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Niece spends every single weekend alone with granddad

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nb2023 · 25/04/2024 13:04

Hi,

There's something that's been on my mind for some time.

My sister has an 8 year old son with her ex husband and an almost 3 year old daughter with her partner.

My niece spends every single weekend alone with her paternal granddad without exception.

My sister's partner drops her off on a Friday and picks her up again on the Sunday.

They've had this arrangement since she was very small (maybe 1 year old).

Her granddad lives alone (he used to live with his mother (my niece's great grandmother) , but she passed away a year ago).

My mother said that he really enjoys spending time with his granddaughter and I feel awful for being concerned.

I've never mentioned my concerns to my family, as I feel doing so would be hugely offensive.

I have 3 children myself and wouldn't be happy with that arrangement.

I don't know this man, most likely it is completely normal, but would you agree that it is a safeguarding risk?

Maybe it's a case of me being distrustful and jaded and if you think that's the case, please tell me so xx

OP posts:
LauderSyme · 25/04/2024 15:57

MaMarysBigBowl · 25/04/2024 15:47

I agree it's fairly unusual for a man to put his hand up to look after a small child every weekend. However, you said his wife used to be there until a year ago so maybe that explains it more - he is used to having his little grandaughter around at the weekend, knows her routines etc.

I have to admit I agree with others that it's really sad your sister and partner don't spend any time with their daughter over the weekend. Unless they don't work and are spending all week with her, that's very little time spent together at all.

It was his mother, not his wife.

Sorry - not just directed at you - but the reading comprehension on this thread sucks.

AlltheFs · 25/04/2024 15:57

It’s neglectful- when exactly are they parenting this poor child?

It sounds like the parents are useless and the grandfather is providing the parenting.

I expect there is a safeguarding risk yes, against the parents. I came across something similar where the parents dumped their child with others at the weekends so they could have a drugs bender.

yesmen · 25/04/2024 15:59

DrJoanAllenby · 25/04/2024 13:25

That's taking man hating to a whole new level.
Grandad sound like a lovely man and would be devastated to learn that someone has such a sordid mind that they would seek to sully his relationship with his granddaughter.

You are not superior to the parents of the child who unless mentally deficient are happy with the relationship and time their child spends with their doting grandfather.

I hope they never find out your nasty thoughts.

Hells bells, hyperbole much

I would look twice at this. It is, as someone else said, very unusual for an older man to be so devoted.

Which does not automatically jump to sexual abuse but pause for thought yes!

OPs thoughts are not nasty. The same cannot be said for your post though.

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yesmen · 25/04/2024 16:02

Greywitch2 · 25/04/2024 13:33

I don't know this man, most likely it is completely normal, but would you agree that it is a safeguarding risk?

Don't be such a disgusting twat. No one normal would agree that a grandad spending time with his grandaughter was a 'risk'. Are you on glue?

Your sister on the other hand sounds like she can't be arsed to parent. I bet grandad is knackered!

No one normal would agree that a grandad spending time with his grandaughter was a 'risk'.

Agree with “spending time”.

Every weekend of every year since she was 2? Worth thinking about.

nb2023 · 25/04/2024 16:03

Just to clarify two things here. I have already stated these in my original post, but I'll write it again:

  • My sister has an ex husband that she shares an 8 year old boy with. Her almost 3 year old daughter is with her current partner
  • Her paternal grandfather used to live with HIS mother until a year ago, when she died. My niece's great grandmother. Not his wife.

Her grandfather actually spends more time with her than just weekends. Sometimes he picks her up from nursery during a weekday and drops her off in the evening at her parents house.

The father of my 8 year old nephew isn't involved. My nephew spends a lot of time with my mother, during the week and also on weekends.

I find it weird that my niece spends so much time with her granddad and so little time with her actual parents.

However, when I cautiously raised it, I just got the reply that it's normal to want to spend time as a grandparent with such a beautiful little girl and who wouldn't.

OP posts:
yesmen · 25/04/2024 16:04

Ladyj84 · 25/04/2024 13:36

Your so ridiculously ludicrous. I was a grandads little girl and I did similar and adored every minute and all that we did right up till being a late teen and getting my own pad. He moved in with us 2 years ago because he couldn't manage alone anymore and sadly passed last month and left the biggest hole ever. I have no walking buddy,chat buddy, best friend anymore

Your one wonderful experience (I am jealous 😉) sadly does not translate into the universe of all children’s experience.

AlltheFs · 25/04/2024 16:05

nb2023 · 25/04/2024 16:03

Just to clarify two things here. I have already stated these in my original post, but I'll write it again:

  • My sister has an ex husband that she shares an 8 year old boy with. Her almost 3 year old daughter is with her current partner
  • Her paternal grandfather used to live with HIS mother until a year ago, when she died. My niece's great grandmother. Not his wife.

Her grandfather actually spends more time with her than just weekends. Sometimes he picks her up from nursery during a weekday and drops her off in the evening at her parents house.

The father of my 8 year old nephew isn't involved. My nephew spends a lot of time with my mother, during the week and also on weekends.

I find it weird that my niece spends so much time with her granddad and so little time with her actual parents.

However, when I cautiously raised it, I just got the reply that it's normal to want to spend time as a grandparent with such a beautiful little girl and who wouldn't.

So what does your sister do all weekend then @nb2023?
Is she a junkie? In a toxic/abusive relationship? Or just a massive twat?

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 25/04/2024 16:08

Her grandfather actually spends more time with her than just weekends. Sometimes he picks her up from nursery during a weekday and drops her off in the evening at her parents house.

The father of my 8 year old nephew isn't involved. My nephew spends a lot of time with my mother, during the week and also on weekends.

It sounds like the GP - your Mum and new partners Dad are stepping in a lot* *so I wonder if there are grounds for concern with the parents that your Mother not willing to talk to you about.

nb2023 · 25/04/2024 16:12

AlltheFs · 25/04/2024 16:05

So what does your sister do all weekend then @nb2023?
Is she a junkie? In a toxic/abusive relationship? Or just a massive twat?

She doesn't take drugs or is in an abusive relationship.

Her partner is quite nice.

She uses the weekend to sleep, clean her apartment, go swimming or go somewhere with her partner. Sometimes they go to a hotel on the weekend, sort of as a weekend getaway.

OP posts:
yesmen · 25/04/2024 16:13

RhubarbAndGingerCheesecake · 25/04/2024 14:52

No idea - I don't think it's fair to wonder just because he male but having such a young child every weekend is not a usual pattern.

Honestly if 8 year old is with ex and 3 year is with her grandfather every weekend I don't think it says great things about their parenting.

Hopefully it's entirely innocent and 3 year old enjoys spending time with grandfather but I can't see how you can raise it without accusing and causing offense - but it being odd when parents aren't even working weekends I'd agree.

Why should we not worry “just because he is male”?

If 90%+ of sexual assault on children is committed by men (and yes NOT ALL MEN) then we must all be cautious with young children just because they are men.

it is not discrimination- it is safe guarding.

CustardySergeant · 25/04/2024 16:13

Deleted for stupidity.

yesmen · 25/04/2024 16:14

namechange78654 · 25/04/2024 14:53

I was sexually abused from a young age through to senior school by my grandfather.

Wish I had someone looking out for me in my childhood.

I am so so sorry.

WhatDoIDoPeople · 25/04/2024 16:16

AlltheFs · 25/04/2024 16:05

So what does your sister do all weekend then @nb2023?
Is she a junkie? In a toxic/abusive relationship? Or just a massive twat?

This is disappointing that we can’t conceive what a woman might be doing on a weekend other than childcare. At a guess, house/yard work, grocery shopping, meal planning & cooking, DIY, exercise, keeping up relationships with friends, study, hobbies - I can think of a lot of things that don’t involve drugs or alcoholism.

Its great that a male relative is stepping up to share the child rearing burden. More men could take this example.

And it’s typical of how we judge women that’s it’s terrible she’s getting help. Maybe judge less, help more if you’re worried about the grandfather taking on too much.

WhatDoIDoPeople · 25/04/2024 16:18

nb2023 · 25/04/2024 16:12

She doesn't take drugs or is in an abusive relationship.

Her partner is quite nice.

She uses the weekend to sleep, clean her apartment, go swimming or go somewhere with her partner. Sometimes they go to a hotel on the weekend, sort of as a weekend getaway.

Sounds fantastic. No need for women to be martyrs.

crumblingschools · 25/04/2024 16:19

How much parenting do your sister and partner do?

Needanewname42 · 25/04/2024 16:20

Op I'm with you. Something isn't sitting right with me either.

I can't decide if it's the mum & dad not wanting time with their own child.

Or if the Granddad wants to see the child, either to get away from the loneliness of living alone if he's always had his mother.

Or if he has another motive. And remember abusers don't all fit the trench coat stereotype.

I think I'd ask your sister her motivations first. Before working out his motivations

RedHelenB · 25/04/2024 16:22

He's her paternal grandad.yabu.

Coconutter24 · 25/04/2024 16:23

Silvers11 · 25/04/2024 15:46

The niece is the daughter of the sister and her current partner

The son is the child which the sister had with her EX so I presume he spends the weekends with his Dad?

Edited

Thanks it took me a while to figure that out but it literally says niece in the opening op lol

trampoline123 · 25/04/2024 16:23

I think it's weird from the point of view they cart her off every weekend, especially as they work all week. So, they spend no quality time with her which is very sad. So you must never see her either then if it's every weekend without fail?

My problem would be with the sister and partner, not the granddad.

AlltheFs · 25/04/2024 16:24

WhatDoIDoPeople · 25/04/2024 16:16

This is disappointing that we can’t conceive what a woman might be doing on a weekend other than childcare. At a guess, house/yard work, grocery shopping, meal planning & cooking, DIY, exercise, keeping up relationships with friends, study, hobbies - I can think of a lot of things that don’t involve drugs or alcoholism.

Its great that a male relative is stepping up to share the child rearing burden. More men could take this example.

And it’s typical of how we judge women that’s it’s terrible she’s getting help. Maybe judge less, help more if you’re worried about the grandfather taking on too much.

Right. So you think it’s ok to palm off your child to clean or shop or do other domestic servitude every weekend and never spend any time with your child? Seriously.

What a load of actual bollocks.

The sister is a fuck up and equally so is the partner.

Lalor · 25/04/2024 16:24

nb2023 · 25/04/2024 16:12

She doesn't take drugs or is in an abusive relationship.

Her partner is quite nice.

She uses the weekend to sleep, clean her apartment, go swimming or go somewhere with her partner. Sometimes they go to a hotel on the weekend, sort of as a weekend getaway.

But abandons her tiny child every single weekend? Thats the weirdest most worrying thing that you've posted, not her grandad

TheSnowyOwl · 25/04/2024 16:24

I don't know this man
Why would you when he’s not related to you? It’s no different to your own father. Or would you not trust him with your children either?

most likely it is completely normal
It is normal for grandparents to spend time with grandchildren and many have them overnight on a regular basis.

but would you agree that it is a safeguarding risk?
No.

crumblingschools · 25/04/2024 16:25

@WhatDoIDoPeople maybe the fathers of the children could step up

TTPD · 25/04/2024 16:29

LauderSyme · 25/04/2024 14:41

@TTPD I base my suspicions on my personal experiences of males who volunteered to spend time alone and unsupervised with young children, precisely in order to sexually abuse them.

There was nothing else publicly suggesting they might be predatory paedophiles other than their biological sex and their desire to be around children.

Edited

Sure - but does that mean that every male who enjoys spending time with his own biological children or grandchildren should be under heightened suspicion?

SomethingFun · 25/04/2024 16:29

Your sister and her partner sound like terrible parents. Never spending any free time with their dcs so they can go swimming and clean ffs. There is something totally off about the whole thing tbh.

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