conservatives paid Isaac Levido in instalments for this "Plan"

I've just checked and turnout in 1997 was 71% - 6.4% down on 1992, which surprised me.

I conclude (having lived through it) that some tories who didn't want to vote for Majors government (anyone else look back on the "sleeze" of that time with almost fondness??? Seems so quaint now!) stayed at home.

@serendipityjane
Yeah. Not something that would have been predicted AT ALL.

It's not like Rwanda are laughing whilst cashing the cheque to fund their upcoming war with DRC!?

Has Sunak been spotted yet?

"It's not like Rwanda are laughing whilst cashing the cheque to fund their upcoming war with DRC!?"

Well look at it this way - we are probably selling them the arms, so the money will trickle back via private companies.

I noticed on local Facebook groups yesterday a spate of Labour bashing threads. To anyone with any sense they don’t add up ie grass verges are not being cut due to paying billions to house illegal migrants in 4* hotels and Labour bankrupting the economy and decimating services. I remember similar allegations against the EU prior to the referendum. They are all made by people with limited profiles.

I also note that Rwanda gave the Tories a fig leaf to blame Labour with by claiming how hurt and upset they are that people have pointed out Rwanda has problems.

That £300 million (so far) is certainly buying something

Seen elsewhere

Aw I love Julia Goodyear. So so good as Bet

Her constituency (mine!) did hold 22 Tory councillors. But lost 5 - Lib Dem gained 4 and Labour 1.

In a Tory stronghold area governed by her does she honestly think going further right is the correct route when she's lost councillors in her constituency 🤦🏼‍♀️

I think the only people she listens too are the ones who call for her to join reform - who apparently aren't more right wing than Tories 🤔 but yet she wants more RW as thinks that's what people want.

I'd encourage to her to join reform - then at least she won't be my MP anymore 🤣

She is a cowpat.

She's an absolute steaming pile of shit.

Starmer is a peanut. People love or loathe him. He can produce a huge reaction in some people.

But ultimately he's really good for you!

I like peanuts.

It is like watching a group of sharks around a bleeding body; they seem ready to eat but not yet. Naked discussion of replacement, Johnson, Farage, Braverman, all discussing the need to be even righter wing basically.

Labour will need a thumping majority or they will be quite vulnerable to this end of the pier right winger stuff as a constant public narrative. Look at the attention they get, Johnson with his mag gambit, Braverman with her finger wagging style etc.

I don’t think so. You’d think the trans issue was a massive vote influencer if you relied on MN, in reality its effect is negligible. I think they’re very much the same.

Mark Harper is the dictionary definition of a stuffed shirt.

Bernard Hill has died. Goodnight Yosser ☹️