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Likely consequences of this benefit fraud

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beefmassaman · 10/03/2024 16:35

I'm looking for some advice regarding this situation and if anyone knows what the likely outcome will be for my family member.

I have a family member who I saw yesterday who confided in me about their situation and seems to be in a bit of a mess emotionally over the whole thing. She's very anxious about what will happen to her. I'm going to refer to her as Marie.

Marie is divorced and has three children in full time education from that marriage. A few years after the marriage ended she met someone else and unexpectedly fell pregnant. The father (I'll refer to him as John) wanted her to keep the baby as he'd never had the opportunity before and at 43 felt it was his time. Marie agreed.

Shortly after they had agreed to have their baby Marie moved with her children in to a property owned by her boyfriend. The house had a market value of about £1250pcm and as Marie didn't want to live with John at present he offered to let it to her for a reduced sum of £950pcm. She says she insisted on paying rent so that she had autonomy over parenting her children and her own space for her family.

A few months later the baby was born and Marie began claiming Universal Credit. She says at present she gets about £1500 every four weeks. She doesn't know how much is for housing.

Anyway, to cut a long story short, John has practically moved himself in. I've heard her say to him before that he's not permitted to stay over at her house because the DWP would come down on her. It's fallen on deaf ears and I think she's buried her head in the sand over the whole thing.

She showed me her online banking and she pays ALL of the bills and utilities and 70% of the food she estimates, but as John has now moved himself in she's reduced her rent payment to him to about £500 a month, occasionally paid in cash. Sometimes paid by bank transfer. But he will often send it back to her for some reason.

Now she's been asked to take part in a random entitlement check and has three problems.

1). Landlord is the father of her child, not allowed as far as we're aware.

2.) He's adamant about them being a 'family' and spending as much time with his son as possible, putting her in a position where she's breaking the law.

3). Having been asked to produce 3 months of bank statements there is virtually no record of rent paid there. Money often passes backwards and forwards between them in that John will lend her money but she showed me that she always pays it back.

Basically it all looks like what it is as far as I can see and it's not going to be good for her! Anyone know what will happen to her next?

OP posts:
WOMANDOWNN · 20/06/2024 12:32

What was the outcome OP? Cousin is panicking about similar

beefmassaman · 22/06/2024 11:19

WOMANDOWNN · 20/06/2024 12:32

What was the outcome OP? Cousin is panicking about similar

Hi
After submitting all of the requested docs and waiting on tenter hooks for the outcome she got a message on her journal saying thanks for providing the requested information and it had all been verified and that her claim would now continue as normal.
So basically it was a lot of stressing about nothing for her, but I'm not sure if she just got lucky really.

OP posts:
usernamealreadytaken · 24/06/2024 11:04

beefmassaman · 22/06/2024 11:19

Hi
After submitting all of the requested docs and waiting on tenter hooks for the outcome she got a message on her journal saying thanks for providing the requested information and it had all been verified and that her claim would now continue as normal.
So basically it was a lot of stressing about nothing for her, but I'm not sure if she just got lucky really.

Yeah, she "just got lucky" and can continue gaming the system and having taxpayers paying her live-in bf's mortgage. FFS 😡

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stuckonaname2 · 24/06/2024 11:08

@usernamealreadytaken Yep! Oh well....she's not the first and won't be the last.

listsandbudgets · 24/06/2024 11:23

usernamealreadytaken · 24/06/2024 11:04

Yeah, she "just got lucky" and can continue gaming the system and having taxpayers paying her live-in bf's mortgage. FFS 😡

With any luck someone will report her and she'll get properly investigated rather than briefly checked. I don't mind paying tax to support those that need help. I DO mind paying it to support scams like this... hope she has rectified the situation now since she knows it's wrong but I somehow doubt it..

Badbadbunny · 24/06/2024 11:28

beefmassaman · 22/06/2024 11:19

Hi
After submitting all of the requested docs and waiting on tenter hooks for the outcome she got a message on her journal saying thanks for providing the requested information and it had all been verified and that her claim would now continue as normal.
So basically it was a lot of stressing about nothing for her, but I'm not sure if she just got lucky really.

Did she actually tell the truth and make full disclosure? Has she now updated her claim to tell them about the bloke now living with her??

If not, she may have temporarily got away with it, but if they check again in the future, and the real truth comes on, she'll be in even more trouble for the dishonesty and concealment.

listsandbudgets · 24/06/2024 11:34

@WOMANDOWNN Hope you can persuade your cousin to tell the truth rather than continue to cheat the system

hanni1990 · 23/02/2026 13:36

How was your cousin

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