Thread 40: Sunak -failure to plan, or planning to fail?

[DuncinToffee]

Or will the fuckitty fuckwits please fuck off

previous thread
https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5025316-thread-39-sunak-government-by-gaslight?page=40&reply=133987967

credits notonthestairs and dontcallmelen

As others who read the same rag may have seen the 1824 Vagrancy Act that begging and sleeping rough in England and Wales illegal was repealled in 2022. Which is presumably why Sunak is so keen to introduce a bill to make sleeping rough illegal.

When 12 of your Cabinet Ministers have misgivings, maybe you should reflect?

Rishi Sunak faces huge Cabinet revolt if he opts to leave ECHR | Politics | News | Express.co.uk

Rishi Sunak is set to face a major Cabinet revolt if he opts to quit the European Convention on Human Rights.
At least 12 senior ministers are opposed to walking away from the international human rights treaty, The Times reports.
They are understood to include Chancellor Jeremy Hunt, Home Secretary James Cleverly and Justice Secretary Alex Chalk.
Cabinet ministers open to leaving include Business and Trade Secretary Kemi Badenoch and Levelling Up Secretray Michael Gove but they are outnumbered by two to one by those against cutting ties.

Gove and Badenoch again.

Both Gove and Badenoch would do anything to further their ambitions and I am glad people link them. They are both cut from the same cloth, she's his protégé and the same sanctimonious cant except he is a lot more personable and charming than she is.

"Open to it" ?

Do we think either Gove or Badenoch can be arsed to consider our obligations under the GFA or are all of our agreements worthless these days?

How very honourable.

I was hearing recently that Sunak really doesn't rate Badenoch and thinks she's pretty useless. She's only there as a sop to the right. I doubt that he really wants a cabinet where everyone with a bit of brainpower has resigned and he's left with incompetents like her.

I wonder if Cameron is amongst the potential resigners if we left the ECHR? That would be seriously embarrassing for Sunak.

What are their ambitions though?

I mean presumably she wants to be PM and he seems himself as Queenmaker, but then what? They always seem to have these mad visions of how they want UK to be but they never seem to have any connection with reality. I mean Brexit being the prime example.

I doubt that he really wants a cabinet where everyone with a bit of brainpower has resigned and he's left with incompetents like her.

Um, that ship sailed a long time ago, it's how we ended up with Sunak in the first place! Anyone with any integrity and intelligence left when Johnson was in charge. This lot are so bs it's farcical.

Echoes of this:

https://x.com/faisalislam/status/1748318208770117834

TRiP new episode is about some in depth polling they have done, well worth a listen as my impression of what they said was that the Tories know they are toast and are on damage limitation so priority is trying to win votes that could go to Reform. So more right wing.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-68638336

As a parent with a child with SEND, the lack of support is already alarming. This "reform" call from the government is chilling. Not making headlines though

That makes sense.

Out Reform Reform?
So zero taxes, zero waiting lists and zero refugees.
Unsubstantiated one line policies. Costs based on back of a fag packet calculations. Every previous Conservative government was socialist etc.
And the Telegraph, Times, Mail & Express get out the party poppers and print every nonsense word.

So a lot like now, but with even more Tufton Street sprinkles and even more hedge funder donors.

78 week wait in parts of my county (Herts). It has the lowest possible rating.

Rishi Sunak spent £2m of taxpayers' money on focus groups & polling which helped craft messaging on 'eat out to help out' ahead of second Covid wave - despite keeping health chiefs in the dark on £850m scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/business/2024/apr/11/rishi-sunak-spent-millions-focus-groups-eat-out-to-help-out-scheme

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2024/apr/11/michelle-donelan-used-34000-of-taxpayer-funds-to-cover-libel-costs?CMP=share_btn_url

And we paid twice as much as we were told for Donelan’s libel case.

Make it stop

https://x.com/AdamBienkov/status/1778385334641770807

Just a Conservative MP actively encouraging voters to back a candidate from a rival political party

"The letter showed that in addition to the costs incurred by the government’s legal department of £7,785 for internal legal advice, Donelan sought external private legal counsel which cost a further £11,600."

Erm, what now?

And
UKRI, which is an arm’s-length body funded by the taxpayer, disclosed last month in a freedom of information response that it spent £15,000 including VAT on the investigation and more than £8,200 on legal advice.
It means that overall, UKRI and the UK government have spent more than £61,460 as a result of Donelan’s remarks.
But remember Donelan didn't claim her redundancy payment from the job she was in for a few days.

So you know, overall, we probably owe her. 🙄

Sorry - there should be quote marks after Donelan's remarks" !

Is it normal to get a redundancy payment for a job that you quit?

Of course
Doesn't everyone get a £16k resignation bonus?
Wonder how much she would have been offered if she'd worked 3 days rather 2.

She works?

Honestly, if she'd come out and said sixteen grand for me to fuck off, I suspect many of us would've thought it worth the cash. She's awful.

yy please make it stop, otherwise these grifters will have totally bankrupted the country, the feckers should be made to pay it back I wish we still had debtors prisons we could throw the majority of these no good wastrels in & forget about them.

There's real worry in the SEND world about the so-called safety valve agreements. They are tied to a lot of strings around the local authority concerned saving money, and the reality is that the councils concerned are doing so by refusing EHCPs which are obviously desperately needed and refusing to put children in specialist schools when, again, it's obvious that heir needs can't possibly be met in the mainstream. Naturally, neither the government nor the Department for Education are at all bothered that this means they are blatantly telling councils to break the law.