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Thread 40: Sunak -failure to plan, or planning to fail?

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DuncinToffee · 23/03/2024 19:15

Or will the fuckitty fuckwits please fuck off

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https://www.mumsnet.com/talk/_chat/5025316-thread-39-sunak-government-by-gaslight?page=40&reply=133987967

credits notonthestairs and dontcallmelen Wine

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bombastix · 10/04/2024 08:48

IClaudine · 10/04/2024 07:59

Sunak on LBC, taking calls. Only listened to a little as can't put myself through it. He is putting on a sort of accent, I am sure, so that he doesn't sound too posh.

Ferrari just pulled him up on some small boat figures and Sunak started to sound a bit shrill, like a sixth former caught out in debating society.

He always looks to me as if he looks like he just left Winchester. The fact you say he sounds like a stuttering six former confirms he is just someone after the PM badge. He has never been tested, can't handle questions and dislikes the need to answer them in this role. Always strikes me as basically contemptuous of journalists and would like it more if he could just have all the trimmings and none of the accountability.

Piggywaspushed · 10/04/2024 08:49

IClaudine · 10/04/2024 07:59

Sunak on LBC, taking calls. Only listened to a little as can't put myself through it. He is putting on a sort of accent, I am sure, so that he doesn't sound too posh.

Ferrari just pulled him up on some small boat figures and Sunak started to sound a bit shrill, like a sixth former caught out in debating society.

I noticed the accent thing the other week. It was when he was on Radio Tees iirc so he was obviously trying to sound less southern. It was a bit Tony Blair and very obvious.

Zyq · 10/04/2024 08:54

IClaudine · 10/04/2024 07:59

Sunak on LBC, taking calls. Only listened to a little as can't put myself through it. He is putting on a sort of accent, I am sure, so that he doesn't sound too posh.

Ferrari just pulled him up on some small boat figures and Sunak started to sound a bit shrill, like a sixth former caught out in debating society.

He's following in Johnson's footsteps in cherry-picking the easiest interviewers, isn't he? When did he last turn up for a serious interview on the Today programme?

Though it's interesting that he's struggling even with died-in-the-wool right-wingers like Ferrari.

Alfreddoeblin · 10/04/2024 09:02

The other night I was listening to LBC and another right wing orientated broadcaster, possibly Ian Payne, was extremely critical of the Tories and Sunak, essentially promising that he wouldn’t vote for them. He actually had texts from listeners claiming he was a labour stooge much to his amusement. I did wonder at the time if Ferrari would start changing his tune…

AdamRyan · 10/04/2024 09:35

Not sure if anyone on here is following the new "Party for Women", that are going to take on Labour over their stance on trans politics.

But this is the parties nominating officer:
https://twitter.com/paulduddridge?lang=en

🤮

What is going on? Why is Trump trying to infect the UK?

https://twitter.com/paulduddridge?lang=en

AdamRyan · 10/04/2024 09:36

I mean its all good though, another parry to split the Conservative/Reform vote 😎

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 09:56

IClaudine · 10/04/2024 07:59

Sunak on LBC, taking calls. Only listened to a little as can't put myself through it. He is putting on a sort of accent, I am sure, so that he doesn't sound too posh.

Ferrari just pulled him up on some small boat figures and Sunak started to sound a bit shrill, like a sixth former caught out in debating society.

Ian Dunt on Sky Kay Burley

"He looks like he's putting on the act of being a human being"

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AdamRyan · 10/04/2024 10:55

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 09:56

Ian Dunt on Sky Kay Burley

"He looks like he's putting on the act of being a human being"

😂
Its the AI again!

RafaistheKingofClay · 10/04/2024 10:59

Ferrari started changing his tune a few weeks ago. About the time he kicked out the poor minister who was just lying to him. Can’t remember who that was.

fabio12 · 10/04/2024 11:10

AdamRyan · 10/04/2024 10:55

😂
Its the AI again!

Honestly starting to understand the concept of Lizard People for the first time this year!

Anyone else see that the EU is banning these lovely pesticides that our farmers partly voted Brexit to continue using? I hope someone has told them they will literally be killing our agri export future (and their home market) if they continue to use them https://news.sky.com/story/forever-chemicals-found-in-more-than-half-of-food-and-drink-samples-testing-shows-13111032

'Forever chemicals' found in more than half of food and drink samples, testing shows

Strawberries were found to be the worst when it came to presenting residues of PFAs, long-lasting toxins which have been linked to serious health issues.

https://news.sky.com/story/forever-chemicals-found-in-more-than-half-of-food-and-drink-samples-testing-shows-13111032

TooBigForMyBoots · 10/04/2024 11:34

Notonthestairs · 08/04/2024 23:23

"Times reports Rwanda has now sold to private residents 70% of the 163 homes in new housing project funded by UK government as part of UK-Rwanda migration partnership. Braverman visited a year ago, tweeting the project was one "people seeking refugee would come to call home""

x.com/sundersays/status/1777453865656258938?s=46&t=Uw4lJNwxFZFnX0Xs3doHYg

So the Government have built homes, just not here.

Rwanda are doing well out of this, good for them.Grin

I can't wait to find out how much Braverman has pocketed in the future inquiry.Hmm

dontcallmelen · 10/04/2024 12:00

Sunak reminds me of the puppets from Thunderbirds, sort of human but not quite.

the80sweregreat · 10/04/2024 12:02

I remember hearing a conservative spokesperson late last year on tv saying that sending money to Rwanda was ' a good idea '
Can't recall who he was now.

JessS1990 · 10/04/2024 12:57

the80sweregreat · 10/04/2024 12:02

I remember hearing a conservative spokesperson late last year on tv saying that sending money to Rwanda was ' a good idea '
Can't recall who he was now.

Overseas aid is very often a good idea, especially if it is actually spent overseas.

itsgettingweird · 10/04/2024 13:13

Notonthestairs · 08/04/2024 22:44

I think future generations will look back and ask why we were so relaxed about politicians & smart phones. It so clearly impacts on their focus & productivity & relationships.

Time to restrict them to basic Nokias.

Agree.

These twats are meant to be in charge if the online safety bill.

How the feck can they keep people safe online when they can't even make themselves safe, keep a phone or recover (apparent) deleted whats apps.

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 13:27

AdamRyan · 10/04/2024 09:35

Not sure if anyone on here is following the new "Party for Women", that are going to take on Labour over their stance on trans politics.

But this is the parties nominating officer:
https://twitter.com/paulduddridge?lang=en

🤮

What is going on? Why is Trump trying to infect the UK?

So have I got this right, the Party for Women and their male nominating officer are supporting Trump?

Have they seen what is happening in Arizona?

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RafaistheKingofClay · 10/04/2024 13:34

I think the fact that this lot are responsible for the online safety bill explains a lot about why it’s an unworkable piece of rubbish.

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DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 14:29

Talking about international aid, Lizzie Dearden

28% of the UK's entire international aid budget is now spent on asylum seekers and refugees inside Britain, a watchdog has revealed

The Independent Commission for Aid Impact (ICAI) said £4.3bn was spent in 2023, up on £3.7bn in 2022, and it had "value for money concerns"

2/3 of that £4.3bn was spent by the Home Office, of which £2.5bn

It's because costs of supporting asylum seekers in the UK qualify as official development assistance (ODA) for the first year after arrival. The rules allow it to be qualified as a form of humanitarian aid spend

It means the money can't be spent where it should be - abroad - and the ICAI said Home Office spending has "wrought havoc on the UK’s development work overseas", adding:

"Serious questions remain over value for taxpayers’ money and alignment with UK’s development objectives"

The watchdog said spending was being driven up by Home Office asylum accommodation policy and delays

Issues implementing the Illegal Migration Act mean "significant and rising number of people are stuck in limbo at considerable human and financial cost"

The ICAI warns that although there has been some progress in moving away from asylum accommodation in hotels, there are "no signs yet that the Home Office has found a route out of short-term crisis management towards longer-term solutions for housing asylum seekers"

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1778048479253643631

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunak-small-boats-plan-stalled-cleverley-2983385

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JessS1990 · 10/04/2024 14:36

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 14:29

Talking about international aid, Lizzie Dearden

28% of the UK's entire international aid budget is now spent on asylum seekers and refugees inside Britain, a watchdog has revealed

The Independent Commission for Aid Impact (ICAI) said £4.3bn was spent in 2023, up on £3.7bn in 2022, and it had "value for money concerns"

2/3 of that £4.3bn was spent by the Home Office, of which £2.5bn

It's because costs of supporting asylum seekers in the UK qualify as official development assistance (ODA) for the first year after arrival. The rules allow it to be qualified as a form of humanitarian aid spend

It means the money can't be spent where it should be - abroad - and the ICAI said Home Office spending has "wrought havoc on the UK’s development work overseas", adding:

"Serious questions remain over value for taxpayers’ money and alignment with UK’s development objectives"

The watchdog said spending was being driven up by Home Office asylum accommodation policy and delays

Issues implementing the Illegal Migration Act mean "significant and rising number of people are stuck in limbo at considerable human and financial cost"

The ICAI warns that although there has been some progress in moving away from asylum accommodation in hotels, there are "no signs yet that the Home Office has found a route out of short-term crisis management towards longer-term solutions for housing asylum seekers"

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1778048479253643631

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunak-small-boats-plan-stalled-cleverley-2983385

Its also I think important to note that most of that which is spent in the UK is not spent on asylum seekers, but rather given to rich donors to the Tory party who own hotels.

fabio12 · 10/04/2024 14:41

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 14:29

Talking about international aid, Lizzie Dearden

28% of the UK's entire international aid budget is now spent on asylum seekers and refugees inside Britain, a watchdog has revealed

The Independent Commission for Aid Impact (ICAI) said £4.3bn was spent in 2023, up on £3.7bn in 2022, and it had "value for money concerns"

2/3 of that £4.3bn was spent by the Home Office, of which £2.5bn

It's because costs of supporting asylum seekers in the UK qualify as official development assistance (ODA) for the first year after arrival. The rules allow it to be qualified as a form of humanitarian aid spend

It means the money can't be spent where it should be - abroad - and the ICAI said Home Office spending has "wrought havoc on the UK’s development work overseas", adding:

"Serious questions remain over value for taxpayers’ money and alignment with UK’s development objectives"

The watchdog said spending was being driven up by Home Office asylum accommodation policy and delays

Issues implementing the Illegal Migration Act mean "significant and rising number of people are stuck in limbo at considerable human and financial cost"

The ICAI warns that although there has been some progress in moving away from asylum accommodation in hotels, there are "no signs yet that the Home Office has found a route out of short-term crisis management towards longer-term solutions for housing asylum seekers"

https://x.com/lizziedearden/status/1778048479253643631

https://inews.co.uk/news/politics/sunak-small-boats-plan-stalled-cleverley-2983385

We've taken on the American style prison system for migrants and refugees now - it is in the interest of a few to keep them in the system and profit from their housing and food needs. Maybe the real reason the number of 'boats' hasn't gone down and has instead increased?

The ECHR case is great as hopefully paves the way for people in UK to decry the state of our beaches and rivers since leaving EU. I am too wary to use our paddle board in our rivers (some of the worst for e-coli in the country - only 1 river in UK isn't full of e-coli this year!) and certainly would't take DC for a swim here - we are lucky enough to go to Europe for holidays where they still regulate.

KitKatChunki · 10/04/2024 16:53

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tobee · 10/04/2024 17:32

KitKatChunki · 10/04/2024 16:53

😆

Funny but 🤮

DuncinToffee · 10/04/2024 17:34

Private Eye

“Rayner put two sachets of sugar(approximate value 0.0003p) in her pocket after having a coffee in Starbucks.”

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L1ttledrummergirl · 10/04/2024 18:25

@DuncinToffee that's a stroke of brilliance.

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