What incels reckon makes a good woman:

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This is the list posted by a bunch of morons who should not be allowed the internet:

Loses weight after pregnancy
Low body count/dresses modestly
Dress size 12 or lower / no FUPA
Waist to hip ratio 0.7
No trauma
Balanced PH levels/bubblegum pink
Reasonably sized forehead/areolas
Can cook and clean
No single mums
No stretch marks
Open to labiaplasty
Has low iron levels
Can spell coconut with her waist
Not a feminist
Not moody during her period
Doesnt believe in starsigns
Doesnt nag

At first I laughed SO HARD - wtf does low iron levels even mean? But then honestly I started to feel sad and angry that this bullshit incel culture and porn is shaping young mens approaches to what women should be.

Its SO gross.

I saw a meme a while ago saying to get yourself a girlfriend with low iron levels because they're always at home napping so you know they're not cheating! 🙄

Is crossing the T not a bit dangerous? That's how erections get fractured.

I can't believe someone on here has said not to go on about winkie size as men have no control over it, but clearly not looked at the list of incel demands as to the colour of women's labia, size of foreheads etc.

If they can't take it, then they shouldn't dish it out.

OK, for everyone struggling to cross the t, I have consulted with my eldest DD (22) who says it is an uppercase T rather than t and you just stay within the lines. So there you go, every day is a school day. And no, she assures me she hasn't done it! 😂

Comedycook · Today 14:57

The thing is when you're in your late teens/early twenties, loads of people, both men and women, struggle to find the confidence to date or struggle to find a partner. This is totally normal. The answer to this is to work on yourself, increase your confidence and socialise with a variety of different people.

Yes, or they could get a skateboard and some fresh air, a new skill. Write terrible poetry, learn the guitar etc, but no, they want the government to issue them with a real, live woman. These voluntary virgins have no bloody idea.

I almost don't want to ask, but what does the coconut thing mean?

And what on earth does balanced PH levels/bubblegum pink mean? I get that balanced PH is healthy for you, but how on earth do they propose to find this out and what effect do they think it has on them? I know you've explained that the bubblegum thing refers to labia colour but I still don't follow. Does it mean shaved? Because that's kinda surprising given the emphasis on not being sexual.

IKWYM but we really don't need to sink to that same level, let them show themselves for what they are.

I'd fail on the forehead thing alone, never mind the rest ...

Many women can't help they're not 'bubblegum pink' colour...

Exactly. It’s not like anyone is queuing up to spell coconut for them or whatever. Who are these lists for? 😂

This is not funny. It's really sad that rather than celebrate women this is what these men do instead. And they blame us for it.

What saddos.

Oh that really gave me chills. That is surely the way it's going. They already list 'open to labioplasty' ....

If you read my original post I stated it was very much tongue in cheek 🙄

Joke's on them, the reason I have low iron levels is very heavy periods 😂

I fail on most of these...what a shame 🤨

Well, that’s a bag of cocks if ever I saw one

Not sure if this has been covered on the thread but I remember becoming really morbidly fascinated and looking into the whole incel/manosphere space, after a very sad real life event ended my partner's long term friendship with a man who I had become good friends with too.

One thing I can't get over is how they refer to women as "roasties" because they genuinely believe that a woman's labia size is determined by her level of sexual activity rather than genetics. (Roastie nauseatingly comes from their comparison of the labia minor to roast beef).

They want and need so much from women yet know literally nothing about actual women, mentally or physically. It's absolutely bizarre.

I can't help thinking that there must be easier words than coconut, why that one especially?

What sort of half wits, who's experience has been that no woman of any kind has ever wanted them in their entire lives, could possibly imagine their plight would be improved by compiling a list of traits that women who are going to continue to ignore them should have?

It gives them an excuse for being single - 'I couldn't find anybody who measured up'.

Incel means "involuntarily celibate" ie no woman wants to shag them.

They don't live in the real world. These are lonely young men with no social skills who inhabit online echo chambers which perpetuate absolute bullshit about sexual relations.

In real life most young people manage to acquire enough basic social ability through meeting others at school, uni etc to meet a partner they love and respect, as they always have.

Incel beliefs are worrying but don't think all young men are like that.

As if anyone cares about their irrelevant criteria!

They can’t find a woman who wants to shag them? How very strange.

Maybe the allure is in the difficulty.

Honestly don't know where my mind's gone this afternoon (!)