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People using the wrong words for things - does it drive anyone else up the wall?

191 replies

LanisHouseLot · 12/04/2024 22:55

I was recently staying with relatives and one kept offering and making Welsh rarebit. Lovely! Except that it was just cheese on toast. I like cheese on toast too but it is definitely not Welsh rarebit. I had to bite my tongue from saying anything because despite feeling enraged i have no desire to make anyone feel stupid or corrected. But it was bubbling up inside nonetheless!

Today I saw a 'High Tea' event advertised. Little sandwiches and cakes, cups and saucers etc - clearly afternoon tea rather than high tea. Why does it bug me so much that I'm still thinking about it and wanting to tell the organiser, and all the women looking forward to their high tea, that they've made a terrible mistake and that high tea isn't what they think it is?! Does anyone else find it unbearable?

I am similar about apostrophe misuse and spelling mistakes (despite not seeing my own mistakes half the time Blush). These errors are even more infuriating because it is entirely the wrong thing being described.

OP posts:
PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:02

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , you omitted the extra-virgin olive oil? Good grief! Shock (It's bruschetta not bruscetta BTW)

Andante57 · 13/04/2024 12:04

‘Disinterested’ rather than uninterested.

QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse · 13/04/2024 12:05

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:02

@QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , you omitted the extra-virgin olive oil? Good grief! Shock (It's bruschetta not bruscetta BTW)

Doesn't need oil! Thanks for the spelling lesson. Despite knowing what it is, I don't write it very often!

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:06

I was brought up thinking " high tea " was tea, sandwiches and cake plus extras. Maybe something on toast etc It would be substantial enough to be considered a bit of a meal. .

It would never have been an actual cooked meal as referred to here.

Sealtheenvelope · 13/04/2024 12:07

thedendrochronologist · 13/04/2024 09:10

Yes I agree and I too am A pedant.

rarebit has ale, eggs and mustard in among other optional things.

High tea is a full meal, cream tea is tea and cream scones, and afternoon tea is cakes, scones, sandwiches and savouries.

And yes, that is an Oxford comma.

Ooo, see, my grandparents and mother were all Welsh and there were no eggs in our Welsh rarebit. I sense a whole other thread coming Grin

talkingteapots · 13/04/2024 12:08

I have a similar irritant!

Influencers on instagram videos "Hi guys, UMMMM and then I UMMMM, UMMM SO"

I wish people would practice saying nothing at all rather than this filler word.

soupfiend · 13/04/2024 12:10

I give you 'mac 'n' cheese'

I'll leave it there.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:10

@splatmouse , an acronym is an abbreviation that you say as a word. USA isn't an acronym because it is usually said as 'U. S. A.', not 'usa'.

Radar, Nato, Scuba are abbreviations of "Radio Detection and Ranging", "North Atlantic Treaty Organization" and "Self Contained Underwater Breathing Apparatus" and are acronyms.

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:15

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 11:39

It might mean that to you but it's not what it actually means which is when it gets confusing.

Why? Why are you right? Your version is incorrect to me, and plenty of other people on this thread.

High tea is cakes and sandwiches, salad, and maybe sausage rolls or pork pie. It’s a mainly cold meal.

SkaneTos · 13/04/2024 12:15

I did not know what Welsh rarebit was, and I did not know the difference betwwen Afternoon Tea and High Tea.
Now I do! Thank you, OP.

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 12:17

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:00

It might mean that to you but it's not what it actually means which is when it gets confusing.

Which is why we have the word 'diversity'.

Diversity doesn't mean making up your own definitions of words, although I wonder if you are actually very cleverly making the point by using that word incorrectly

If so, well played

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:18

You're right @QueenOfTheEntireFuckingUniverse , toast doesn't need oil. I was joking pretending to be your 'friend'.
It wasn't meant to be a spelling lesson. I only pointed it out because it affects the pronunciation.

shoppingshamed · 13/04/2024 12:20

ArseInTheCoOpWindow · 13/04/2024 12:15

Why? Why are you right? Your version is incorrect to me, and plenty of other people on this thread.

High tea is cakes and sandwiches, salad, and maybe sausage rolls or pork pie. It’s a mainly cold meal.

Im not responsible for the difference in definition of high tea and afternoon tea I just know what it is

You could take it up with the dictionary I guess

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 12:21

Midlifecryses · 13/04/2024 11:56

@TimeandMotion

Yes it is!

You were looking in the wrong place 🤔

No, I really wasn’t.

Causewerethespecialtwo · 13/04/2024 12:22

I constantly hear people saying “generally” when they mean “genuinely” and it gives me the rage!

For example “I’m generally upset”.

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:24

There isn't any egg in a Welsh rarebit. You can put a poached egg on top to make a buck rarebit.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:25

*Diversity doesn't mean making up your own definitions of words, although I wonder if you are actually very cleverly making the point by using that word incorrectly

If so, well played*

Tbh it's not that deep.

It's what I know and what I have been brought up knowing.

There is a diversity of meaning and tradition around many things particularly food.

Hence the jam and cream debate of which goes first.

TigerRag · 13/04/2024 12:25

Friends in Bristol refer to speed bumps as sleeping policeman. Never heard them called that before! Was a tad confused when a friend called them that.

Bluevelvetsofa · 13/04/2024 12:27

I see there is some discussion as to whether Welsh rarebit should contain eggs or not. I didn’t know there was the possibility of eggs in it.

Toasted sliced bread, Hovis or otherwise, with cooked tomatoes on top, would have been tomatoes on toast in my childhood.

sunglassesonthetable · 13/04/2024 12:28

Im not responsible for the difference in definition of high tea and afternoon tea I just know what it i

Good on you.

It might change over time. And it probably already has from the original definition. But stick with it.

Bluevelvetsofa · 13/04/2024 12:29

@splatmouse , whatever Ofsted is, it isn’t Ofstead, which was the point.

CelesteCunningham · 13/04/2024 12:31

Causewerethespecialtwo · 13/04/2024 12:22

I constantly hear people saying “generally” when they mean “genuinely” and it gives me the rage!

For example “I’m generally upset”.

A lot of MNers ARE generally upset. Grin

PedantScorner · 13/04/2024 12:32

@TigerRag , that's what we used to call them and I'm not from Bristol.

TimeandMotion · 13/04/2024 12:32

TigerRag · 13/04/2024 12:25

Friends in Bristol refer to speed bumps as sleeping policeman. Never heard them called that before! Was a tad confused when a friend called them that.

That’s not localised, my parents called them that in Scotland in the 1980s.

thefamous5 · 13/04/2024 12:32

TigerRag · 13/04/2024 12:25

Friends in Bristol refer to speed bumps as sleeping policeman. Never heard them called that before! Was a tad confused when a friend called them that.

I'm from Birmingham and we call speed bumps sleeping policemen.