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Thread 43 Sunak - Seriously Scapegoating

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DuncinToffee · 01/05/2024 12:15

Buckle up for the local elections 🍿

Previous thread here
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5059786-thread-42-sunak-ping-pong-with-the-enemies-of-the-people?page=40

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tobee · 03/05/2024 23:54

Just taken this screenshot from Sky News app fwiw:-

tobee · 03/05/2024 23:55

Try again

Thread 43 Sunak - Seriously Scapegoating
tobee · 03/05/2024 23:56

Heavenssakes · 03/05/2024 20:54

Liz Truss?
She's one of the one's vying for top spot on my drinks list.
Hard to call: the area's v Blue, but, there's a local True Blue standing against her as an Independant, plus she wasn't wanted in that part of Norfolk when she was first parachuted in there by Con Party HQ, so who knows? Fingers crossed.

I'm thinking , for the GE night, may have to use shot glasses with a low alcohol wine, in order to avoid alcohol poisoning.

One fly in the ointment: the Cons have massively more money, and will spend it on all sorts of devious online campaigns.
I've hesitated to say this on these threads, for fear of sounding preachy, but hey, here goes.

I have long beeen of the opinion that we (largely) get the democracy we deserve.

Loathe the Governments we've had , but don't do anything about that? Except complain. Don't complain. Act.

If it's important to you, and right now it's nothing short of vital, then do something.

Donate. Money if you've got it. ( Cause the Con Party has mega Corporate donors)
Time, if you can spare only a few hours, phone banking, or delivering letters.

If you can find a party you can believe in, fantastic, If you can only find a party likely to defeat the Evil Ones, that will do.

It's not won yet.
And we all need that GE night SO bad.
(Sermon ends)

Yep

HannibalHeyes · 04/05/2024 00:12

The moment that Laura Kuenssberg realised she couldn’t spin this as a Tory victory...

Thread 43 Sunak - Seriously Scapegoating
Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2024 08:10

They lost Oldham. If they lose London they will have to reflect on the Gaza issue. I ,for one, am glad if this does force their hand - despite their difficulties with issues over anti Semitism. Otherwise, they are giving the message that they don't care- not just about the (large) Muslim vote , but also about the concerns of Muslim (and other) people on the events in Palestine. A Workers' Party candidate stood in our PCC election (Luton is in the area with its high Muslim population) and picked up quite a lot of votes. Labour ought to be worried about Luton constituencies in a general election. I think I read somewhere once that British Asians have a higher voting turnout than most other minority ethnic groups.

I am not a single issue voter but am troubled by some issues and Labour's stance . There just isn't another viable party for me so I'll stick with Labour to GTTO.

I know the PFW is a new, grassroots movement but I am afraid they became a bit of a laughing stock (excuse pun) and really did not appear to have any policy on local concerns at all, just instructions as to who could vote for them , and a vague mention of bin collection in the two videos I have seen and in their leaflets. And, hard to see via MN, but Labour will lose (again relatively small) numbers of votes in the other direction on their stance on gender. They know this and so that becomes - to the strategists- a minor balancing act in that they assume each viewpoint cancels the other out.

Separately -The news coverage is interesting. LDs and Greens did well - the focus has been on the Reform party.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2024 08:21

Edit : P Of W not For - important semantic difference.

IClaudine · 04/05/2024 08:32

I agree Piggy. Starmer needs to gather his courage and condemn what is going on in Gaza. Yes, the right wing press will probably accuse him of anti-semitism I expect, but he can and should ignore that.

cakeorwine · 04/05/2024 08:35

He just has such a massive ego - and I have no doubt this was a PR stunt

"Boris Johnson has thanked three villagers who turned him away from a polling station on Thursday for attempting to vote without a valid ID.
Writing for the Daily Mail, Johnson said he attempted to use a copy of Prospect magazine as a form of identification, but was turned away by local electorate officials.
Mr Johnson wrote:
I want to pay a particular tribute to the three villagers who on Thursday rightly turned me away when I appeared in the polling station with nothing to prove my identity except the sleeve of my copy of Prospect magazine, on which my name and address had been printed.

I showed it to them and they looked very dubious... within minutes I was back with my driving licence and voted Tory."

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2024 08:36

Well, how nice for him that he can 'return within' minutes with suitable ID.

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 08:41

"within minutes I was back with my driving licence and voted Tory."

Of course you did 😉😉

Spandauer · 04/05/2024 09:07

ODFOD

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IClaudine · 04/05/2024 09:08

Oh god. How pathetic.

fabio12 · 04/05/2024 09:13

HannibalHeyes · 04/05/2024 00:12

The moment that Laura Kuenssberg realised she couldn’t spin this as a Tory victory...

At least she's dressed as the snake she is.

BIossomtoes · 04/05/2024 09:14

HannibalHeyes · 04/05/2024 00:12

The moment that Laura Kuenssberg realised she couldn’t spin this as a Tory victory...

Her face is going to be a sight to behold on election night.

SerendipityJane · 04/05/2024 09:28

BIossomtoes · 04/05/2024 09:14

Her face is going to be a sight to behold on election night.

The internet remembers

E2A Unfortunate clipping of that image ...

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Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 09:37

🧵

🚨 BREAKING: women are being targeted for forced removal to Rwanda

Around 8 women have received ‘Notices of Intent’ (NOI) and have been detained at Yarl’s Wood.

They have already survived traumatic experiences and were trying to rebuild their lives in the UK.

x.com/4refugeewomen/status/1786672016243806694?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I don't know why I'm shocked but I am.

SerendipityJane · 04/05/2024 09:41

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 09:37

🧵

🚨 BREAKING: women are being targeted for forced removal to Rwanda

Around 8 women have received ‘Notices of Intent’ (NOI) and have been detained at Yarl’s Wood.

They have already survived traumatic experiences and were trying to rebuild their lives in the UK.

x.com/4refugeewomen/status/1786672016243806694?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I don't know why I'm shocked but I am.

Low hanging fruit, innit

https://www.reuters.com/world/africa/rwanda-denies-its-troops-attacked-displaced-persons-camp-dr-congo-2024-05-04/

BIossomtoes · 04/05/2024 09:49

Nothing they do shocks me any more. Yes, easy targets.

Piggywaspushed · 04/05/2024 10:15

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 09:37

🧵

🚨 BREAKING: women are being targeted for forced removal to Rwanda

Around 8 women have received ‘Notices of Intent’ (NOI) and have been detained at Yarl’s Wood.

They have already survived traumatic experiences and were trying to rebuild their lives in the UK.

x.com/4refugeewomen/status/1786672016243806694?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

I don't know why I'm shocked but I am.

That just makes me so furious.

user8800 · 04/05/2024 10:17

I'll be voting Labour.

But I'll be doing it with no enthusiasm, nor the feelings of hope and promise of change I felt in 1997.

My oldest dc can vote this time (1st time!) and feels the same.

If labour aren't offering young people the promise of change, then...what's the point, other than to get the tories out?

It's hardly inspiring.

I'm not sure even the plotters to remove sunak care that much anymore tbh.

I'll be watching the Ch 4 election coverage, so I won't have to look at LK!

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 10:22

Yarl’s Wood, an immigration removal centre holding both men and women near Bedford, is no longer safe enough according to a recent inspection by HM Inspectorate of Prisons.

www.justiceinspectorates.gov.uk/hmiprisons/media/press-releases/2023/10/yarls-wood-worrying-decline-in-safety-for-detainees-held-in-prison-like-conditions/

I guess if we don't care about safety in Rwanda we aren't going to care about safety here.

DuncinToffee · 04/05/2024 10:38

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyxxlzvk4o

So the same Rwandan government Rishi Sunak insists will provide a "safe" haven for refugees arriving in the UK, has now been blamed for the bombing of a refugee camp

An internally displaced person carries water to her shelter in the Shabindu camp on 9 April 2024

US blames Rwanda and rebels for deadly camp strike

At least nine people are killed in an attack on a camp in eastern DR Congo.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/crgyxxlzvk4o

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DuncinToffee · 04/05/2024 11:51

Ouch Grin

https://x.com/Haggis_UK/status/1786661728631058858

Mishal Husain: Are you going to change the plan?

Andrew Griffith: No, we're going to keep delivering the plan

Mishal Husain: The reason I ask, because it's a plan that's just lost you 448 councillors.

#r4today

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HannibalHeyes · 04/05/2024 12:39

Politics UK@PolitlcsUK
·
7m BREAKING: London Mayoral results in Greenwich and Lewisham

Khan 46.5%
Hall 26.2%

4.5% swing from Conservative to Labour

https://twitter.com/PolitlcsUK/status/1786720255269650911

Notonthestairs · 04/05/2024 12:41

🚨 BREAKING: Labour wins a landslide in the Liverpool Mayoral Election

🔴 LAB: 183,932
🔵 CON: 27,708
🟢 GRN: 26,417
🟠 LDEM: 21,366
⚪️ INDP: 11,032

x.com/politlcsuk/status/1786721602752614622?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg