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People using the wrong words for things - does it drive anyone else up the wall?

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LanisHouseLot · 12/04/2024 22:55

I was recently staying with relatives and one kept offering and making Welsh rarebit. Lovely! Except that it was just cheese on toast. I like cheese on toast too but it is definitely not Welsh rarebit. I had to bite my tongue from saying anything because despite feeling enraged i have no desire to make anyone feel stupid or corrected. But it was bubbling up inside nonetheless!

Today I saw a 'High Tea' event advertised. Little sandwiches and cakes, cups and saucers etc - clearly afternoon tea rather than high tea. Why does it bug me so much that I'm still thinking about it and wanting to tell the organiser, and all the women looking forward to their high tea, that they've made a terrible mistake and that high tea isn't what they think it is?! Does anyone else find it unbearable?

I am similar about apostrophe misuse and spelling mistakes (despite not seeing my own mistakes half the time Blush). These errors are even more infuriating because it is entirely the wrong thing being described.

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neverknowinglyunreasonable · 13/04/2024 11:10

I find it so annoying. I have ended friendships because people used the wrong word although I can't think of any pacific examples at the moment.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 11:12

pacific indeed

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 11:14

'Twas ever thus. Language changes, adapts, moves, appropriates, as society does.
Words are rarely fixed points.

You know what is correct. Others don't. But it's all moving.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 11:17

High tea was a thing we had when visiting family who lived a long drive away. It was something like a ham salad followed by cakes and tea. It would be served about 5 or 6 o'clock.

Not particularly relevant but I was listening to the radio this morning. A man being interviewed used the word literally four times. The word literally added nothing to what he was saying.

@splatmouse , you used it incorrectly. USA isn't an acronym.

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/04/2024 11:17

@LanisHouseLot that reminds me of the time I was out with some friends and for some unknown reason we were discussing what we'd eaten that day. I said that I'd had tomatoes on toast.

One woman said "you mean bruscetta?" I told her that no, it wasn't bruscetta, it was tomatoes on toast. She patronisingly (is that a word?) told me "that is bruscetta but I wouldn't expect someone like you to realise that".

RosesAndHellebores · 13/04/2024 11:21

I now fancy High Tea. My version of High tea is served between 5 and 6.30 and comprises:

Ham, cheese, pickles, salad, possibly some hard boiled eggs, pork pie, bread and butter and fruit cake.

I think I have avoided the Oxford comma but to be entirely honest I don't give a flying.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 11:23

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , patronisingly is definitely a word.
Did your friend say brusketta or brushetta? She sounds a right knob

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 11:24

@RosesAndHellebores And nowadays some people might refer to that as " picky bits " and include hommous instead of pork pie and probably swap fruitcake for a yogurt.

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/04/2024 11:25

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 11:23

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , patronisingly is definitely a word.
Did your friend say brusketta or brushetta? She sounds a right knob

I thought it was a word, but my phone didn't like it.

I can't actually remember how she said it, it was just the way she was so adamant I was wrong, and that I obviously didn't know what bruscetta was on account of not being as good as her.
She's more of an acquaintance than a friend tbh.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 11:29

High tea to me means sandwiches and cakes. Just like afternoon tea.

Never equated it with cooked food. Cooked food is for normal for tea round my neck of the woods. We have tea in the evening.

RemarkablyBrightCreature · 13/04/2024 11:30

Bluevelvetsofa · 13/04/2024 09:35

Considering that I don’t have anything positive to say about the organisation, I’m irritated by the use of Ofstead to describe Ofsted. It’s an abbreviation for Office for Standards in Education. Plus the idea that contracting that organisation would be the first step in resolving an issue with your child’s school.

I am a pedant too.

Do you mean “contacting” not “contracting?

Sorry! Finding the sentence confusing 😄

BeachBeerBbq · 13/04/2024 11:32

I am ESOL (well ETOL to be exact), and my English is not perfect (commas especially) but... Apostrophes.
"Fresh Snadwiche's", "Cake's" and so on. Whyyyyy?
And "of" instead of "have". That one is a killer. The thing is, these are a basic English not some advanced grammar or really hard to spell words.

So I am joining your hypocrite club.

Georgethecat1 · 13/04/2024 11:34

RosesAndHellebores · 13/04/2024 11:21

I now fancy High Tea. My version of High tea is served between 5 and 6.30 and comprises:

Ham, cheese, pickles, salad, possibly some hard boiled eggs, pork pie, bread and butter and fruit cake.

I think I have avoided the Oxford comma but to be entirely honest I don't give a flying.

This how I know I am not posh….i call this picky tea 🤣😂

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 11:34

thedendrochronologist · 13/04/2024 09:10

Yes I agree and I too am A pedant.

rarebit has ale, eggs and mustard in among other optional things.

High tea is a full meal, cream tea is tea and cream scones, and afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches and savouries.

And yes, that is an Oxford comma.

No it isn’t!

An Oxford comma would be “scones, sandwiches, and savouries”

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 11:37

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 10:50

@DietrichandDiMaggio , @thedendrochronologist 's use of commas is correct.
She could have written it as
'High tea is a full meal. Cream tea is tea and cream scones. Afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches and savouries.'
or
'High tea is a full meal; cream tea is tea and cream scones; afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches and savouries.'

An unnescessary Oxford comma is:
'High tea is a full meal, cream tea is tea and cream scones, and afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches, and savouries.'

Edited

I consider “an unnecessary Oxford comma” to be a tautology 😂.

splatmouse · 13/04/2024 11:38

At a certain point you just have to let people be wrong. No point tearing your own hair out over it. Some people are very confidently wrong about things. No point wasting too much of your energy on them.

MolkosTeenageAngst · 13/04/2024 11:38

splatmouse · 13/04/2024 11:08

If you want to use it this way. Unfortunately these errors become more and more acceptable the more people incorrectly use them.

Abbreviation is the umbrella term for a shortened phrase of a written word or phrase. Initialisms and acronyms are types of abbreviations. Not all abbreviations are acronyms but all acronyms are abbreviations!

mewkins · 13/04/2024 11:38

Georgethecat1 · 13/04/2024 11:34

This how I know I am not posh….i call this picky tea 🤣😂

To me that's a ploughman's with a bit of cake.

High tea is often used to make it sound fancy, but didn't it just mean that it was eaten on high chairs and sat at the table? It's a working class tradition and term if anything.

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 11:39

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 11:29

High tea to me means sandwiches and cakes. Just like afternoon tea.

Never equated it with cooked food. Cooked food is for normal for tea round my neck of the woods. We have tea in the evening.

It might mean that to you but it's not what it actually means which is when it gets confusing.

RosesAndHellebores · 13/04/2024 11:47

High tea is certainly not posh. It could also include quiche, coleslaw, boiled potatoes, pasta/bean salady bits, etc.

I think the difference between high tea and a picky tea is that a picky tea doesn't need knives and forks. For example, crudités, dips, crisps, chicken drumsticks, cut up quiche/pizza/pork pie, mini sausages, cherry tomatoes, strawberries, grapes, etc.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 11:47

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , bruschetta is just fancy toast. I'd expect something like a grilled baguette with olive oil and garlic on it.

@ArseInTheCoOpWindow , I wouldn't expect high tea to be hot food.
Tea can be afternoon tea or a cooked meal after work.

@BeachBeerBbq , it's because you had to learn English (as did I). Acquaintances who have acquired English by immersion did not learn it in the same way.

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/04/2024 11:51

@PedantScorner I know what bruscetta is. I also know that it isn't sliced hovis that's been grilled with slices of tomato on.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 11:52

@TimeandMotion , I consider “an unnecessary Oxford comma” to be a tautology 😂.
@RosesAndHellebores' "Ham, cheese, pickles, salad, possibly some hard boiled eggs, pork pie, bread and butter and fruit cake."
would be improved by using an Oxford comma. The bread and butter is one item.

Midlifecryses · 13/04/2024 11:56

@TimeandMotion

Yes it is!

You were looking in the wrong place 🤔

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:00

It might mean that to you but it's not what it actually means which is when it gets confusing.

Which is why we have the word 'diversity'.