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Acid attack in Clapham

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PawsAndReflection · 31/01/2024 23:06

Has anyone else seen this horrible news story? Apparently 9 people have been injured, looks like the original targets were a woman and two children.

What is WRONG with people?!

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Denimdenimdenim · 01/02/2024 12:03

Absolutely awful. Such a horrible thing for someone to do.

Cantalever · 01/02/2024 12:04

What the F is wrong with MEN? I am beginning to agree with the psychologist (a man) who believes all men are mentally ill (not an excuse) because of the effects of patriarchy and their detachment from producing life itself. There is something very very sick about men's cultural entitlement to privilege combined with testosterone = potential or actual violence. What happens to their humanity or any moral compass?

Northernsouloldies · 01/02/2024 12:06

I'm not keen on the term, a domestic I feel sometimes it's used in a way that explains away serious incidents. In terms of violence using acid is 0.to a 100 this guy will have subjected this woman and children to horrific abuse behind closed doors because you suddenly arrive at the point of an acid attack instantly.

Northernsouloldies · 01/02/2024 12:07

Don't arrive.

MCOut · 01/02/2024 12:10

It’s heartbreaking to think about what kind of violence the woman and children involved had already been put through. With the public nature of this I’m assuming it’s an escalation. I’m wondering why they haven’t released his picture and name so the public can assist.

Soupsetscared · 01/02/2024 12:15

Pity the attacker when captured can't be locked in a cage and
we throw acid at them.
What sort of person carries any substance to scar someone.
And then slams a child onto the ground not once but twice.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 12:23

Very scary how “people” think this is ok to do, I don’t think it’s always men doing them though, I think I remember a case in Europe where a woman threw acid on an ex-bf and I believe he went through with euthanasia because of the injuries he sustained 😕

thebestinterest · 01/02/2024 12:24

😡😡😡😡😡😡

those poor people!!!

ThreeImaginaryBoys · 01/02/2024 12:27

tempnameforadvice · 01/02/2024 11:14

@Supersimkin2 are you high? Murder Mile? You clearly haven't been to Clapham. Especially Clapham South.

Quite. Something to do with those meth bags, possibly.

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 12:28

I do think anyone committing these crimes should be put in prison for life, they seem to be happening far too often.

beastlyslumber · 01/02/2024 12:29

Five police officers and three women were also taken to hospital with minor injuries - the women were passersby who stepped in to try to help. How unbelievably brave.

A local MP described it as an incident in a "feud" - I'm sorry, but no. The children who were attacked where not involved in a "feud" and I highly doubt their mother was, either. I appreciate we don't have the full details yet, but what a crappy word to use.

TinkerTiger · 01/02/2024 12:35

Cantalever · 01/02/2024 12:04

What the F is wrong with MEN? I am beginning to agree with the psychologist (a man) who believes all men are mentally ill (not an excuse) because of the effects of patriarchy and their detachment from producing life itself. There is something very very sick about men's cultural entitlement to privilege combined with testosterone = potential or actual violence. What happens to their humanity or any moral compass?

I agree, but I expect someone will be along (if they haven't already) to tell you about a woman somewhere who did somthing once.

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HereForTheFreeLunch · 01/02/2024 12:38

Marchintospring · 31/01/2024 23:31

When you say “people” it’s 9 out of 10 times a man responsible.
We really need to use the right words if we want to tackle this.

Edited

Entitled is missed out too. It's usually entitled, arrogant men.
(Sure NAMALT 🙄)

Boke · 01/02/2024 12:38

TinkerTiger · 01/02/2024 12:35

I agree, but I expect someone will be along (if they haven't already) to tell you about a woman somewhere who did somthing once.

Oh yes, they've already been along.

EasternStandard · 01/02/2024 12:39

Angrycat2768 · 01/02/2024 08:45

I think he's been arrested

Has this happened?

If not hopefully asap

Sureaseggs44 · 01/02/2024 12:43

Cazpar · 31/01/2024 23:19

I doubt it was random. I suspect it's possibly gang related.

A traffic collision (attack happened after an accident) where police are already present and get caught up in the incident, and where the perp is already carrying acid (who carries acid randomly?) and doesn't care about the police? Pretty unlikely it's random. Not impossible, but not probable.

The injured are women and children passer by who tried to help and police

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 12:43

TinkerTiger · 01/02/2024 12:35

I agree, but I expect someone will be along (if they haven't already) to tell you about a woman somewhere who did somthing once.

Admittedly it does seem to often be men, but I don’t think it helps to label this simply as a man issue, this case was horrible:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44159192.amp

I believe there was another case where a jealous friend did this to another woman as well. Clearly there is something where certain “people” think this is ok to do and such actions carry very little consequence and it must stop!

Mark van Dongen and Berlinah Wallace

Ex-girlfriend cleared of acid murder - BBC News

Berlinah Wallace was convicted of throwing the acid at her ex-partner but found not guilty of murder.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44159192.amp

Sureaseggs44 · 01/02/2024 12:44

beastlyslumber · 01/02/2024 12:29

Five police officers and three women were also taken to hospital with minor injuries - the women were passersby who stepped in to try to help. How unbelievably brave.

A local MP described it as an incident in a "feud" - I'm sorry, but no. The children who were attacked where not involved in a "feud" and I highly doubt their mother was, either. I appreciate we don't have the full details yet, but what a crappy word to use.

I think because they were arguing before the attack apparently.

TinkerTiger · 01/02/2024 12:46

Blah12345678999 · 01/02/2024 12:43

Admittedly it does seem to often be men, but I don’t think it helps to label this simply as a man issue, this case was horrible:

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-44159192.amp

I believe there was another case where a jealous friend did this to another woman as well. Clearly there is something where certain “people” think this is ok to do and such actions carry very little consequence and it must stop!

Edited

BINGO!

WestwardHo1 · 01/02/2024 12:47

Cantalever · 01/02/2024 12:04

What the F is wrong with MEN? I am beginning to agree with the psychologist (a man) who believes all men are mentally ill (not an excuse) because of the effects of patriarchy and their detachment from producing life itself. There is something very very sick about men's cultural entitlement to privilege combined with testosterone = potential or actual violence. What happens to their humanity or any moral compass?

Good post.

And I am so fed up of seeing quotes from police saying such things are isolated incidents, when there are very clear patterns which no one will acknowledge.

Efacsen · 01/02/2024 12:48

@EasternStandard not arrested yet

WestwardHo1 · 01/02/2024 12:51

And I imagine (total speculation etc etc) that it was a partner or ex partner who was jealous because "his" woman had either moved on or was about to, so he thought he would ruin her looks and spoil it for her. Children? Meh. Unfortunately they were with her at the time. Never mind.

HunterBidensBurnerPhone · 01/02/2024 12:52

ThePoshUns · 01/02/2024 08:33

My initial thought is it will be a domestic incident, sadly.

Almost certainly this will be a partner or ex-partner of the woman. I imagine there will be a long history of DV and coercive control. Lots of missed opportunities for intervention because of the police not understanding coercive control. Lots of hand wringing about 'lessons to be learned' (spoiler alert: they will not be learned). Until it happens to another woman three/four days later.

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