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People using the wrong words for things - does it drive anyone else up the wall?

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LanisHouseLot · 12/04/2024 22:55

I was recently staying with relatives and one kept offering and making Welsh rarebit. Lovely! Except that it was just cheese on toast. I like cheese on toast too but it is definitely not Welsh rarebit. I had to bite my tongue from saying anything because despite feeling enraged i have no desire to make anyone feel stupid or corrected. But it was bubbling up inside nonetheless!

Today I saw a 'High Tea' event advertised. Little sandwiches and cakes, cups and saucers etc - clearly afternoon tea rather than high tea. Why does it bug me so much that I'm still thinking about it and wanting to tell the organiser, and all the women looking forward to their high tea, that they've made a terrible mistake and that high tea isn't what they think it is?! Does anyone else find it unbearable?

I am similar about apostrophe misuse and spelling mistakes (despite not seeing my own mistakes half the time Blush). These errors are even more infuriating because it is entirely the wrong thing being described.

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CelesteCunningham · 13/04/2024 12:33

Sleeping policeman is a common term in Ireland too. I'd say it's pretty widespread.

Saintmariesleuth · 13/04/2024 12:34

Thanks for the thread OP, I have learned something today.

I may not always get it right, but I am trying to improve my spelling and grammar. Perhaps I will lurk in pedant's corner.

I suspect the trend for describing everyday activities as an 'experience' may contribute to the misappropriation of words in an attempt to make things appear more 'exclusive'.

I also think that corporate jargon has a habit of mangling or spawning words and phrases. Increased internet use means that these now cross over in to mainstream usage much faster (space instead of area, for example).

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/04/2024 12:35

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:18

You're right @QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , toast doesn't need oil. I was joking pretending to be your 'friend'.
It wasn't meant to be a spelling lesson. I only pointed it out because it affects the pronunciation.

Sorry, tone gets lost online sometimes. Plus I got woken up very early and I'm grumpy. Grin

We used to call speed bumps sleeping policemen as children. Or maybe I just read it in a book, I can't remember now.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:36

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 12:20

Im not responsible for the difference in definition of high tea and afternoon tea I just know what it is

You could take it up with the dictionary I guess

Edited

Well the Ritz advertise it as high tea….

I suspect this is one of the north/ south things. A cooked tea is just called tea in the north.

DrJoanAllenby · 13/04/2024 12:37

'accidently' instead of accidentally.

DappledThings · 13/04/2024 12:39

We also called them sleeping policemen when I was young and I'm not from anywhere near Bristol.

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/04/2024 12:41

Also sleeping policemen for me. 58, Nottinghamshire.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:42

I suspect this is one of the north/ south things. A cooked tea is just called tea in the north.

This

DappledThings · 13/04/2024 12:44

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:36

Well the Ritz advertise it as high tea….

I suspect this is one of the north/ south things. A cooked tea is just called tea in the north.

No they don't. Not on their website anyway

People using the wrong words for things - does it drive anyone else up the wall?
PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:45

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow , where does The Ritz advertise High Tea? I can only find afternoon tea.

I'm from the North and 'Tea' was a sandwich and a cake after school.
Dinner was at lunchtime. My parents were self-employed and WFH.

Friends would have a cooked meal called 'Tea' after their father came home from work.

Afternoon tea would be a more formal version of sandwiches and a cake.

High tea would be usually a sit down meal - usually a ham or chicken salad eaten with a knife and fork, followed by cakes.

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 12:46

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:36

Well the Ritz advertise it as high tea….

I suspect this is one of the north/ south things. A cooked tea is just called tea in the north.

Where do they do that? This says Afternoon Tea

https://www.theritzlondon.com/dine-with-us/afternoon-tea/

Afternoon Tea Experience | Mayfair Luxury Experience | The Ritz London

Join us at The Ritz London for our world-renowned Afternoon Tea experience. Indulge in freshly baked scones and delectable pastries. Book a table today.

https://www.theritzlondon.com/dine-with-us/afternoon-tea/

Crushed23 · 13/04/2024 12:46

BoudiccaOfSuburbia · 13/04/2024 10:03

‘Staycation’ referring to an actual holiday in your own country, such as a hotel or cottage irritates me, and the media love it.

Trendy new portmanteau words, especially based on American usage like vacation irritate me anyway. Then the press use it inaccurately trying to sound hip and innovative.

’Wild camping’ means in the wild, off grid, not on a campsite. But the camping masses now ask for ‘wild camping’ recommendations meaning a campsite that doesn’t have electric hook up. OK, niche, I know, but language is constantly reappropriated by people who misunderstand it.

IPS. (Irritable Pedant Syndrome)

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I use staycation to mean a holiday in your own country, as does everyone I know.

Why is doing something in your home town or city likened to a ‘vacation’ in any way? Surely it’s just enjoying where you live. You’d have to call every weekend a staycation if you’re going to use it in that way!

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 12:47

Ha ha@PedantScorner I think this may be the third time we have posted the same thing at exactly the same time! Jinx!

ASighMadeOfStone · 13/04/2024 12:47

@TimeandMotion is correct about the Oxford comma incidentally.
The poster who said she was using one, wasn't. Both her examples just had "normal" comma usage.

StMarieforme · 13/04/2024 12:47

thedendrochronologist · 13/04/2024 09:10

Yes I agree and I too am A pedant.

rarebit has ale, eggs and mustard in among other optional things.

High tea is a full meal, cream tea is tea and cream scones, and afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches and savouries.

And yes, that is an Oxford comma.

You didn't use an Oxford comma? That's when you use it in a list, before the 'and', not just before 'and'.

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 12:48

Thank you, to both @StMarieforme and @ASighMadeOfStone 😀

RosesAndHellebores · 13/04/2024 12:48

We call speed bumps, "bloody bumps". They give me the hump.

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 12:49

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:36

Well the Ritz advertise it as high tea….

I suspect this is one of the north/ south things. A cooked tea is just called tea in the north.

I can't see it on their website, what do you get to eat if you order that?

Pantaloons99 · 13/04/2024 12:50

I make lazy mistakes but my grammar is generally pretty good.

When I see mistakes like misuse of their, there etc, I would never want to humiliate someone by bringing it to their attention. We all know what they mean. It's unnecessary and bitchy.

CelesteCunningham · 13/04/2024 12:53

Crushed23 · 13/04/2024 12:46

I use staycation to mean a holiday in your own country, as does everyone I know.

Why is doing something in your home town or city likened to a ‘vacation’ in any way? Surely it’s just enjoying where you live. You’d have to call every weekend a staycation if you’re going to use it in that way!

Edited

A staycation is staying at home but with no work or school, and doing day trips and meals out. A holiday without the travel or accommodation costs.

A holiday in your own country is called a holiday.

LyndaSnellsSniff · 13/04/2024 12:55

... really want some Welsh rarebit now.

I have a Glaswegian friend who uses 'carmel' rather than 'caramel' and refers to school dinners as 'dinner school'. Is the 'dinner school' thing a localisation? I'd never heard it before and I grew up in South West Scotland, so not too far from Glasgow.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:56

I did ' cold water swimming ' till my OH pointed out it was just 'swimming.' 😄

And then my friend pointed out we weren't doing that much swimming. So now I do 'dipping '.

DysmalRadius · 13/04/2024 12:56

Inconsistent use of the Oxford comma is more confusing than either using or not using it consistently.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:58

@TimeandMotion Grin. I wish these threads would stay in Pedants' corner. It's really annoying when non-pedants post nonsense.

@Pantaloons99 , it's not always unnecessary or bitchy.

Funkyslippers · 13/04/2024 12:58

soupfiend · 13/04/2024 12:10

I give you 'mac 'n' cheese'

I'll leave it there.

That winds me up. It was always macaroni cheese to me and I don't even like it!