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Camilla if Charlie pegs it?

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Karensalright · 06/02/2024 18:54

sick of listening to a blow by blow account of the kings prostate and some other unknown area of his anatomy that is in bother.

But it did set me thinking about the OW, Camilla. Am sure Charlie will provide for her from his personal wealth in his will, but what on earth would we be expected to call her after Charlie’s death?

I mean we cannot call her the Queen mother like Queens Liz mother, she has no biological relationship with the royals at all.

In my experience adult step children grin and bear their parents new spouse but rarely stay in touch after the parents death. You only have to look on the posts here to know that.

It would, I suppose, be up to King Willy, could be a source of amusement for none royalist folk like me,

Listening to endless royal experts waffle on about it all when it happens.

I just a thought…

OP posts:
handfulofsugar · 06/02/2024 19:43

Just call her 'cami' it's cute

Karensalright · 06/02/2024 19:45

This was designed as an anti dote for myself and others who actually find the concept of the royal family and all the pearl clutching about their ins and outs as strange and frankly bizarre.

Yet the flag waving brigade show up to chastise me with hyperbolic nonsense.

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IlsSortLaPlupartAuNuitMostly · 06/02/2024 19:48

couiza · 06/02/2024 19:08

So will there be two queens, the dowager queen Camilla and queen Catherine?

That'll be interesting, and one queen will be the step MIL of the other.

It's going to costalot.

There were briefly three queens when ERII came on the throne. Mary, who was the mother in law of the Queen Mum, died shortly before the coronation. And then there were two Queen Elizabeths for another forty-odd years. We coped just fine.

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JaneJeffer · 06/02/2024 19:50

adult step children grin and bear their parents new spouse

Camilla if Charlie pegs it?
Farwell · 06/02/2024 19:50

Isthisexpected · 06/02/2024 19:32

Not sure how duration of marriage changes this?

The sainted first wife is dead, and was dead before Charles married Camilla. Once they were divorced, she ceased to be an OW.

She may have started as an OW. Hardly unusual in that. More unusual is that they married and have had a long and seemingly happy marriage. To keep referring to a second wife as an OW is in poor taste, regardless of whether that couple is King and Queen or your next door neighbours.

Enigma52 · 06/02/2024 19:52

Malarandras · 06/02/2024 19:30

Never heard the term ‘pegs it’ before and frankly I wish I hadn’t - it’s not very pleasant. Why can’t you just use the word ‘dies’? Death is not that scary that we can’t use the proper word for it surely?!

Agree with this completely.

MsJuniper · 06/02/2024 19:53

CreateHope · 06/02/2024 19:05

@TeenLifeMum of course presidency would be better - a system like they have in Ireland where we get to vote for our head of state is infinitely preferable to this bunch of no marks.

And PLEASE don’t respond “who wants president Blair!?!?” 🙄

Agree with this - presidency does not mean the US system.

Lifebeganat50 · 06/02/2024 19:54

couiza · 06/02/2024 19:08

So will there be two queens, the dowager queen Camilla and queen Catherine?

That'll be interesting, and one queen will be the step MIL of the other.

It's going to costalot.

We had 3 at one point, Queen Mary, QEQM amd Queeen Elizabeth. I don’t think it’s been that unusual historically, it’s just that Queen Elizabeth had such a long reign, there aren’t many previous monarchs in living memory now!

twnety · 06/02/2024 19:55

ownedbymydog · 06/02/2024 19:01

You have summed up, OP, the utter ridiculousness of this institution. Now Elizabeth has gone Surely it’s time for the ‘royal family’ to just gently expire? Not literally (best wishes to Charles and all that) just constitutionally.

Totally agree

What a waste of money

Honeychickpea · 06/02/2024 19:55

FancyBiscuitsLevel · 06/02/2024 19:29

To be fair @Honeychickpea - she was the OW before becoming the wife. (And also to be fair to Camilla, rumour has it she wasn’t the only OW.)

Surely multiple OWs reflects more badly on Charles than on Camilla?

I think she will probably be styled The Dowager Duchess of Cornwall.

Saschka · 06/02/2024 19:55

MrsDanversGlidesAgain · 06/02/2024 19:03

Queen Elizabeth the Queen Mother only used that style to avoid confusion with her daughter

And because QEQM didn't want the title Dowager.

Edited

Wasn’t Queen Mary still alive as well to start with? And she was already Dowager Queen.

Blueroses99 · 06/02/2024 19:56

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 19:40

The Queen mother is an old title that’s just been rarely used. Mary and Alexandra could have used it as well but didn’t see the need.

Camilla couldn’t be QM as she’s wouldn’t be the mother of the monarch. You have to be “Dowager Queen, Mother of the current monarch” to use that title (that’s also why the mother of a King would be QM as well)

Margaret Beaufort was known as “My Lady the King's Mother”. I suppose they wouldn’t use “Queen” in the title unless the person had been a Queen consort already.

I expect we will have Queen Camilla and Queen Catherine at the same time, I don’t think Dowager will be used and I think they will avoid anything with “mother” in the title as it’s obviously inaccurate.

YourWinter · 06/02/2024 19:56

What a nasty OP. Given how rude you are about people you don’t know, I imagine you’re equally rude about people you do know. Are you equally rude to their faces, or are you just the spiteful type who’s always quick to come out with some petty and unkind comment?

sprigatito · 06/02/2024 19:57

@Farwell there's always going to be a sizeable proportion of people who think adultery and cheating is scummy behaviour. If you know that about someone, it informs your view of their character. And the whole world knows it about C&C 🤷🏻‍♀️

Honeychickpea · 06/02/2024 19:59

sprigatito · 06/02/2024 19:57

@Farwell there's always going to be a sizeable proportion of people who think adultery and cheating is scummy behaviour. If you know that about someone, it informs your view of their character. And the whole world knows it about C&C 🤷🏻‍♀️

No doubt, but the vast majority of those people are not in the upper class who have condoned such behavior for time immemorial.

ssd · 06/02/2024 20:02

I'm bloody sick about hearing about him too op

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 20:02

Blueroses99 · 06/02/2024 19:56

Margaret Beaufort was known as “My Lady the King's Mother”. I suppose they wouldn’t use “Queen” in the title unless the person had been a Queen consort already.

I expect we will have Queen Camilla and Queen Catherine at the same time, I don’t think Dowager will be used and I think they will avoid anything with “mother” in the title as it’s obviously inaccurate.

Yes, the Queen part of the QM title is from their Queen title.

We’ll have HM Queen Camilla and HM The Queen, with Queen Catherine being used as well.

Dowager is avoided as much as possible. QEII even allowed her Aunts to go by Princess Marina and Princess Alice rather than being Dowager Duchesses. Dowager is definitely not a popular title!

Karensalright · 06/02/2024 20:02

For those who only speak Kings english, “Peg it” is a brummie reference to dying and was commonly used phrase by my grandparents, they would say for example “when I peg it” or “i hope she does not peg it”

Us plebs have lots of words which are exclusive to us.

OP posts:
Maireas · 06/02/2024 20:02

Honeychickpea · 06/02/2024 19:55

Surely multiple OWs reflects more badly on Charles than on Camilla?

I think she will probably be styled The Dowager Duchess of Cornwall.

She won't. She's Queen Camilla. That's it.
There can be a Queen Camilla and a Queen Catherine, just as there was a Queen Mary and a Queen Elizabeth.

FrancisSeaton · 06/02/2024 20:03

She hasn't been 'the other woman' for donkeys years
Diana was more the other woman

FrancisSeaton · 06/02/2024 20:04

Shinyandnew1 · 06/02/2024 19:01

I think the Queen mother was called, Elizabeth the Queen mother, to distinguish her from Elizabeth, the Queen. Queen Mary was also the Queen mother, even though she was mother of the king.

Camilla would prob be referred to as Queen Camilla.

She was called the queen mother as she was mother to a reining queen

YetMoreNewBeginnings · 06/02/2024 20:04

Honeychickpea · 06/02/2024 19:55

Surely multiple OWs reflects more badly on Charles than on Camilla?

I think she will probably be styled The Dowager Duchess of Cornwall.

She would only have been Dowager Duchess of Cornwall if Charles had died before being King.

Shes no longer the Duchess of Cornwall so she can’t be the Dowager Duchess.

She’ll be HM Queen Camilla.

Karensalright · 06/02/2024 20:05

YourWinter · 06/02/2024 19:56

What a nasty OP. Given how rude you are about people you don’t know, I imagine you’re equally rude about people you do know. Are you equally rude to their faces, or are you just the spiteful type who’s always quick to come out with some petty and unkind comment?

Ha Ha just wiping your spit of my face. Your post says everything about you and nothing about me. Keep it civil please

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ClaudiaWrinklemum · 06/02/2024 20:06

DSQM?

TraitorsGate · 06/02/2024 20:06

sprigatito · 06/02/2024 19:02

God @MNHQ can't we start moving all this shit into the Royals section?

Or the delete dustbin